Read this thread and ACT on it...or continue to surrender your sledding rights
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Sent my letter but don't have my hopes up. Maybe this is why poo didn't give the mountain guys anything new. I was thinking someone said I could whine after my letter was sent.
Done! It is always good to support and step up with positive comments to protect our recreational life style.
if you sent a letter then whine away, if that makes you feel better.
get a friend to send a letter then you can whine together
I do have some hope that this will help to keep sledding areas open.
as far as ever seeing wheeled motorized areas open again that I think is a lost cause.
thank you to all that have sent letters and shared this with others
get a friend to send a letter then you can whine together
I do have some hope that this will help to keep sledding areas open.
as far as ever seeing wheeled motorized areas open again that I think is a lost cause.
thank you to all that have sent letters and shared this with others
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rmscustom
Well-known member
That's just it, very few seem to care. They're way to busy trying to decide which can is the best and making sure you know their brand of snowmobile is hands down the only one to buy meanwhile in a few years they wont have any place to ride it. I hope I'm wrong but I truly believe it's when and not if that will happen
When the Great Burn comment thread was posted here it got very little views so I PMed administration to see if maybe a mass email could be sent out. Didn't even get a reply. So I put it in the Pro section under "New Polaris 800 blew up" and it got 4x the views in a hour vs what it got here in 10 days then understandably so the title got changed and MH even made it into a sticky but it got very few views after that
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volcano buster
Well-known member
"Easy"
Done.
Done.
840 views on this thread and only at 140ish letters sent in
the 140 letters are from all over the country and from clubs and members of other forums so that means the response from snowest members is pathetic at best
when areas get closed and you wonder why ,,,, think did I do anything to try to help
the 140 letters are from all over the country and from clubs and members of other forums so that means the response from snowest members is pathetic at best
when areas get closed and you wonder why ,,,, think did I do anything to try to help
Done. To those that think they're not listening--I once received a personal call from my state's US representative to discuss my thoughts on the Hidden Gems deal a few years back in Colorado. So please, write something! Doesn't have to be extensive, though a well written piece will make an impact.
260 comments received now.
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June 27
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Subject: over the snow vehicle travel rule
I have been in contact with Sandra Mitchell, ISSA, the past couple of days and we concur that we should support the new over snow travel proposed rule. That's right....support it!!!
At the end of the day the proposed rule pretty much keeps things as they are. Decisions for snowmobile travel will remain at the local level rather than planning at regional or national levels. ISSA is meeting on July 15 to go through the proposed rule with a fine tooth comb and develop some comments to use. The closing date for comments is in early Aug so we will have a short window to comment.
Being that things have really not changed, why bother commenting? The environmental groups will be going full press to overwhelm the FS with comments to ammend the rule to satisfy their position. In addition they will use their comment numbers to support any potential lawsuit. There were 116 comments filed as of yesterday. We need to comment heavily to counter those efforts. If we don't respond the FS could assume we don't care. We could start commenting today but I think we are better served to wait to see what ISSA comes up with so we send a unified message. Keep in mind Winter Wildlands Alliance, who filed the lawsuit that prompted this rule, wants snowmobiles confined to trails...period. There are a lot of environmental groups that support that thinking.
Members in the midwest and east States, please forward this to your clubs and friends as this proposed rule applies Nationwide..
Here is the direct link to the website where you can read the rule, and also comment:
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-by-over-snow-vehicles-travel-management-rule
I'll send comment talking points after the ISSA meeting. Feel free to contact me with any concern
June 27
.
Subject: over the snow vehicle travel rule
I have been in contact with Sandra Mitchell, ISSA, the past couple of days and we concur that we should support the new over snow travel proposed rule. That's right....support it!!!
At the end of the day the proposed rule pretty much keeps things as they are. Decisions for snowmobile travel will remain at the local level rather than planning at regional or national levels. ISSA is meeting on July 15 to go through the proposed rule with a fine tooth comb and develop some comments to use. The closing date for comments is in early Aug so we will have a short window to comment.
Being that things have really not changed, why bother commenting? The environmental groups will be going full press to overwhelm the FS with comments to ammend the rule to satisfy their position. In addition they will use their comment numbers to support any potential lawsuit. There were 116 comments filed as of yesterday. We need to comment heavily to counter those efforts. If we don't respond the FS could assume we don't care. We could start commenting today but I think we are better served to wait to see what ISSA comes up with so we send a unified message. Keep in mind Winter Wildlands Alliance, who filed the lawsuit that prompted this rule, wants snowmobiles confined to trails...period. There are a lot of environmental groups that support that thinking.
Members in the midwest and east States, please forward this to your clubs and friends as this proposed rule applies Nationwide..
Here is the direct link to the website where you can read the rule, and also comment:
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-by-over-snow-vehicles-travel-management-rule
I'll send comment talking points after the ISSA meeting. Feel free to contact me with any concern
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if you read the attachment I posted above from the sled patriot site.
the greenies posted 116 comments in ONE DAY!!
and we wonder why were loosing the battles\
come ON SNOWEST send out a mass email to all members
put a big add on the page DO YOUR PART SNOWEST
the greenies posted 116 comments in ONE DAY!!
and we wonder why were loosing the battles\
come ON SNOWEST send out a mass email to all members
put a big add on the page DO YOUR PART SNOWEST
I have been asked to send out a forum wide PM and try to bring as much attention to this thread as possible.
Given the subject matter I am willing to do that.
BUT...
#1.
Timing will be SUPER important.
We need to choose the single most opportune time to draw in all of the snowest members to have the biggest and best possible impact.
#2.
We get notoriously LOW support for requests like this because most of the sledders do NOT think it will effect THEIR BACK YARD.
This is where the Tree Huggers beat us.
They have a strong unified front, and we are terribly fractured.
For this to garner any strong show of support, in the MIDDLE OF SUMMER, the threat needs to be seen as a real possibility to each of the riders where they live!
Given the subject matter I am willing to do that.
BUT...
#1.
Timing will be SUPER important.
We need to choose the single most opportune time to draw in all of the snowest members to have the biggest and best possible impact.
#2.
We get notoriously LOW support for requests like this because most of the sledders do NOT think it will effect THEIR BACK YARD.
This is where the Tree Huggers beat us.
They have a strong unified front, and we are terribly fractured.
For this to garner any strong show of support, in the MIDDLE OF SUMMER, the threat needs to be seen as a real possibility to each of the riders where they live!
help us put something together . Snowest magazine has some great writers.
For that matter lets send out a letter to all magazine subscriber's as well.
If Snowest, the different brands , vendors that sell there goods on here etc.
all show that they believe in this and we should to it just might help.
They are listening so we NEED to be heard now..
Christopher THANK YOU!!!
For that matter lets send out a letter to all magazine subscriber's as well.
If Snowest, the different brands , vendors that sell there goods on here etc.
all show that they believe in this and we should to it just might help.
They are listening so we NEED to be heard now..
Christopher THANK YOU!!!
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