Pot Legal in your State???

[ruffryder]

I didn't get this...

I had a typo. I meant to say that for most people, their job requirement and current testing methods would not allow them to partake. Though, I guess it makes sense using the word legal as well, for the points you mentioned below.

Originally Posted by ruffryder
that would be correct. I think for most people, the legalization would be of legal (little) consequence as their jobs would still stipulate approved behavior.

As to the rest, I agree 100%. Maybe they need a new testing method. Might be a money making opportunity there. Anyone need a test subject? lol

 

[m8magicandmystery]

well i noticed the advocate of this thread capitalized hemp and left God in small letters when stating God gave the seed...well He also gave us a brain..which interesting enough seems to evaporate when mixed with hemp..you can tell a stoner a mile away...your kidding yourself if you don;t see it..

 

[ruffryder]

well i noticed the advocate of this thread capitalized hemp and left God in small letters when stating God gave the seed...well He also gave us a brain..which interesting enough seems to evaporate when mixed with hemp..you can tell a stoner a mile away...your kidding yourself if you don;t see it..

ha ha... How is it going huckleberry?

Ever thought that capitalization was a method to emphasize specific words? Do you know the difference between god and God?

 

[tudizzle]

I guess I should've elaborated. One of the possible ramifications I see with weed and jobs is this: Can an employer be allowed legally to fire someone that has done something legal on their own time? I'm talking about the weekend guy that smokes a bowl but goes to work and fails a drug test. Should the employer be able to fire that person?

This is where the trial lawyers are going to have a feast.

With alcohol, it's very apparent when a guy comes to work drunk, so this is a no brainer for required action. I've seen my boss actually drive a drunk employee in his own truck to treatment. This brought a lot of wow's to the workplace. But it's impossible with the current drug tests to determine if an accused employee is using pot during his own time or on the clock. As a former user, I could tell if someone is high, but I couldn't prove it.

As it stands now, an employer can terminate if he so wishes an employee who tests positive for marijuana, it's illegal; easy call and impossible to agrue against.

Now take a person who smokes on his own time once it's legal...should an employer be able to fire someone for a positive U/A? Firing someone when they didn't break the law?

I'm just saying this is the only issue I could see arising from legalization. Believe me, I believe legalization is the best way to fight this. As was stated earlier, as a high school student 85-89, it was by far easier to score a bag than it was to get alcohol. People against legalization should ask why/how could this be?

In a recent poll on NBC, the numbers for legal were like 33% and medical use 75%...the numbers get higher every year. Unfortunately, it is the older generation (the purists) that are not for legalization.




I didn't get this...

not sure if this helps...but I had a friend who was on state U/A for alcohol and drugs due to DUI's mixed with posession. Once he got his medical card it was legal for him to partake and they could no longer test for Marijuana.

No drug, even prescription big brother pills, are legal to use and operate a vehicle........period.

 

[tukernater]

well i noticed the advocate of this thread capitalized hemp and left God in small letters when stating God gave the seed...well He also gave us a brain..which interesting enough seems to evaporate when mixed with hemp..you can tell a stoner a mile away...your kidding yourself if you don;t see it..

hmmm not sure about the mile away thing but its shocking when you see who really does smoke POT ,50% admit to smoking it and 40% lie about it.

 

[kane13]

I have smoked this stuff for years and it seems over time it has become less and less, now in my early 40's. I agree no one should operate a vehicle or work while smoking or do anything that requires your full attention, with that being said if you are sitting at home watching a movie or out camping, hanging with bud's, whatever, it shouldn't be a crime. I think B.C. does it right they are a little more relaxed when it comes to your average smoker but they go after the big grow-ops, i think that is the way to go but it wouldn't make to much sence to legalize it and have the Government growing it for us in some way shape or form that would just be a tax grab, unless they busted all the growers and there was no supply, but that won't happen. Honestly if you are of age you should have the freedom to smoke and even grow small amounts and it should be tolerated by law, but it has no place in our workplace, schools, roads, or anywhere you could put others lives in danger, PERIOD... As a sidenote alchohol as far as i am concerned has led to the use of harder drugs in most people, growing up when i was younger we always used to drink and do hard drugs and mostly at party's now that i am older there is no hard drugs and limited drinking, but i do still smoke in the comforts of my own home and i am glad my Government doesn't really consider this a crime and won't come banging down my door looking for a joint that would just be a waste of taxpayers money as far as i am concerned.

 

[NapaMatt]

In all reality... i bet it is about 75% of people Smoke Weed!

 

[diamonddave]

As ericbigbore can attest to, I don't smoke.

 

[diamonddave]

not sure if this helps...but I had a friend who was on state U/A for alcohol and drugs due to DUI's mixed with posession. Once he got his medical card it was legal for him to partake and they could no longer test for Marijuana.

No drug, even prescription big brother pills, are legal to use and operate a vehicle........period.

I don't think ANYONE is advocating driving and using...

 

[m8magicandmystery]

ha ha... How is it going huckleberry?

huckleberry..???..lol..if im huckleberry you are winnies pooh...mobys dick...gohmers pile and forests dump

 

[snowmobiler]

your brain on drugs

 

[ruffryder]

huckleberry..???..lol..if im huckleberry you are winnies pooh...mobys dick...gohmers pile and forests dump

I have to ask, how long did it take for you to think this one up? Or were you saving it? It is a good one though...

 

[03rmking]

Legalize it, tax it and lower my income taxes.

 

[NapaMatt]

Legalize it, tax it and lower my income taxes.


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[NapaMatt]

TTT

 

[mulestar]

I say legalize it. If you have ever been around people that are high they are never angry, mean, or combative, they are usually giggling or staring at the floor, either way they are not hurting anyone or themselves. Alcohol does all of those things, to some of the nicest people, turns them directly into ***holes.

I think it would be an entirely new source of income for the US, instead of Mexicans getting that money, it would come to us, with all of the other benefits.

DOT and Jobs? I say treat it as you would someone who has been drinking. If there is a certain percentage in your body you are considered high, and you pay the consequences for being high on the job. This is only if they legalize it for leisure, not for medicinal, for now you should be desk bound just like a prescription.

I can count on one hand how many times I smoked, I am a law abiding citizen and I haven't touched it since college. Besides that I am a pipeline operator and under DOT regulations, so random drug tests for me. I still believe it should be legalized and I plan on smoking a big fat one if they do!

 

[NapaMatt]

TTT

 

[MTm7]

only in america are we free to have ideas and opinions but yet we are arrogant enough to think that we are equally free from the CONSEQUENCES of ideas/opinions(fill in the blank). time has an irrevocable way of fleshing this out...we shall see what the ramifications are in a generation. i suspect that it will turn out to be one more brick(several) that paves that road to serfdom/slavery.

some of you gentleman's arguments are valid on the peripheral but lacks real discernment imo. for me, arguing the merits of weed over and above alcohol etc is pointless. better is always the enemy of the best. my only question is what is virtuous about smoking weed and the corollary culture that follows it? although that question to would probably end up in the pluralistic scrape heap. what is considered today to be virtuous is nothing more than a pilgrimage into existentialism. just some musings of mine!

 

[ruffryder]

Why does it have to be virtuous to make it legal. Why not just a complete waste of resources trying to make it illegal?

IMO that is the biggest argument there is, that the war on drugs is a complete failure. That the money we spend on it does NOTHING to stop the usage of drugs.

Isn't this enough? To people really have to think that it is cool in order to get it decriminalized? Why is it never that it is the smart move?

 

[MTm7]

Why does it have to be virtuous to make it legal. Why not just a complete waste of resources trying to make it illegal?

IMO that is the biggest argument there is, that the war on drugs is a complete failure. That the money we spend on it does NOTHING to stop the usage of drugs.

Isn't this enough? To people really have to think that it is cool in order to get it decriminalized? Why is it never that it is the smart move?

it doesnt ruffy...you missed the point it seems. legalize it by all means if that is all(the spending of money) that is at stake.