I'm speaking for alot of us here. Double parking at green rock is a great way to get your tires shot! So don't do it. This has been going on for a few years, knock it off or go somewhere else!
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JohnnyH
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This should be put in the gereral section because every place I have ever been this happens.
The best time was when the owner of the truck who got boxed in had a snocat at his cabin. It was a quick fix on his part. . . . . ha ha.
Bottom line Dont park like you own the place.
The best time was when the owner of the truck who got boxed in had a snocat at his cabin. It was a quick fix on his part. . . . . ha ha.
Bottom line Dont park like you own the place.
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sleddinhusker
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And that goes for parking on the south side the highway before the gate up next to the guard rail and down. Its just irks the hell out me. The state needs to ticket those morons. It gets so narrow that the snow plow cant even get through. No wonder the plows don't do a good job up there, I would say piss on the sledders also if I had to put up with that crap. Either get your butts up in the morning, or drive another 100yds down the hill and park on the north side like everyone else. Not rocket science!!!!! Maybe I'm out of line here, but a smart person would only park on the north side.
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That's why I'm on the mountain no later than 6:00 am, and I'm heading down the mountain around the 1:00 pm mark. Take down the license plate #, post it here, and then we can all watch for em and make sure they know how we all feel about their parking. I would like to know who learned how to park in the Albany parking lot lately. Last time I parked there to take a ride, there were people parking correctly on the right side, but then parked the same direction on the left side, which just led to 2 way traffic coming in and going out! What a mess! That lot just isn't big enough for that! But again, I was leaving way before the mess got out of hand. There are benefits to living only 30 miles from the mountain.......
growing old is mandatory, growing up in optional.....
That's why I'm on the mountain no later than 6:00 am, and I'm heading down the mountain around the 1:00 pm mark. Take down the license plate #, post it here, and then we can all watch for em and make sure they know how we all feel about their parking. I would like to know who learned how to park in the Albany parking lot lately. Last time I parked there to take a ride, there were people parking correctly on the right side, but then parked the same direction on the left side, which just led to 2 way traffic coming in and going out! What a mess! That lot just isn't big enough for that! But again, I was leaving way before the mess got out of hand. There are benefits to living only 30 miles from the mountain.......
growing old is mandatory, growing up in optional.....
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and it seems to get worse. i am totally amazed how people park and how close they have to get just to get out of a $5 parking fee. most don't know that driving a snowmobile down the middle of the highway is illegle too. i would like to see the forest service, albany county sherriffs office, and the wyoming highway department get some proactive energy and start ticketing. idiots spoil it for everyone else.
and it seems to get worse. i am totally amazed how people park and how close they have to get just to get out of a $5 parking fee. most don't know that driving a snowmobile down the middle of the highway is illegle too. i would like to see the forest service, albany county sherriffs office, and the wyoming highway department get some proactive energy and start ticketing. idiots spoil it for everyone else.
OK...help a newbie out here. I'm not sure exactly where "Greenrock" is...
This Saturday afternoon I'll be arriving to stay an entire week at the Mountain Meadow Cabins. I've been to the Snowies, but have never parked on that side of the hill before. Just a small group with one truck and trailer. My understanding from briefly speaking with the guy who runs Mountain Meadows is that I basically drive up the mountain until I get to the Snowy Mountain Lodge, park right in that area as the road isn't plowed any further, and then ride sleds to the cabin from there. He says I don't need any permit or fee. Does any of that make sense to you guys?
Is this the area considered Greenrock? Or is Greenrock elsewhere in that area. If that's not Greenrock, could those of you who are familiar with the area please tell me what to expect and draw me a mental picture? As I'll be arriving mid afternoon on a Saturday I'm expecting a bit of a zoo, and certainly don't want to tick anyone off or end up in the wrong place. Obviously I won't be stupid enough to double-park...
Thoughts? Thanks in advance. I'm sure I will clarify with the Mountain Meadows guy when I get there and show him my rig. But advance expectations being set are always helpful to keep me in line.
This Saturday afternoon I'll be arriving to stay an entire week at the Mountain Meadow Cabins. I've been to the Snowies, but have never parked on that side of the hill before. Just a small group with one truck and trailer. My understanding from briefly speaking with the guy who runs Mountain Meadows is that I basically drive up the mountain until I get to the Snowy Mountain Lodge, park right in that area as the road isn't plowed any further, and then ride sleds to the cabin from there. He says I don't need any permit or fee. Does any of that make sense to you guys?
Is this the area considered Greenrock? Or is Greenrock elsewhere in that area. If that's not Greenrock, could those of you who are familiar with the area please tell me what to expect and draw me a mental picture? As I'll be arriving mid afternoon on a Saturday I'm expecting a bit of a zoo, and certainly don't want to tick anyone off or end up in the wrong place. Obviously I won't be stupid enough to double-park...
Thoughts? Thanks in advance. I'm sure I will clarify with the Mountain Meadows guy when I get there and show him my rig. But advance expectations being set are always helpful to keep me in line.
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and it seems to get worse. i am totally amazed how people park and how close they have to get just to get out of a $5 parking fee. most don't know that driving a snowmobile down the middle of the highway is illegle too. i would like to see the forest service, albany county sherriffs office, and the wyoming highway department get some proactive energy and start ticketing. idiots spoil it for everyone else.
I, for one, would NOT like to see the law enforcement pulled into this. WE can police ourselves, and make it work between us. Educate those who are doing it incorrectly......the LAST thing we need is "proactive energy" from law enforcement. That's just bad publicity for our sport.
I have experienced the same up at the snowies....people parking where ever the F they want to. As was stated eariler, get your a$$ up there earlier or go find somewhere else to park!! I have on record, pics of license plates and rigs from people that have parked DIRECTLY behind my trailer with no room to move ahead to load my sleds back up. This is how people get there stuff messed up. I have refrained from posting said pictures on this site and others, but may be forced to do so in the future, as this just seems to be getting worse.
Use some common sense, and have respect for other people....period
P.S both times were nebraska plates
Use some common sense, and have respect for other people....period
P.S both times were nebraska plates
OK...help a newbie out here. I'm not sure exactly where "Greenrock" is...
This Saturday afternoon I'll be arriving to stay an entire week at the Mountain Meadow Cabins. I've been to the Snowies, but have never parked on that side of the hill before. Just a small group with one truck and trailer. My understanding from briefly speaking with the guy who runs Mountain Meadows is that I basically drive up the mountain until I get to the Snowy Mountain Lodge, park right in that area as the road isn't plowed any further, and then ride sleds to the cabin from there. He says I don't need any permit or fee. Does any of that make sense to you guys?
Is this the area considered Greenrock? Or is Greenrock elsewhere in that area. If that's not Greenrock, could those of you who are familiar with the area please tell me what to expect and draw me a mental picture? As I'll be arriving mid afternoon on a Saturday I'm expecting a bit of a zoo, and certainly don't want to tick anyone off or end up in the wrong place. Obviously I won't be stupid enough to double-park...
Thoughts? Thanks in advance. I'm sure I will clarify with the Mountain Meadows guy when I get there and show him my rig. But advance expectations being set are always helpful to keep me in line.
You will drive through the Green Rock Parking area to get to the Snowy Mountain Lodge. Turning around at the Lodge can be a challenge. If you are not arriving until Saturday afternoon, you may want to just park down in the Green Rock area to start with. When you check in at the cabins, Chris will help you with any gear that you need hauled. If you can wait until around 4:30 or 5:00, the area near the Lodge should start to clear out. If you have to park down the hill aways, don't worry, it will clear out later and you'll be able to move closer.
I can agree, but "WE" is too much of a general term. The agencies are somewhat behind in dealing with the influx of snowmobiliers in this area. What used to be dozens are now hundreds. They DO NOT have the funds to deal with this as the Trails funding is going almost entirely to grooming and the Forest Service has just started charging for the designated lots. They are talking about building a new lot around the Green Rocks area. But unfortunately, the term "WE can police ourselves" is nice to hear and wants one to believe in it, but safety is going to drive this one and if WE can police ourselves, this thread would not have been even written.
I live in this area and every person that heads up the mountain passes through private property between the parking lot and the Forest Boundary. There is a greater number of people who have never been here and thus uneducated in what ever process there is, and many have spent a great deal of money to get here and chose to do what is convenient for them (but cringe at a $5 parking fee). When these people block my driveway, park on my property, tresspass on my lands, while I dodge 60 mph riders on a public highway, I would have no choice but to involve Law enforcement agencies. And many feel that the Forest is just as much theirs as it is mine (AND THEY ARE RIGHT). However, no amount of money they spend on theirselves or our "economy" gives them the right to abuse my property or make this public area unsafe or inconvenient for many.
So I really wish to believe as you do, but the massive impact without little regulations on how to deal with it is coming to light in the Snowy Range. But I agree that posting pictures on this site with license numbers would go a long ways towards those who are not on the educated side of things. I even noticed that someone left their trailer darn near in the middle the highway at Albany Lodge, removed the plates, and either bounced back and forth along the range or just left it for a week until they returned from home. Wow, what a DENSE attitude of those guys. It would be really be great to have the Sheriff impound their "abandoned vehicle" because that was truly what it was.
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While I see this on a trip by trip basis, you see it daily. I understand your frustration, and I think this thread was created in an attempt to in fact police it ourselves. More government is rarely the correct answer. As to those idiots that prove no respect for others, educate them. If they don't listen, find ways to get their attention (SAFELY!). As for the trailer, well, I would have hooked onto it and driven it somewhere in town where it would have become the sheriff's problem.....or maybe buried it in a snow drift....turned it upside down and buried it....I dunno, something cruel to show my distaste for what they did...
VERY helpful! Thank you.
Kinda thought I might like to do that as well.
Anybody that's been around since the 70's has seen the good and bad. I went through it with motorcycles, Then with four-wheel drive trucks and jeeps. Then believe it or not Mountain bikes. Backcountry snowboarding. And now 4 years ago I get into backcountry sledding. At the start of all these activities it was the hard core and people who had respect for others. There was room for all of us. I'm fairly new to snowmobiling, but I've ridden motorcycles for 35 years and mountain bikes for 25 years.
When you hand the decisions over to people who would rather take our freedoms away, we never come out ahead. Look what happened up north of Bozeman MT., I was out there two years ago. Local folks having a great time on their duct tape sleds. I go back there this year, closed, except a few tree huggers standing around. I've seen how much the Snowy Mt. area has changed in the last 4 years.
It seems to me that local business (gas stations, Lodges, Sled dealers and sled manufacturers) that make a buck off the sledders could throw down along with the riders. If my business needs 100 parking spaces, I sure as heck would expand my parking.
The problem seems to be about the parking. Not about the wide open spaces away from the lot. Heck, I like to travel all over out west, I pull into lots I've never been in. If somebody is around, I ask what works best there. I'm not out there to be a jacka##. If I have to pull my truck ahead to load, it 's not going to screw up my day. If some dude had a big lot on his property to park in and wanted 5 bucks, I'm there. A dude could make a few bucks.
Man I'm all out breath after this. I'm going to get a beer, there's smoke coming outa my ears. I musta burned up a pesky brain cell.
When you hand the decisions over to people who would rather take our freedoms away, we never come out ahead. Look what happened up north of Bozeman MT., I was out there two years ago. Local folks having a great time on their duct tape sleds. I go back there this year, closed, except a few tree huggers standing around. I've seen how much the Snowy Mt. area has changed in the last 4 years.
It seems to me that local business (gas stations, Lodges, Sled dealers and sled manufacturers) that make a buck off the sledders could throw down along with the riders. If my business needs 100 parking spaces, I sure as heck would expand my parking.
The problem seems to be about the parking. Not about the wide open spaces away from the lot. Heck, I like to travel all over out west, I pull into lots I've never been in. If somebody is around, I ask what works best there. I'm not out there to be a jacka##. If I have to pull my truck ahead to load, it 's not going to screw up my day. If some dude had a big lot on his property to park in and wanted 5 bucks, I'm there. A dude could make a few bucks.
Man I'm all out breath after this. I'm going to get a beer, there's smoke coming outa my ears. I musta burned up a pesky brain cell.
while regulars should know where and how to park, sometimes you are dealing with guys on their first time out there, have a little patience for the guys with out of state place, I don't think tire gashing is the answer, and that is also pretty illegal. Last year my group was sure to leave enough room in front of us, however when we cam back, not only had some pulled within a foot of our trailer, but somehow someone different wedged in ahead of us, we had to physically pick up the trailer and **** it to get loaded and get out of there. I don't care if you have been out there or not, it is common sense that people need room to load up.
And this is one definition of impact. When demand exceeds supply. What appears to be a ton of space available, in reality, is a myth. When there is absolutly no additional property available (I could sell mine a dozen times just this week), you cannot create additional parking in these remote areas. I have accomodated some on my property but to a point where I lose my privacy. The businesses are maxed out as well. The rigs are bigger, the trailers are bigger, the sleds are bigger, and the groups are bigger. Again demand has exceeded supply and the only answer I can see is avoiding the weekends and holidays (which I used to do when I downhill skied).
The Forest Service lots are under a lot of regulation whereas to expand them requires a lot of paperwork, bureaucracy, environmental impact statements and so on. But they are doing it.
You are DEAD ON, on the wide open spaces away from the lot. It is just the congestion at the parking lots,when the sport is getting so popular and may require enforcement of existing laws by existing officers when Newbies or Oldbies get "misaligned".
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ckspeed
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You know, so much of this is BS Everyone here acts like everyone else should know what to do, granted a lot of it is common sense and being courteous, but come on - not everyone here has been to every parking lot and knows what the drill is.
For example, I was at Albany about a month ago, first time there, early am, during the week, the parking lot was snow covered, had 4 other vehicles in it, nobody around to ask, and damned if I knew what I was supposed to do. It looked like there was an attempt at a line, but couldn't be certain that's what was supposed to happen. I used my best judgment as what to do, and allowed plenty of room w/o being ridiculous and hogging space.
Needless to say, I'd be pissed as hell if someone messed with my stuff, flattened my tires, towed, or vandalized my vehicle. You can complain, piss and moan all you want, and I do understand and get frustrated with stupidity just as much as everyone else, but lighten up a little bit - everyone has to be a first timer at some point.
Some mistakes are forgiveable, some are just idiotic and stupid, and yes there are some people who should not be allowed on the mountain. Anyone who flattens tires, vandalizes, or tampers with someone elses property fits into the latter category. Some here are so high and mighty on themselves, well get down off your cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and GET OVER IT. Find a new hobby or go somewhere else if you're so inconvenienced by it. The last thing we need is a bunch of pricks on the mountain.
We're heading up again tomorrow, and I still don't know what the "Snowest Parking Police" rules are
Have a nice day, have a beer on me
Everyone here acts like everyone else should know what to do, granted a lot of it is common sense and being courteous, but come on - not everyone here has been to every parking lot and knows what the drill is.For example, I was at Albany about a month ago, first time there, early am, during the week, the parking lot was snow covered, had 4 other vehicles in it, nobody around to ask, and damned if I knew what I was supposed to do. It looked like there was an attempt at a line, but couldn't be certain that's what was supposed to happen. I used my best judgment as what to do, and allowed plenty of room w/o being ridiculous and hogging space.
Needless to say, I'd be pissed as hell if someone messed with my stuff, flattened my tires, towed, or vandalized my vehicle. You can complain, piss and moan all you want, and I do understand and get frustrated with stupidity just as much as everyone else, but lighten up a little bit - everyone has to be a first timer at some point.
Some mistakes are forgiveable, some are just idiotic and stupid, and yes there are some people who should not be allowed on the mountain. Anyone who flattens tires, vandalizes, or tampers with someone elses property fits into the latter category. Some here are so high and mighty on themselves, well get down off your cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and GET OVER IT. Find a new hobby or go somewhere else if you're so inconvenienced by it. The last thing we need is a bunch of pricks on the mountain.
We're heading up again tomorrow, and I still don't know what the "Snowest Parking Police" rules are
Have a nice day, have a beer on me
I for one will respond to the last post on my own accord. I changed my riding schedule to avoid seeing those issues(see my earlier post). There are newbies, I was one myself a few yrs back, but as far as parking in the lot at Albany, if you get there early, the first one in on a normal weekday, you would have enough time to go for a nice ride, come back down and check how your rig is parked, and if it's parked wrong I really don't think you would see slashed tires, but I bet you would find a couple ppl. that would be glad to fill ya in on how you should be parked. It was said in a couple of posts here, common sense. Ask, understand, enjoy...also, the lodge opens relatively early, catch an early toddy and ask....then be careful and enjoy, don't wanna be advocating drinkin and drivin.....
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