New Ascender Platform and 800 Ctec!
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, the rest of the sled seems to hit the points we were looking forward to, if not completely, at least a better place to start customizing.....but, THE point is the dependability/output/rideability of the engine...looking forward to more input about engine and some real life comparisons with the competition....
....so eric, i'm assuming you could add a little here..
, the rest of the sled seems to hit the points we were looking forward to, if not completely, at least a better place to start customizing.....but, THE point is the dependability/output/rideability of the engine...looking forward to more input about engine and some real life comparisons with the competition........so eric, i'm assuming you could add a little here..
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All I can say for a few days is this......output and rideability of the new engine will be on point.
Reliability should be, this engine has been under testing for a while. We all know how that goes. Reliability is proven or earned, so we won't have solid data on that for a bit.
Reliability should be, this engine has been under testing for a while. We all know how that goes. Reliability is proven or earned, so we won't have solid data on that for a bit.
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03Firecatguy
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You bring excitement and are a complete buzz kill at the same time!
That BDX front end should have been available last fall! Have to weigh options after the big reveal between getting rid of MC for an 18 or doing that front end.
So will this new platform compliment the High country as well? or just the M's?
So here's some of the spec's:
13lbs lighter than the 17
Tank is 5lbs lighter with increased storage for the non estart models
Aluminum drive shaft is 3lbs lighter
Hollow jackshaft is 2.25 lighter
New brake caliper, disc and pads is 1.3lbs lighter
Bodywork is 1lb lighter
Composite steering support is .5lb lighter
Bodywork is 3 inches narrower
Early release models will be available in limited numbers after Feb 1.
All sounds awesome and can't wait to check out the new motor! The etec was what I loved most about my XM, quiet, smooth, could run the thing in the shop and almost no smoke. Looking forward to this with the new Cat. The early release means we will be able to get some real world riding done before most people either snowcheck or purchase one next season. Can't wait to hear how it does up on the hill against the Gen4 and Axys...
13lbs lighter than the 17
Tank is 5lbs lighter with increased storage for the non estart models
Aluminum drive shaft is 3lbs lighter
Hollow jackshaft is 2.25 lighter
New brake caliper, disc and pads is 1.3lbs lighter
Bodywork is 1lb lighter
Composite steering support is .5lb lighter
Bodywork is 3 inches narrower
Early release models will be available in limited numbers after Feb 1.
All sounds awesome and can't wait to check out the new motor! The etec was what I loved most about my XM, quiet, smooth, could run the thing in the shop and almost no smoke. Looking forward to this with the new Cat. The early release means we will be able to get some real world riding done before most people either snowcheck or purchase one next season. Can't wait to hear how it does up on the hill against the Gen4 and Axys...
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03Firecatguy
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Uh oh.
Sounds like a **** show, get rid of that weight reduction because you may as well put the old stuff in right away. But according to those numbers the engine isn't any lighter which doesn't sound right.
Aluminum drive shaft is 3lbs lighter
Hollow jackshaft is 2.25 lighter
I see warranty issues before production lol and if they hold...I wonder how much EXTRA power the will hold...man
Hollow jackshaft is 2.25 lighter
I see warranty issues before production lol and if they hold...I wonder how much EXTRA power the will hold...man
Why? Nothing different any of the other manufacturers havent been doing for years.
On a different note. Over 30% more low end power should make for a killer boondocking turbo
Which will have me paying close attention...either checking an 850 or a new Cat for next year. That is so cool that Cat is mid season sneak releasing this sled. With the 850 pulling #notmybelt and #notmybulkhead hash tags all season I want to see what happens on the snow with a real sled before I commit.
Out of curiosity, the specs for the instrumentation refer to the "coolant" category as digital/indicator light. Is this the same option we have available now??
https://www.snowest.com/2017/01/let-the-games-begin
https://www.snowest.com/2017/01/let-the-games-begin
Because it just took last year to come out with a jackshaft that doesn't break?
And with a dropped case and bigger drivers, that drive shaft is a whole lot more likely to kiss some rocks. Kinda of a sketchy place to save weight IMO, especially with aluminum. The other improvements are enough. These are a potential Achilles heal.
And using skidoo or Polaris as examples of structural integrity right now is kind of silly.
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Everyone cries they want it lighter then cry when they make it that way. The weight has to come from somewhere, gonna be a compromise somewhere if you want lighter weight. The industry does pay attention to it's mistakes and improves upon designs and manufacturing processes. I would rather them take weight from ANYWHERE but the most expensive part, the motor.
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5.25 lbs isn't going to change a purchasing decision for me.
Compromised structural components will, especially in the drivetrain.
If I was truly weight obsessed, I wouldn't own a cat. I'd have a Polaris.
But hey, none of us know. I hope my fears are unfounded.
Compromised structural components will, especially in the drivetrain.
If I was truly weight obsessed, I wouldn't own a cat. I'd have a Polaris.
But hey, none of us know. I hope my fears are unfounded.
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Video from Cat claims 160 hp in new motor
What a great move by AC to get some of these on the snow early. It's a gamble, but if you have confidence in the product why not. Feedback from consumers vs paid sponsors will be awesome. Feedback on production models vs hopped up demos win win. Full on thrashing of the machines by buyers vs a one or two hour demo ride on a machine you're worried about crashing, killer.
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