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Mtn riding technique question - brake?

Deep and bottomless snow will almost always require track speed or it becomes a physical battle all day long. Keep in mind the name of the game is to keep the sled floating on top of the snow. If your going to slow your sled tends sink and plow through the snow making it physically more demanding.
 
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No worries guys ridings through the trees in the steep and deep is as much about Mentally Knowing To Pick The Correct Line as is the use of the throttle and if needed the brake...I can remember side hilling through the trees with a 133 track and 1 inch lugs the technic is still the same except today's newer lighter sleds make it physically easier.

DPG
 
Todays sleds do an amazing job at keeping and getting on top the snow, especially the Pro. Where these guys are riding I don't think there's any such thing as a line more like a bunch of little lines all together. Therefor going slow and in control and picking out all these small lines as you go is a must do in that terrain.
 
When i learned to use my brake comfortably, lost all fear of what is below me. Within reason i guess. Don't tend to cruise along above a big cliff.
 
I constantly have a finger on the brake at all times, the brake helps a lot in steep side hills to control the sled. If you are going to fast in a side hill the brake helps to slow you down so your not out of control.
Ryan

This. I've been using my brake more while still using throttle for control like this as well.

Also, as most anyone who has jumped at all probably knows, brake can be great for adjusting angles mid-air.

For slowing down/steep declines; keep the clutch engaged, let the engine help brake for you. I do also use the brake while keeping revs high enough to engine brake.. This is a bigger deal in late season snow conditions. It may not make sense to use the throttle and brake at the same time, but it works better than just free-coasting and riding the brake.
 
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It's more like brake gas brake gas brakes gas GAS GAS GAS brake gas brake gas GAS GA GAS. Keep the track spinning but control the speed of the sled so you can react. The clutch is working and the engine has some revs so when you need a burst of track speed to get uphill or though a really deep spot you can. "As slow as possible, as fast as necessary." If you have ever been to a Dan Adams Clinic you will hear that all day. On a long steep side hill I run out of gas first. I try and stop in a spot where I can get moving again when MY battery gets charged back up. I also ride the brake hard in the corners to get my long track to turn, sometimes riding the brake all the way through the corners.
 
Steep desent

Sometimes I use the throttle and brake to keep the sled turned sideways on a decent. It's not really side hilling because the sled is not making head way across the hill... just sliding side ways in a descent. It's kind of like turning a snowboard sideways to the hill to burn off some speed. Throttle it and track sinks... brake and the front starts to dive. Some foot work is required, but add the brake throttle combo and it tends to give me the best control. This is the same reason I like a 162 track... I weigh in at 250#/6'4" and the extra track length turned side ways gets me slowed down. IMO
 
Burandt has a video on YouTube saying he uses the brake more than the gas. I only ride flatlands but looking for the most helpful tips I can because I am going to Wyoming in February. I'm sure for me it will be gas and go until the oh crap moment then grab the brakes.
 
schooled

I just watched the movie "schooled #4", they call the maneuver the elevator. Lots of brake, a little throttle, makes for the perfect fall line drop in... yee ha! These videos helped me improve my riding skills. I have watch them over and over again. I realize I will not reach the level of the professor, but hey it's great to take it to the next level or two.
 
I'm signed up for an Amber Holt clinic and I understand she too uses the brake more than the gas. I won't hold it against her that she's riding a Cat!

I figure as a woman she doesn't have brute strength so her riding technique is going to be about finesse - works for me. I'm tired of the brute strength approach - remember the Edge chassis?
 
Brake? Really?

Wow. Well, I'm certainly not going to argue with Matt Entz cause...well...he's a better rider than me, and that's an understatement. However, to the OP, I would say that I have been riding a lot of years, and when it gets deep, usually there isn't much braking going on. I think maybe part of what Matt is showing in that particular pic is a day that isn't all that deep, and also where the tolerance between the trees is quite small. In that case, I could see needing the exact precision of more frequent braking, I guess I just don't often put myself in the situation of only having 3" tolerance between each tree. I especially don't do that if the reward is only powder that is kind of so so. If I have to work that hard and take that much risk to get to powder that is only so so...well then I head off to my day job and wait for a better day of riding.
 
Now I don't know if I'm alone here, but I'm not one of those guys that is on the gas hard, then off, then on hard, then off.

I have a much less dramatic way of riding. One in which makes my friends think my sled is running on one cylinder.
Basically, I ride in the midrange when sidehilling and boondocking(for the most part, when I need to pin it, of course I do) but that means in the 6000rpm range most of the time. That way, a small adjustment of throttle position slows me down, or speeds me up.

There are times when I use the brake, usually for maneuvers that require rapid change of pace or sliding of the rear end so it is positioned properly. But usually I can make that happen with the throttle when I execute properly.

Since the Schooled videos have come out I have gotten the whole, "That isn't how Burandt does it!" and I am fully aware. But Brett R does not ride like Burandt either. I modeled my riding after his somewhat(and other hillclimb racers) by being a little more methodical. The perks to riding with these kinda guys over the years.

Spinning my track at bursts just does nothing for my riding style. I understand it works for others, but not myself. With that said, the racer in me always has a finger on the brake. Just something that naturally happens.(Like my clutch finger on my bike)

Engine braking is huge, and most people just free wheel everything, but that comes down to driving trucks, atvs, bikes, just knowing how mechanics work and how to utilize what they have to further your ability.(When taking about heading downhill)

I am glad I am not a instructor, because I have a hard time remembering when I went riding for the day to specifically learn a certain move. Or an exact time when I learned something that I had not done before. Everything people are trying to teach nowadays was just something you needed to pull off to keep following, or keep going along the path you were on. Again, I guess I have the more skilled riders of my youth to thank for that....
 
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Now I do not know if I am alone here, but I am not one of those guys that is on the gas hard, then off, then on hard, then off.

I have a much less dramatic way of riding. One in which makes my friends think my sled is running on one cylinder.
Basically, I ride in the midrange when sidehilling and boondocking(for the most part, when I need to pin it, of course I do) but that means in the 6000rpm range most of the time. That way, a small adjustment of throttle position slows me down, or speeds me up.

There are times when I use the brake, usually for maneuvers that require rapid change of pace or sliding of the rear end so it is positioned properly. But usually I can make that happen with the throttle when I execute properly.

Since the Schooled videos have come out I have gotten the whole, That isnt how Burandt does it, and I am fully aware. But Brett R does not ride like Burandt either. I modeled my riding after his somewhat(and other hillclimb racers) by being a little more methodical. The perks to riding with these kinda guys over the years. Spinning your track at bursts just does nothing for my riding style. I understand it works for others, but not myself. With that said, the racer in me always has a finger on the brake. Just something that naturally happens.

Engine braking is huge, and most people just free wheel everything, but that comes down to driving trucks, atvs, bikes, just knowing how mechanics work and how to utilize what they have to further your ability.(When taking about heading downhill)

I am glad I am not a instructor, because I have a hard time remembering when I went riding for the day to specifically learn a certain move. Or an exact time when I learned something that I had not done before. Everything people are trying to teach nowadays was just something you needed to pull off to keep following, or keep going along the path you were on. Again, I guess I have the more skilled riders of my youth to thank for that....

Well Said, riding in the mid-range or where the torque of the power band is is optimum. It provides the best momentum & track speed for side hilling and boon docking while allowing for the engine/clutching to provide just enough braking if needed without use of the brake.

DPG
 
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