Lolo, Surveyor, HooDoo, Lookout--Stateline Riders Assn: 2014-15

[Scott]

You don't need two permits to ride lolo pass.
Montana and Idaho have a reciprocal agreement along the state line. You just need one.

The pass isn't ready to ride yet...there is only a few inches. Check the SnoTel link or the Web Cam link at the top of the Montana threads.

 

[2XM3]

when can we ride lolo??? i just moved out here and itching to ride my new nytro.Do you need two permits to ride lolo if you go into idaho? im such a noob

usually the last week of december starts gettin good, trail time before then but u never know ???

 

[THRILL_SEEKER]

Scott- I could be wrong but the way I understand it is you can run the trails of idaho (at lolo pass) with only a montana tag. you can not leave the marked groomed trail. was told you need a montana tag to ride montana and a idaho tag to ride idaho. you can only run the trails in idaho with a valid montana tag, you can not go off the trails. has anyone else been told this?

 

[WestMont]

Scott- I could be wrong but the way I understand it is you can run the trails of idaho (at lolo pass) with only a montana tag. you can not leave the marked groomed trail. was told you need a montana tag to ride montana and a idaho tag to ride idaho. you can only run the trails in idaho with a valid montana tag, you can not go off the trails. has anyone else been told this?

Thats how it was explained to me also. I was also told if your buying a Idaho permit from the Hot Springs that most of the total cost goes to the local club that grooms the trails.

 

[ragincajun]

hey westmont,
what time do you usually get home? i gotta stop by sometime and give ya a check for that clutch,

Bill,
when do ya want to machine that clutch? ill be over yander in eastern MT in havre visiting some friends this weekend. just let me know when ya wanna do it.

 

[WestMont]

I never know for sure Hayden. No worries on a check though. Try to get your sled running first.

 

[2XM3]

ooo thats good John as when I chuck that clutch out of the lathe into the shop wall at mach 4 at least its not paid for yet.....hahhahahahahaha


when u get back Hayden give me a shout

 

[WestMont]

If only that were to happen the look on Hayden's face would be priceless. thenthenagain. lol

 

[Scott]

Scott- I could be wrong but the way I understand it is you can run the trails of idaho (at lolo pass) with only a montana tag. you can not leave the marked groomed trail. was told you need a montana tag to ride montana and a idaho tag to ride idaho. you can only run the trails in idaho with a valid montana tag, you can not go off the trails. has anyone else been told this?

Yep. That's correct.
Now...define "off trail" around Lolo Pass. Literally, or do they give you a buffer as being part of the trail system? They give you room. As far as I've EVER KNOWN....they don't try to patrol it like that up there because that is a grey area and past practice has allowed users to ride whereever they want up there as long as they have a sticker from either state.

A Montana FWP friend explained it that way...as did a good buddy, Steve Frost, who worked for ID Parks and Rec state office. Ironically, Steve actually called me this morning about 7:00 to chat. He works for the SNRA in Ketchum now.

 

[highmarkedu]

Lolo Pass

Wandered up to the pass this last sunday, snow seems to be stickin there was 8 inches or so someone broke trail in a truck so i said hell lets see how far they went made it to the warming hut t past packard and said hell with it as whoever kept goin should have brought the sled for a few road bursts with this snow 2nite there should be a foot maybe more

 

[2XM3]

my backyard has about 1/2 inch...yea !!! thats the valley floor......still coming down !!

 

[duster718]

how much snow is need to ride up there? is it stumpy all over?

 

[Scott]

I wouldn't leave the road at Lolo before mid Dec...and then it can usually be sketchy too.

 

[2XM3]

Yeah, if u ride before then just bring ur checkbook,spare a-arms and a belly pan...lol...trails only 4 a while..

 

[highmarkedu]

Definatly not rideable off trail all the play areas/hillls have 5-6 foot trees tons of stumps and big rocks, you would be suprised at how much crap gets buried im guessing you could ride the trail/road. On Sunday noone went around moose loop and im thinking no trucks are gonna make it the rest of the year i bet you could get a decent road ride back there specially if your the first one. Is December 1st the first day allowed on trails or are they open already?

 

[Scott]

SnoTel only shows 8" total right now.

I'd stay home.

 

[blue fluff]

Wade (or someone) can you interpret what exactly this means? Am I reading it right that the "appeals" would be the appeals to NOT screw with our riding areas. "The plan will be put into practice" means the plan to screw with our riding areas? So basically we got screwed AGAIN? In the last line, why would wildlife orgs appeal the plan, because it's not Commie enough??

Forest Service rejects appeals
Management plan moving into practice

By The Montana Standard Staff - 11/07/2009


DILLON — Forest Service officials announced this week that they had rejected all 56 appeals to the management plan for the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest that was released this year, meaning the plan will be put into practice.

Deputy Forest Service Chief Gloria Manning upheld the forest on all the appeals, the agency said in a press release. Specialists in the Forest Service headquarters in Washington, D.C., had reviewed the plan and the appeals filed on it and determined the plan was solid.

The land and resource management plan guides Forest Service officials. It lays out which activities can take place in which areas of the 3.3-million acre forest.

The plan was drafted along with a corresponding environmental impact statement that lays out the effects of certain activities on the landscape.

The plan includes guidance for activities that includes mining, grazing and logging, as well as which areas are suitable for motorized use and which are eligible for wilderness status, which bars development and motorized use. The plan calls for 322,000 acres of additional wilderness on the forest and designates 284,000 acres of land as suitable timber base where logging is a focus of management. In addition, the plan allocates 1.63 million acres where timber cutting for other resource objectives such as habitat improvement could occur.

Forest Service officials said in the news release the agency would consider three aspects of the plan for further review. Those are more guidance for bighorn sheep-domestic sheep issues, more analysis of the wild and scenic values determination for Deadman and Canyon creeks, and creating a better map for motorized users.

Groups ranging from wildlife organizations, county commissions, motorized access advocates as well as individuals filed appeals to the plan.

 

[2XM3]

Rest assured if the word "Forrest Service" is involved we got screwed again.

Time to take back OUR public lands and send them packing..

NO MORE WILDERNESS!!!!

 

[addam27]

rode lookout today

I got off at the taft exit, drove past the gravel pile and headed north under the underpass for about a mile and unloaded. Not a whole lot of snow down low, but pretty good on top for this time of year, plenty for a road ride. I think the lookout snotel is pretty accurate at 19 inches. I was able to get my 550 trail with a 136 stuck a couple times, no base of course. I didn't hit anything underneath but be careful.

Derick

 

[ragincajun]

to all the Forest circus guys on here lerking in the darkness......start doing YOUR JOB and manage OUR forest lands and tell the leaf lickers to go FU#*$&& themselves!!! thats why we pay taxes!