Correct. Bombers are set up to replicate the exact stock geometry. The Elevate rails are different and by just adding the spindle you will not be able to achieve the same results.
Iceage ELEVATE kit - interesting!!!
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Everyone forgets the drivers were also forward not just up. which gave extra clearance. Also the front of that sled was not raised the 2" while the rear skid was simulataneously dropped 1.5" (I have no idea what the actual number is) Probably less. Just raising the front would probably make it comparable to the 17 approach angle and could get away with it but when you also drop the rear that is likely when you run into issues. So you would only get half the benefit.
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^hmm, i thought it was more of a drop than a roll on the case. and larger drivers also.
skid drops about .75" looks like to me.
id never suggest anyone try it on a non-dropped, just pointing out maybe the dropped case sleds could drop their skid .75" and not stab.
im friggin crazy I know it.
skid drops about .75" looks like to me.
id never suggest anyone try it on a non-dropped, just pointing out maybe the dropped case sleds could drop their skid .75" and not stab.
im friggin crazy I know it.
Looks like Ice Age is going to have to get on making an Alpha rail replacement for this to carry over to the new sleds.
One big fat a$$ machined I-beam would be pretty sweet. Make it so it bends, not snaps.
Cats advertising the spindals on the trail sled as 1.5" taller. Whose going to try and make a set work
We will have Alpha kits in about 10 days. I also feel there will be guys installing twin rail skids in the 2020 mountain sleds......
First off just want to say if your in Canada and you buy the Elevate Kit after ALL the dust settles it will cost you about 2900 dollars Canadian. This is not the fault of Ice Age its the cost of doing business if your Canadian. 
Secondly the bushing swap is a pain in the a$$ and if I were to do it again I would buy new bushings for the front "H" arm (they are 3.95 each) and go that root.
The next issues which may be just with my kit or the fact that my sled is an early release 18' so some parts are different?;
1 - The blocks that hold the front outside idler wheels do not just bolt on, you have to notch out the blocks to clear the rib on the rail. (No mention of this in the instructions)
2 - There are no holes in the rails to mount Both the Limiter Strap cross shaft and the Anti Stab wheel shaft. So you need to put the limiter straps on the Anti Stab wheel shaft. If you push the straps as close together as you can on the "H" arm they will clear the Anti Stab wheels but not by much and you will have to keep an eye on the straps to make sure they don't slide over and start dragging on the wheels. (The stock shaft for the limiter straps are machined out so the straps stay in place. Not so on the Anti Stab wheels shaft)
3 - The holes in the sliders for the bolt that secures them to the rails were NOT drilled the same for either depth (one hole was not counter sunk very far) or distance from the end of the rail. (one fits tight to the front rail end cap, the other is almost 1/8" gap) That being said, I know Ice Age used to use Polaris Sliders in their Kits and if they still do, not surprised about the QC on the sliders.
4 - My rail slider blocks on the rear axle did not fit into the slot (You could probably pound them in with a hammer) but I filled them with a fine file carefully until they fit and would slide from front to back in the slot making sure they were snug, but not jamming.
The spindles were perfect!
Now forget the crazy Canadian price and the F@#$ing around to install the rails (spindles were straight forward) and I will say this after only 2 rides on the sled in crotch deep powder.
Damn does it work ! ! !
I have a 153" 18' my kid has a 162" 18' both early release and mine sits higher ALL the time even when we stop he always had snow piled in front of the "A" arms and nose cone and I never did (or almost never) My sled seems to ride better on the trail, carves side hills easier, dig way harder longer without getting stuck and it takes off way easier because its not pushing snow to get going. Its just plain and simple better over all except climbing back on in crotch deep powder is harder because its sits higher.
Secondly the bushing swap is a pain in the a$$ and if I were to do it again I would buy new bushings for the front "H" arm (they are 3.95 each) and go that root.
The next issues which may be just with my kit or the fact that my sled is an early release 18' so some parts are different?;
1 - The blocks that hold the front outside idler wheels do not just bolt on, you have to notch out the blocks to clear the rib on the rail. (No mention of this in the instructions)
2 - There are no holes in the rails to mount Both the Limiter Strap cross shaft and the Anti Stab wheel shaft. So you need to put the limiter straps on the Anti Stab wheel shaft. If you push the straps as close together as you can on the "H" arm they will clear the Anti Stab wheels but not by much and you will have to keep an eye on the straps to make sure they don't slide over and start dragging on the wheels. (The stock shaft for the limiter straps are machined out so the straps stay in place. Not so on the Anti Stab wheels shaft)
3 - The holes in the sliders for the bolt that secures them to the rails were NOT drilled the same for either depth (one hole was not counter sunk very far) or distance from the end of the rail. (one fits tight to the front rail end cap, the other is almost 1/8" gap) That being said, I know Ice Age used to use Polaris Sliders in their Kits and if they still do, not surprised about the QC on the sliders.
4 - My rail slider blocks on the rear axle did not fit into the slot (You could probably pound them in with a hammer) but I filled them with a fine file carefully until they fit and would slide from front to back in the slot making sure they were snug, but not jamming.
The spindles were perfect!
Now forget the crazy Canadian price and the F@#$ing around to install the rails (spindles were straight forward) and I will say this after only 2 rides on the sled in crotch deep powder.
Damn does it work ! ! !
I have a 153" 18' my kid has a 162" 18' both early release and mine sits higher ALL the time even when we stop he always had snow piled in front of the "A" arms and nose cone and I never did (or almost never) My sled seems to ride better on the trail, carves side hills easier, dig way harder longer without getting stuck and it takes off way easier because its not pushing snow to get going. Its just plain and simple better over all except climbing back on in crotch deep powder is harder because its sits higher.
Looks like he 2 tone painted them. Super cool.
Still no word on a Alpha kit?
What if you added the elevate front end to a K-mod rear?
It is dropping Monday morning.
It is in the works.
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X 3! Been contemplating this all year! Rail swap on the Kmod and spindles and I'd be in
