Childrens fiction section !! lots of other god fairytales there too !
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Childrens fiction section !! lots of other god fairytales there too !
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No I really dont believe! Religion and sience are full of half truths and misinterpretations, I feel that If the truth about mans existence on this planet where reveled we would all be suprised. this to me is like most debates .global warming ,dem or repulican , perspective is everything, and from where i sit religion has the least amont of credibility followed by sciencewhich as mentioned is nearly as guilty of preaching unproven theory as fact! there are many mysterys right here on earth that give us clues as to our origin but like most contreversial ideas people dont want to here it becuase it directly conflicts with there belifes .
well said. Niether science nor religion has a complete answer. Both have thier problems in theories.....i just personally choose science has a stronger arguement. I think the logic is more on par. But like i said before, many crediable scientists have said they believe there is something else acting in this world that we have yet to find....
EDIT: For the record Mafesto, i dont believe. Used to, things happened, and i never will again.
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Ok I just figured I'd share my opinion since everyone else has.
I Believe in a "Christian God" and this is why.
At age 17 in 1995 I was hospitalized with pnemonia and a fever that was so high I would pass out and hallucinate frequently, in the middle of august which raises big red flags to doctors, normally because it is a side effect of something else. This was the case. After hundreds of tests for everything from Hanta-virus, to Legionaries disease, to AIDS and various combinations of treatments the Dr.s and specialists and the CDC were completely stumped. This was in one of the leading hospitals in MN and were at the time anyway considered one of the best in the country. I spent 2 weeks in the ICU and was literally hours from being put on a full range of life support systems, they had my mother already sign all the paper work and told her to get all family members and such there. Then all of a sudden poof I woke up and felt pretty good, and dang hungry since I had been kept nourished by IV nutrients and hadn't eaten in over 15 days. I was 190 lbs before illness and 125 when admitted to the ICU from a regular hospital bed. I had made a recovery that was nearly instantaneous and nearly complete and completely unexplained by all tests, doctors, and specialists. To this day they don't know how or why. I have also had no recurring related problems since in just under 13 years. This leads me to believe that for some reason by someone, something, or some way I was spared and it has a lot of bearing on how I conduct myself every day.
Now I am a very scientific in my approach to almost everything in life and don't believe in fairy tales either. I believe in a theory of Intelligent Design. Which if you've never heard the term refers to a God or Higher power being creating the universe and our world and life through a "blueprint" that explains everything including evolution, but one that we will most likely never see, understand or figure out.
I also believe that , and this part can be proven, all 3 of the worlds most prominent religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) stem from one, originating in the area of the middle east which is the cause of all the ruckus there. All have been reinterpreted to their current states and all have different sub-sects. For this reason I choose to not take any of them literally for their scripts and contents that have been altered by Mankind, and we all know how much we can screw up the message from one interpretation to the next. I choose to affiliate my beliefs much more with the core of the belief system of which all 3 were founded (the 10 commandments) and lean much more toward the foundation of the Christian religions.
So there's my take on it. Believe what you want and don't biotch about what other believe unless they try to cram it down your throat or hurt you because of your or their beliefs in which case by all means defend yourself.
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I Believe in a "Christian God" and this is why.
At age 17 in 1995 I was hospitalized with pnemonia and a fever that was so high I would pass out and hallucinate frequently, in the middle of august which raises big red flags to doctors, normally because it is a side effect of something else. This was the case. After hundreds of tests for everything from Hanta-virus, to Legionaries disease, to AIDS and various combinations of treatments the Dr.s and specialists and the CDC were completely stumped. This was in one of the leading hospitals in MN and were at the time anyway considered one of the best in the country. I spent 2 weeks in the ICU and was literally hours from being put on a full range of life support systems, they had my mother already sign all the paper work and told her to get all family members and such there. Then all of a sudden poof I woke up and felt pretty good, and dang hungry since I had been kept nourished by IV nutrients and hadn't eaten in over 15 days. I was 190 lbs before illness and 125 when admitted to the ICU from a regular hospital bed. I had made a recovery that was nearly instantaneous and nearly complete and completely unexplained by all tests, doctors, and specialists. To this day they don't know how or why. I have also had no recurring related problems since in just under 13 years. This leads me to believe that for some reason by someone, something, or some way I was spared and it has a lot of bearing on how I conduct myself every day.
Now I am a very scientific in my approach to almost everything in life and don't believe in fairy tales either. I believe in a theory of Intelligent Design. Which if you've never heard the term refers to a God or Higher power being creating the universe and our world and life through a "blueprint" that explains everything including evolution, but one that we will most likely never see, understand or figure out.
I also believe that , and this part can be proven, all 3 of the worlds most prominent religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) stem from one, originating in the area of the middle east which is the cause of all the ruckus there. All have been reinterpreted to their current states and all have different sub-sects. For this reason I choose to not take any of them literally for their scripts and contents that have been altered by Mankind, and we all know how much we can screw up the message from one interpretation to the next. I choose to affiliate my beliefs much more with the core of the belief system of which all 3 were founded (the 10 commandments) and lean much more toward the foundation of the Christian religions.
So there's my take on it. Believe what you want and don't biotch about what other believe unless they try to cram it down your throat or hurt you because of your or their beliefs in which case by all means defend yourself.
Over and out
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jimmy my point is how everything in this world is structered behind a leader what makes you think there is not a leader of all(god) it fits perfectly and quite frankly makes more sense than people evolving from goo.
maybe in our little worlds, but if you are actually talking about the world it is not so. It is about cycles.
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do you mean that you are gonna come back as a grasshopper or something ???
Not sure exactly how Karma and reincarnation works but don't you trade up?
If you look throughout the natural world, there is no one leader, unless you are reading a book or something else humans created. Oh, wait, did I just say humans created religion........
Here is a question, If there were no humans/people on Earth, do you think there would still be a god?
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Are you saying that we do not know that God does not exist in the knowledge that we don't have about chemical sciences (a part of the 99%) or about turtle communications (another random part of the 99%)? So if it is possible that there is a god, it must also be possible for there not to be a god.
seems fitting...
doesnt it.
first off who is we? is chemical science your expertise? if it is good. the rest is not your knowledge for the most part. chemical science, turtle communications(so on and so forth) is only a fraction of the available knowledge. you or anyone for that matter is very limited in knowledge. i was asking about his personal knowledge which i was being generous with 1%. are you saying you know more than that? if you are that is a very arrogant and erroneous(sp?) statement. and yes in general terms both questions are fair to pose(possibility of a god/possibility of no god). though the same rule of judgement is not used regarding them. i still contend that the burden of proof is left entirely(unjustifiably so) on the christian.
doesnt it.
We = people / human beings
Chemical science and turtle communications are not my expertise, I was using that as examples of the 99% Kind of funny how you seem to know how much people don't know, since you don't know how much there is to know if the first place. We (see above) could be at 1% or 10% or 0.0001%.
I think Donald Rumsfeld made a statement like that before, and was heavily criticized by the media for it.
We = people / human beings
Chemical science and turtle communications are not my expertise, I was using that as examples of the 99% Kind of funny how you seem to know how much people don't know, since you don't know how much there is to know if the first place. We (see above) could be at 1% or 10% or 0.0001%.
I think Donald Rumsfeld made a statement like that before, and was heavily criticized by the media for it.
your missing the point. it is a personal question(1%) but your trying to bring the whole(99%)into it. my point is to declare a universal negative based on 1% knowledge is illogical. we are limited by space and time among other things. have you been to jupiter to see if there is a god? no so it is a "possibility". so you see to say there is no god as if it is an irrevocable truth is unjustified.
my 99%/1% was just an analogy and can be broken down over time. any analogy can be. when i started posting in this thread i know i wouldnt be able to put up an unassailable arguement. i too am limited.
but if you would just stick with what i am saying you would agree it has merit.
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your missing the point. it is a personal question(1%) but your trying to bring the whole(99%)into it. my point is to declare a universal negative based on 1% knowledge is illogical. we are limited by space and time among other things. have you been to jupiter to see if there is a god? no so it is a "possibility". so you see to say there is no god as if it is an irrevocable truth is unjustified.
my 99%/1% was just an analogy and can be broken down over time. any analogy can be. when i started posting in this thread i know i wouldnt be able to put up an unassailable arguement. i too am limited.
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ok take humans out of the picture is there not still a queen bee a queen ant? still leaders
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