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Forum Expert 9R review

It's sad that $22k is considered a good deal on that sled in today's market. I saw one listed at $27k yesterday.
We live in the golden age of snowmobiling. Incredible stock sled performance from multiple manufacturers. Turbo and mod sleds with warranties. Essentially making the engine aftermarket obselete aside from ECU and flashes. We asked for it, and they delivered. Hard to complain about how great they are, or what they cost. These sleds can go anywhere!
 
I wouldn’t really call the 9r a mod sled? It’s a large displacement engine but it’s probably not on the ragged edge of compression is it? And since electronic fuel injection is pretty dang dialed there’s not a lot of chance to lean it out and destroy it is there? So really you should be looking at a piston head combo that ups the compression from here and i dunno port the valve thingys for more intake? Bwahaha! Why not through a turbo on it anyway? Turbos don’t work good cause it’s more air it because it’s compressed. Big engine lots of air? Chadley ain’t scared!
 
I wouldn’t really call the 9r a mod sled? It’s a large displacement engine but it’s probably not on the ragged edge of compression is it? And since electronic fuel injection is pretty dang dialed there’s not a lot of chance to lean it out and destroy it is there? So really you should be looking at a piston head combo that ups the compression from here and i dunno port the valve thingys for more intake? Bwahaha! Why not through a turbo on it anyway? Turbos don’t work good cause it’s more air it because it’s compressed. Big engine lots of air? Chadley ain’t scared!
Are you drunk?
 
Roger that. I only ride with smart people.
Since it's obvious that you think you are much smarter than me... I'm curious as to why is it that you choose to live in a crappy place like Federal Way, be a less capable snowmobiler, and a much less successful person than myself? That doesn't seem very smart at all. ??‍♂️ I really couldn't imagine how much better my life would be if I was as smart as you Rusty! I do know my belts would at least last 300 more miles!
 
Well….it’s just a larger displacement? I don’t know the details but I would wager that if you had the money you could pay a guy to machine a larger cylinder and piston for it and have even more displacement. You could probably stroke it again too.??? Now get it somewhere near 17:1 and real ratty and there’s your mod sled. This is just a 6.4 as compared to a 5.3 . Lol !!! Remember when we did all this stuff and it allways blew up? No efi. No real good metallurgy. No computerized ignition. I have a motorcycle in my garage that you advance the ignition manually as you run lol. Was just a joke but honestly isn’t it 900 cc vs 850? Yes the tuning changes it’s performance but why is that different than a 1000 or 1200 ect ect…
Think about a top fuel dragster engine…
I think we should go fund chadley a mod of the mod and send him to revelstoke for testing on camera???
 
Well….it’s just a larger displacement? I don’t know the details but I would wager that if you had the money you could pay a guy to machine a larger cylinder and piston for it and have even more displacement. You could probably stroke it again too.??? Now get it somewhere near 17:1 and real ratty and there’s your mod sled. This is just a 6.4 as compared to a 5.3 . Lol !!! Remember when we did all this stuff and it allways blew up? No efi. No real good metallurgy. No computerized ignition. I have a motorcycle in my garage that you advance the ignition manually as you run lol. Was just a joke but honestly isn’t it 900 cc vs 850? Yes the tuning changes it’s performance but why is that different than a 1000 or 1200 ect ect…
Think about a top fuel dragster engine…
I think we should go fund chadley a mod of the mod and send him to revelstoke for testing on camera???
Its more than just displacement. Cnc porting, tuned y pipe and pipe. Lightweight flywheel

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First 9R ride today... and I'm happy.

Shockingly fast throttle response. Immediate track speed. It was almost foreign at first since the track digs so hard/fast at lower throttle levels than the 850NA. Literally goes from 0-40mph track speed in what feels like a second.

Increased confidence to make quick moves in steep tree lines. Just point, let it eat, and it'll go wherever you want.

Very fun sled! And the 23s have little refinements like some hood closure pads for the top tab of side panels, a better closing/sealing glove box, etc.

Why do new sleds smell so weird?

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First 9R ride today... and I'm happy.

Shockingly fast throttle response. Immediate track speed. It was almost foreign at first since the track digs so hard/fast at lower throttle levels than the 850NA. Literally goes from 0-40mph track speed in what feels like a second.

Increased confidence to make quick moves in steep tree lines. Just point, let it eat, and it'll go wherever you want.

Very fun sled! And the 23s have little refinements like some hood closure pads for the top tab of side panels, a better closing/sealing glove box, etc.

Why do new sleds smell so weird?
I seen some of the little refinements as ours is sitting in the trailer and i can't ride it because I'm trading it for a 155
Sucks. Doing swap next week.
155 or 165?
 
You lose air density as you increase in elevation. This is why a boosted engine will out perform a NA engine at higher elevation. To make the same power the higher you climb the engine needs more air.

You are changing clutching as you increase in elevation to compensate for the loss of power. Keep the same power output and you don’t need to change clutching.

A turbo charged engine running at sea-level will need high octane fuel in most cases to take full advantage of added boost pressure. Also to keep from melting pistons. Otherwise your boost pressure will need to be very very low.. So why bother? A big bore is a better option.

You don't realize how the boost works, do you? (Factory boost from Polaris anyways)

Variable boost pressure based on atmospheric pressure.
As you gain elevation it gains boost pressure. It'll only run a couple psi at sea level, and 10psi at 10k.

The best thing about the boost is you never need to adjust the clutch until you're 11-12k.

My buddies boondocker is tuned the same. Just stuff 91 in it and ride. Never touch the clutch and it just pulls hard and track speed is stupid high all the time.
 
Didn’t they invent the turbo for airplanes and elevation? Maybe who cares? You can’t tell a guy what’s what anyway no matter how much evidence there is lol. Stroked motors are fun.

They still add weight.

If you're only using 80% of the power (many are surprised how little they ever use 100% throttle when recorded) what does it matter?

If the front end is 20 lbs lighter every time you're not actually 100%, it makes the whole sled feel lighter and more nimble.
 
You don't realize how the boost works, do you? (Factory boost from Polaris anyways)

Variable boost pressure based on atmospheric pressure.
As you gain elevation it gains boost pressure. It'll only run a couple psi at sea level, and 10psi at 10k.
I'd like to see a dyno at 10k+ feet show us this data of hp/torque and boost pressure. Does anyone know of a setup at elevation where good testing is happening?

If the front end is 20 lbs lighter every time you're not actually 100%, it makes the whole sled feel lighter and more nimble.

The more I ride a NA polaris, the more I appreciate light sleds.
 
I'd like to see a dyno at 10k+ feet show us this data of hp/torque and boost pressure. Does anyone know of a setup at elevation where good testing is happening?



The more I ride a NA polaris, the more I appreciate light sleds.


Go test it yourself. If it still pulls rpm it has full power. If it won't, it's loosing power.
 
Boost will not lose power at 10k feet and up. 9R will lose power higher you go
It’s still NA motor
You only say that because you haven't ridden this sled yet. This thing is Quick. I put 100 miles on mine between 6 and 9K feet and it does not need a turbo. It has instant throttle response you can't get with a turbo
 
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