Colin Kaepernick - what a loser
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Lots say there was 1300 police fatal shootings last year. That number is probably high. Let's say there is 760,000 policemen serving right now. That is a 08 stat so it is probably low. Let's say all 1300 were individuals of color. That is also high. That is less than .2% of policemen involved in fatal shootings last year. To use that stat to say police shoot black people is crazy. There is bad cops, but the vast majority are working hard to keep us safe. Root out the bad ones and punish them harshly.
Based on the fact snowmobilers get such a bad rap as forest destroying drunken thugs, I would think we would be not so quick to judge.
Based on the fact snowmobilers get such a bad rap as forest destroying drunken thugs, I would think we would be not so quick to judge.
Then we agree....
Treat officers with the respect that they deserve, and nobody gets hurt. Not the perp or the cop.
Good to finally find some common ground here!
You're still saying that lack of respect deserves death. What did you think when LaVoy Finicum was shot?
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You seem to have fairly strong conviction with your opinion, as do I.
Please put yourself in the place of an officer when a situation had gotten apesh!t crazy. How would you react?
I certainly don't expect an officer put the perpetrator's life above his own when it's the perp that is out of control.
In fact I fully expect the officer to place a higher value on his own life.
Please put yourself in the place of an officer when a situation had gotten apesh!t crazy. How would you react?
I certainly don't expect an officer put the perpetrator's life above his own when it's the perp that is out of control.
In fact I fully expect the officer to place a higher value on his own life.
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I do as well. I'm not against the majority of police officers. I'm for more training, and specifically de-escalation training.
You argue for respect for officers. I think that's great, but we can't train everyone. We can train police to not have a chip on their shoulder, and react to every act of disrespect in a way that inflames the situation more than it already is. People get killed that way, including cops.
Not disagreeing with that at all.
But I stand firm that a simple "yes sir" and "no sir" will save more lives and costs nothing.
Look at the way kids talk to teachers vs a generation ago.
For the most part, parents are not teaching their kids how to show respect for authority and it is literally costing kids their lives!
But I stand firm that a simple "yes sir" and "no sir" will save more lives and costs nothing.
Look at the way kids talk to teachers vs a generation ago.
For the most part, parents are not teaching their kids how to show respect for authority and it is literally costing kids their lives!
I can appreciate your conviction. But you just need to spend ten minutes on YouTube and you can find dozens probably hundreds of situations where the people were fully compliant with the officer and got dead anyway.
Heck you can even find quite a few where officers have murdered disabled people (autism etc) because they didn't understand what the cop was saying or got so scared that they ran and cop shoots em in the back.
And it happens a lot more than you would expect. What r we sposed to teach autistic and downs syndrome people more respect?
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I say take away the cops gun and then all the trigger happy pu$$ies with a chip on their shoulder will quit. The good ones with common sense don't need a gun anyway.
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I get that you're not disagreeing, but you are framing it in such a way that holds the police blameless.
Sure it costs nothing to say "people should just be respectful." It also accomplishes nothing. How about we just train all people to never break the law. That should work, right?
None of this thread is pertaining to the handicapped, and to use their disability as an argument point isn't really proper.
Actually, it accomplishes the answer to the whole problem that we are debating.
Don't give the officer a reason to feel the need to restrain you in any manner.
Nobody gets hurt.
Is that really that far fetched?
I'll return to this, it's just as realistic. Why are you so insistent that death is a reasonable consequence of disrespect?
It helps to walk a mile in the shoes of the officer, he doesnt know who he is pulling over, he is there to do his job and go home to his family. He doesnt know if the suspect will put on a smile being cooperative and then desceptively pull out a gun while the officers guard is down and shoot him in the face. Officers always have to be on guard for their life.
Im sorry, your right and I'm wrong, cops are evil, republicans are evil and joseph smith is god.
Does this help your conviction sweetheart?
Because I firmly believe that if the officer feels threatened it is not only his right, but his duty to neutralize the threat.
Now, knowing that the officer will reciprocate with such force, why provoke that reaction?
So simple, even I can understand it!
