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An end to track length debates!

trust me i will out climb, out boondock anybody on any track length if they think they are rowdy! The 174" is king dick, and challenge anybody who thinks there short track can beat me to pm me and i will show them the real deal!!!!!!! if your in the valley area i will take you on.. so far there has been only only one guy to beat me and thats richboy202@hotmail.com!......

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LMAO - & fell out of the chair!!


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Well Josh ran a 54 and was lethal with it. But he did run over as many trees as he went around!!! It was a great working setup with 140 lbs of Josh on board. However, Don, Dale, DJ and myself all run 163s. Side by side comparison, switching sleds we all agreed (Josh included) that the 63 on an XP platform worked better in the technical riding. It will just pull on top quicker and keep trenching longer than the shorter track. Not sure what Norm and Dave are running...haven't ridden with them. Any track can work. People that think a 163 doesnt work as well as a shorter track because it doesnt flick around enough are wrong. Plain and simple. I believe that in the right hands a 174 can snake through the trees. The problem that I can see is whether or not a stock or near stock powered sled can build QUICK enough track speed with that much track. Im going to go riding with Mr Hooch and I will report back. I will say that under some conditions the quicker track speed of the 54 was an advantage. Logger155, who are you??

I'm ryan holzapple i ride with all those guys in canada and harvey creek. Best boondockers ever. I have been in the danger zone 2. I freakin miss riding with josh. I wish he here to shut all these dudes up on his 154. Whats your name.
 
Each track has there own best features, if you try to take a 174 in a tight woods climb you will be fighting your sled all the way up the hill. A 144 will do much better in tight climbs. In the U.P. of michigan most guys wont go over 153" because of the tight climbs and need to use trails. When you actually have to pick a line and stick with it because of the trees and rocks the shorter tracks are nice but when we get out west into the open riding we prefer as long of a track as we can afford and push with our sleds. I have been with some riders that like to keep it as short as possible it makes little powder feel like big powder and gives a little challenge since we dont have the huge climbs like out west. Dont get me wrong I would love to try a 174 on some of the stuff we have in the UP but for 95% of the riding that much track would be useless for me. Last weekend we went riding with 22-30" of powder 12 guys went and 3 had 121X1.5 finger tracks and everyone was impressed with where they went. I was running my 144 we had four 141s a couple 136s one 153 and one 151 and everyone got stuck at least once but it was all in climbs where you couldnt just hold it to the bars and go it was a lot of sidehilling and swerving through trees. we even had to put about 40 miles on trails and 2 had issues with their slides melting down because of it and I'll let you guys guess which ones they were...... If your are ever in the UP and want to challenge me on a woods climb let me know.
 
I'm ryan holzapple i ride with all those guys in canada and harvey creek. Best boondockers ever. I have been in the danger zone 2. I freakin miss riding with josh. I wish he here to shut all these dudes up on his 154. Whats your name.

Jake Barker, ya those guys are by far the best boondocking group anyone will ever run into in the hills. It was always an awesome ride when we assembled the group!!! And ya, Josh proved a 54 could work. The rest of us prove a 63 can work. And Im sure with a proper setup a 74 can work as well.
 
Each track has there own best features, if you try to take a 174 in a tight woods climb you will be fighting your sled all the way up the hill. A 144 will do much better in tight climbs. In the U.P. of michigan most guys wont go over 153" because of the tight climbs and need to use trails. When you actually have to pick a line and stick with it because of the trees and rocks the shorter tracks are nice but when we get out west into the open riding we prefer as long of a track as we can afford and push with our sleds. I have been with some riders that like to keep it as short as possible it makes little powder feel like big powder and gives a little challenge since we dont have the huge climbs like out west. Dont get me wrong I would love to try a 174 on some of the stuff we have in the UP but for 95% of the riding that much track would be useless for me. Last weekend we went riding with 22-30" of powder 12 guys went and 3 had 121X1.5 finger tracks and everyone was impressed with where they went. I was running my 144 we had four 141s a couple 136s one 153 and one 151 and everyone got stuck at least once but it was all in climbs where you couldnt just hold it to the bars and go it was a lot of sidehilling and swerving through trees. we even had to put about 40 miles on trails and 2 had issues with their slides melting down because of it and I'll let you guys guess which ones they were...... If your are ever in the UP and want to challenge me on a woods climb let me know.

Real boondockin out west is far from open, hold it to the bar riding man.
 
debate

Sure sounds like you really ended the debate, I can finally sleep at night. Every one has their own reasons for having the track that they have.
 
Track Length

I always figured it best to have fun with what you got. Admire the folks that ride better than you. Don't knock anybody else's sled and shut the f--k up.
 
Can't resist so here we go. I do ride a 174" in very tight trees. Does it make me the baddest thing on the snow like Hooch? NO. Does it give me an advantage? YES!!!. I went from a 159 to a 162 to a 174 and would never go back. But that is my own choice. I ride every weekend with 154's and 163's and the 174 kicks. Do the others have just as much fun ABSOLUTELY !!!. Who really cares what length track you run if you are haveng fun. As far as handling in the trees I have not noticed any negatives of the 174, but a lot of positives ( one mans opinion ). No matter what track or how much hp you have it comes down to rider ability. Ride what you have and enjoy. By the way hooch if your 174 is not a 3" you are no longer king dick just dick or maybe Jane.
 
I hate guys like hooch. The ones that always flap there gums aren't the good riders. They run there mouth to compensate for something their missing.It's like a bar fight. The tough guys are'nt the ones running their mouth. I have a 151 and a turbo with a 153. That is the perfect track length. This is the best length for boondocking. A 174 is too long in the trees. They won't turn with a 151. If you think they will why don't you get a hold of burandt's backcountry adventure.
 
The track length must fit what you enjoy doing, In four foot of fresh dry Montana powder I have days where the turbo would like a 224 x 24 x 3 inch paddle track going up the mountain. I currently run a BD M8 W/174 x 15 x 2.5
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I hate guys like hooch. The ones that always flap there gums aren't the good riders. They run there mouth to compensate for something their missing.It's like a bar fight. The tough guys are'nt the ones running their mouth. I have a 151 and a turbo with a 153. That is the perfect track length. This is the best length for boondocking. A 174 is too long in the trees. They won't turn with a 151. If you think they will why don't you get a hold of burandt's backcountry adventure.


awww isnt that sweet, im not the compensating for anything your the one with the turbo:D:beer;...p.s. i am heading down to burandts backcountry adventure!

but really i wish you guys would stop saying that 174 cant turn in the trees, especially since most of you have not ridden a 174!...They turn just fine in the trees, i did not notice any difference in turning capabilities at all from my old 153, if anything its way better because it allows me to go alot slower then you do with a short track cause it has so much bite!:beer;:beer;
 
If u have a smile on your face your sled is working for u no matter what shape size or form. So to all get off ur computer and go ride winters too short. I'd be riding but parenting my son today.
 
I have a 174 on my sled, but I put 22 inch big wheel kit on it and cut the rails down 2 feet and now it is a 121. Ohh yeah, i forgot to tell you the big wheel kit has spinners.....it's pretty cool and it only added about 78 lbs to the whole set up.

Pic to come...seriously! I primarily use it to roll deep inner city Detroit in the winter time. Pimpin!
 
I have a 174 on my sled, but I put 22 inch big wheel kit on it and cut the rails down 2 feet and now it is a 121. Ohh yeah, i forgot to tell you the big wheel kit has spinners.....it's pretty cool and it only added about 78 lbs to the whole set up.

Pic to come...seriously! I primarily use it to roll deep inner city Detroit in the winter time. Pimpin!

BRO!!!! I was totally gonna do that.....i want my seat to hang out past my the back of my track!!! Donk Boxin it!!!!:D:D:D
 
I have a 174 on my sled, but I put 22 inch big wheel kit on it and cut the rails down 2 feet and now it is a 121. Ohh yeah, i forgot to tell you the big wheel kit has spinners.....it's pretty cool and it only added about 78 lbs to the whole set up.

Pic to come...seriously! I primarily use it to roll deep inner city Detroit in the winter time. Pimpin!

What? All that and I don't hear anything about hydraulics on it? Plus, don't you also need a $10,000 stereo system, a 5' wide spoiler, and some fuzzy dice to hang from the handlebars. Not to mention you need to mount the snowflap at an angle, and heat the springs so you'll ride about 10" lower than stock. Now that's pimpin!!
 
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