An end to track length debates!

[blazer71]

What? All that and I don't hear anything about hydraulics on it? Plus, don't you also need a $10,000 stereo system, a 5' wide spoiler, and some fuzzy dice to hang from the handlebars. Not to mention you need to mount the snowflap at an angle, and heat the springs so you'll ride about 10" lower than stock. Now that's pimpin!!

Homie,,,,,trying to keep the weight down!!!! I mean seriously I am lucky only adding 78 lbs.....dontcha think?

 

[440dart]

you guys with 141 to 154 shouldnt be talking everybody on here with a 162 or bigger will agree that they will not out climb a 162-74 in powder boondocking or on a hill its common sense, hooch use to be the guy in our group oh u dont need anything longer than 153 but after our first ride in canada 2 174s and 163 it tottaly changed everything for him seeing is beleiveing when we were cutting fresh lines up rolling hills with 3ft of fresh pow and we were haveing to make roads for hooch to get up even with his 120mph track speed something clicked in that lil artic cat brain of his hmm what if i had a 74, there was no skill level exscuse it was a straight line pull so dont give me that bs you cant go wrong useing a 162-174 track in powder but u guys with these short tracks are like a swarm of annoying nats buzzing in your ear at the bbq sure maybe a 300hp 141 might hang with a 174 but apples to apples remember this is a track debate equal hp whats going to win let me guess u brain dead short tracks um duh um well the 141 will i mean u can only move so much sno with a 141 before ur trenched up to ur tunnel take some time think about what your saying

 

[Mjunkie]

you guys with 141 to 154 shouldnt be talking everybody on here with a 162 or bigger will agree that they will not out climb a 162-74 in powder boondocking or on a hill its common sense, hooch use to be the guy in our group oh u dont need anything longer than 153 but after our first ride in canada 2 174s and 163 it tottaly changed everything for him seeing is beleiveing when we were cutting fresh lines up rolling hills with 3ft of fresh pow and we were haveing to make roads for hooch to get up even with his 120mph track speed something clicked in that lil artic cat brain of his hmm what if i had a 74, there was no skill level exscuse it was a straight line pull so dont give me that bs you cant go wrong useing a 162-174 track in powder but u guys with these short tracks are like a swarm of annoying nats buzzing in your ear at the bbq sure maybe a 300hp 141 might hang with a 174 but apples to apples remember this is a track debate equal hp whats going to win let me guess u brain dead short tracks um duh um well the 141 will i mean u can only move so much sno with a 141 before ur trenched up to ur tunnel take some time think about what your saying

To each his own, and I don't ever want to go longer than 144, and I've never had a problem going anywhere in the deepest snow with the 162's (I'll admit I've never ridden with anyone riding a 174). I almost always hi-mark with my "short" track, I don't know exactly what the combination is, but it works. That is the only point I was trying to make, and I'm positive that all of you "long" track riders would be very surprised at how well my "short" track sled goes. My offer still stands, if anyone wants to go for a great ride in northern utah, not to bash, but for just a great ride, send me a pm and we'll go. It'll be a great ride, guaranteed.

 

[NoSecondChances]

you guys with 141 to 154 shouldnt be talking everybody on here with a 162 or bigger will agree that they will not out climb a 162-74 in powder boondocking or on a hill its common sense.......

LOL - too easy!!

take some time think about what your saying

OMFG - are you for real?

Thanks for the afternoon laughs.

 

[BullHead]

you guys with 141 to 154 shouldnt be talking everybody on here with a 162 or bigger will agree that they will not out climb a 162-74 in powder boondocking or on a hill its common sense, hooch use to be the guy in our group oh u dont need anything longer than 153 but after our first ride in canada 2 174s and 163 it tottaly changed everything for him seeing is beleiveing when we were cutting fresh lines up rolling hills with 3ft of fresh pow and we were haveing to make roads for hooch to get up even with his 120mph track speed something clicked in that lil artic cat brain of his hmm what if i had a 74, there was no skill level exscuse it was a straight line pull so dont give me that bs you cant go wrong useing a 162-174 track in powder but u guys with these short tracks are like a swarm of annoying nats buzzing in your ear at the bbq sure maybe a 300hp 141 might hang with a 174 but apples to apples remember this is a track debate equal hp whats going to win let me guess u brain dead short tracks um duh um well the 141 will i mean u can only move so much sno with a 141 before ur trenched up to ur tunnel take some time think about what your saying

exactly, i know soooo many spots in bc that it would be nice to have the longest track, 3-5 ft of fresh bottemless powder, so deep you dont get off your sled to take a piss, because you sink to your shoulders if you jump off the sled, so much snow that no matter what lenth track you have, your getting stuck, so that 174 is very very awesome, and i will put one on my sled, because if every weekend when i would go riding in bc, theres always 2-3ft of fresh snow, we are talking areas that get 40-60ft of snowfall per year, so cheers to the 174 double cheers to the 174with 3inch paddles

 

[stonehands]

 

[00kitty]

i dont care how long the track is if you hit it at 100mph your good to go and i have a 136" haha

 

[HOOCH256]

thanks 440dart and bullhead, at least there are a few people around this are that see things my way some day those lil gnats will figure it out about the long track

i dont care how long the track is if you hit it at 100mph your good to go and i have a 136" haha

what a dumb statement...100mph don't mean much when you bury it to the tunnel!...you short trackers are a special breed of people, especially you people who try to mountain ride with short tracks

 

[needpowder]

thanks 440dart and bullhead, at least there are a few people around this are that see things my way some day those lil gnats will figure it out about the long track






what a dumb statement...100mph don't mean much when you bury it to the tunnel!...you short trackers are a special breed of people, especially you people who try to mountain ride with short tracks

No kidding. Do you think you're gonna get a run in on the groomer or something? Why do you even think there will be room to get speed at the bottom of the hill. I love short track sleds but come on. Let's post like we have a brain.

 

[440dart]

as for boondocking iam sure some of you ride right here in the flathead we have hardly any wide open to the bar type hills its all trees and very tight alot of times we are almost at a stop trying to find a way to keep going up the hill looking up doing a sidehill picking our way through the trees finding an opening then going for it even with my stock 163 last year i couldnt slow down to much it would trench and i would get stuck, but any of you that come to the flathead hit hooch up or richboy come ride with us show you the real meaning to the so called "boondocking" i like the wide open hills to gets boreing after awhile my sleds loves trees keep your short tracks one less sled i have to worry about

 

[Farmy22]

Each track has there own best features, if you try to take a 174 in a tight woods climb you will be fighting your sled all the way up the hill. A 144 will do much better in tight climbs. In the U.P. of michigan most guys wont go over 153" because of the tight climbs and need to use trails. When you actually have to pick a line and stick with it because of the trees and rocks the shorter tracks are nice but when we get out west into the open riding we prefer as long of a track as we can afford and push with our sleds. I have been with some riders that like to keep it as short as possible it makes little powder feel like big powder and gives a little challenge since we dont have the huge climbs like out west. Dont get me wrong I would love to try a 174 on some of the stuff we have in the UP but for 95% of the riding that much track would be useless for me. Last weekend we went riding with 22-30" of powder 12 guys went and 3 had 121X1.5 finger tracks and everyone was impressed with where they went. I was running my 144 we had four 141s a couple 136s one 153 and one 151 and everyone got stuck at least once but it was all in climbs where you couldnt just hold it to the bars and go it was a lot of sidehilling and swerving through trees. we even had to put about 40 miles on trails and 2 had issues with their slides melting down because of it and I'll let you guys guess which ones they were...... If your are ever in the UP and want to challenge me on a woods climb let me know.

I understand what youre saying. I have ridden out west some but i grew up in da UP. Around L'Anse. First time i went out west, they called me the lumberjack cause i spent so much time riding in the trees. I'm not a big climber but i like powder and technical climbs. (go figure) I really like to go downhill in the trees. Very technical, gets the heart pumpin. They figured me for a typical flatlander with a 144. They said they were very very impressed and i could come back anytime. Its never tracked up...My buddy with his 159 does good but has some nice tree damage on his tunnel from following me around last year. To each their own though, i dont mind being called a trail sled. As long as everyone has fun i'm good. I'll hit you up on that challenge though....

 

[440dart]

haha give me a couple weeks to join in my sled lost a piston my fault tho

 

[m_beeson]

Just in case anyone cares (and you probably don't), I live in Utah and we have many many days a season of 3 to 5 feet of light fluffy powder and my "short" track 141" still does extremely well, enough to hi-mark most, but I know none of you will believe it, so my words fall on blind eyes, but if anyone in the northern utah area wants to ride with me and the group I ride with, not for a bashing session, but for a good boondocking, hill climbing, cornice jumping ride, let me know with a pm. I'm always looking for an excuse to go another day.

yeah, I was just thinking of the day that I burned my old Polaris down in the Uintas. That was some deeeep ****...

Same goes for you Mjunkie. If you're in a bind for someone to ride with, Shoot me a pm.

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

bigger is easier, shorter is more fun,.... thats pretty much the debate summed up.

and hooch, i think my opinion is valid as we ride the same areas, and last year was stupid deep. i had to ride the f7 141 13.5 finger track in it a few times when mine was burned down, that makes you learn how to never slow down, i got stuck not to much cuz i got used to staying to hte bar all day. i couldnt go very far but i had a blast playing around in the big field up canyon creek all day, i got stuck going down it WOT a few times. you cant go as far with the shorter tracks, but like my buddies said when i got a big track, great, now you can stuck farther away and higher up.

 

[triple7]

Hooch and I r gonna go ridin in the next few weeks. People with shorter tracks do not understand the type of tree riding we are talking about. Ive seen 1 154 hang in there and many many others try. You are welcome to come along. But bring your shovel, and dont expect a ton of help. I used to be a shorter track, more speed, learn to ride type of guy till I learned that what you should do is be a long track, enough power to turn it, get through the trees as cleanly and quickly as possible and go places never gone before type of guy...ya the 174 initially seems too long...but back in 2000 everyone thought a 151 was too long.