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AirPlane on a Teardmill and Mythbusters
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Yer right bonzo!! I just drug out the vacum,(intake, exhaust, like a jet engine.) stuck the nozzle against the dog's head(he was sleeping) & turned it on..... He shot through the living room like chit shootin' through a goose! Ricocheting off the patio door, rattling the wind chimes outside, finally screeching to a cowering halt underneath the kitchen table..
I love science.
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
Seems to be more NON believers than the last time this was talked about.
oh my good freakin grief... has anyone even finished highschool?
I am still in awe thinking that people believe it wont fly
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I am still in awe thinking that people believe it wont fly
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I'm confused. Are we assuming the treadmill is moving or no? When I first heard this I thought the question was could the plane over come the opposite movement of the treadmill to create lift...someone made it sound like the treadmill is in neutral and some how that'll make it not fly?
I still say it gets airborn.
I still say it gets airborn.
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funny...... all the people that say it will fly, who also seem to feel the need to make themselves seem superior by adding in derogatory comments, are the ones who fail to post supporting facts or documentation. Useless argument without support. Kinda like chitting out a sinker..... lots of noise, but no proof that you were there in the end.
Good point sick.. Very good point.. C'mon you "fly like eddie the eagle rocket scientists"!!!! Give us some specs!!! Tell us WHY it will fly!!!
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If in fact the plane were able to develop enough thrust to drag the wheels (that is what would be taking place as the conveyor belt would negate the forward movement of the tires) down the runway, the tires would blow out and the landing gear would collapse making flight impossible.
It is not so much that we are trying to feel superior, but that this issue was absolutely discussed to death in the old forum. In all, I think that there was somewhere around 650 comments on this subject. If you want to rehash these arguments, you can start here: http://www.snowest.com/fusetalk/mes...adid=320689&highlight_key=y&keyword1=Airplane.
Frankly, since most folks here have had thier fill trying to convince the deniers in the old thread, we now just laugh at you.
OK, If said plane needs 100% of it's power to take flight under ideal conditions, then no, it won't fly.
But I don't know of any aircraft where that is the case.
Here is what would be required to gain flight.....
Enough "extra" power to overcome the extra rolling resistance of the wheel
assemblies. (tires to ground & rolling bearings)
Enough "extra" power to overcome the dirty air created by the moving ground.
(conveyor belt)
One could manipulate this experiment to achieve either outcome.
That much I am confident of.
I also say that under MOST circumstances, most planes will have ample power
to overcome the excess drag placed upon it, thus achieving flight.
Let me clarify that I am not an aerodynamic engineer.
So yes I may be wrong.
Now here's another question......
"Can you land the plane in the same direction as the conveyor travel?"
But I don't know of any aircraft where that is the case.
Here is what would be required to gain flight.....
Enough "extra" power to overcome the extra rolling resistance of the wheel
assemblies. (tires to ground & rolling bearings)
Enough "extra" power to overcome the dirty air created by the moving ground.
(conveyor belt)
One could manipulate this experiment to achieve either outcome.
That much I am confident of.
I also say that under MOST circumstances, most planes will have ample power
to overcome the excess drag placed upon it, thus achieving flight.
Let me clarify that I am not an aerodynamic engineer.
So yes I may be wrong.
Now here's another question......
"Can you land the plane in the same direction as the conveyor travel?"
"Can you land the plane in the same direction as the conveyor travel?"[/quote]
Yes.. The pilot can use the wing flaps & reverse thrust from the engine to keep the nose down.. A pilot has the capability to keep a jet on the ground as long as he wants..
Yes.. The pilot can use the wing flaps & reverse thrust from the engine to keep the nose down.. A pilot has the capability to keep a jet on the ground as long as he wants..
This is my final word on this !!!!
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
The dirty air from the conveyor belt moving will increase take off speed, and the resistance from the tires and bearings in the hubs will take more thrust to overcome, but as he said, as long as a jet doesn't have to take off under full power in normal situations, the jet WILL FLY!!!!!No..It's "DONG DONG DONG"!!! the scenario CLEARLY states that the belt compensates for ANY increase in jet speed or thrust!! The plane remains stationary.Period! Now a prop plane WILL achieve lift cuz the props will move air across the wing no matter what the belt speed is.. A jet turbine does not accomplish this because it basically isolates the air being moved into an enclosed orafice. The jet engine does produce thrust forward, but is negated by the increase in the belt speed.
Doo, I would expect better application of grey matter from a montanan than you are displaying. (I still added to yer rep though)
Doo, I would expect better application of grey matter from a montanan than you are displaying.
(I still added to yer rep though)
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Yer right bonzo!! I just drug out the vacum,(intake, exhaust, like a jet engine.) stuck the nozzle against the dog's head(he was sleeping) & turned it on..... He shot through the living room like chit shootin' through a goose! Ricocheting off the patio door, rattling the wind chimes outside, finally screeching to a cowering halt underneath the kitchen table..
I love science.
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bbbwwwwahahahahahahaha that is soooooooooo funny....
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But yet you feel the need to be an active contributor to the new thread..... In case you haven't noticed I went either way on this since Canadian highschools do not have an aeronautical engineering course..... But with that being said, break it down into it's parts.....
1. If the theory that it will take off on a treadmill is correct, and the convetor is moving backwards at a 1:1 ratio with the forward movemnent of the plane, then the instant the plane lifts off the conveyor, it is traveling at exactly 0.0 mph. Correct me if i'm wrong, but lift dynamics are not at their peak conditions without forward movement to hold the plane in the air. Plane crashes and there are people leaking everywhere.
2. The theory that the plane won't take off is more logical...... If the conveyor is moving backwards at a 1:1 ratio of the planes forward movement, then again, lift dynamics will not allow the plane to lift of. It would be the same as anchoring the front of the plane, leaving the engins shut off and then starting the conveyor. Without forward movement there will be no wind resistance thus no lift. Get on a treadmill and run as fast as you can.... Try to figure out the point you are running fast enough to feel the wind in your face.
It all depends on the conditions..... If you run the converor at a constant speed and try to overpower it, then yes..... you will find a plane with enough power to get up to speed. If you are matching the speed of the plane with the conveyor, then the plane is actually sitting still.
I don't deny or support..... Let's see what happens.
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