2025 Rumors
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Not the dumbest move for long term health but they're sacrificing market share in the short term.
I imagine 2025 units will start to move this week when people realize they could get the same exact sled for a good sized discount. There will be minimal spring orders so they can taper production down and live off the existing inventory.
It's a double edged sword because if you're sold on snow checking this year and expect something new and shiny, you'll be looking at that summit x or expert
I imagine 2025 units will start to move this week when people realize they could get the same exact sled for a good sized discount. There will be minimal spring orders so they can taper production down and live off the existing inventory.
It's a double edged sword because if you're sold on snow checking this year and expect something new and shiny, you'll be looking at that summit x or expert
It's survive or die with covid free money being gone.
You forgot the new handlebar bag!
You mean "Polaris New"........AKA The copy of the Sled Solutions Handlebar E-Series Quick Lock handle bar bag we have had for years now. LOL
I'm a Polaris guy but even I shake my head at some of the stuff they do and what they call "New" ideas.
Just like them finally making a narrow front end Switchback Assault. The same thing we have been doing to them since they came out. Nice original thinking there boys. LOLOLOL
with market cap down 7 billion and share price in the tank i never expected much. sales are going to be pretty much non existent at those prices. scary stuff!
I think my snowchecking days are over. Prices are completely out to lunch now so I will probably just keep buying holdovers and add a bit of warranty to them for dealer cost.
Wow, what a nothingburger of an update. The rule should be if all you're releasing is cosmetic and/or accessories, you do a little press release and don't even bother trying to hype it. If they still want to keep up appearances, why not throw together a 34" snowcheck option? That said, it's not like they need anything to stay competitive. Doo shed a few pounds and came up with a coilover skid (finally closing in on the '11 Pro!); just a so-so update, but that was a big update by comparison. Still, I think the update a lot of people are looking for is "Hey, we went back to the drawing board and resolved our five biggest reliability issues." That might drive more sales than anything - assuming they actually did. Otherwise - as mentioned - it's not a market that's going to drive innovation. Hopefully an all-new chassis is nearing completion, but both they and Doo are indicating they're going to stretch what they've got as long as possible. And the irony that the most all-new sled on the market might cease production completely...
I'm betting for those few that are dropping 20k+ on a Snowcheck they like all the hype they can get. LOLOLOL
I have snowchecked a sled for either me or my wife every even year since 2014. 2026 was supposed to be my year. I see absolutely no reason to do so. Guess I'll keep riding my '22 ... Besides it's a cool color - way better than anything they are putting out for 2026. This will definitely help used prices.
I am definitely a holdover guy at this point.
That Carl's deal is pretty great.
Clutch kit + can + intake = ~$1500
So you're paying ~$1k more and getting $1500 worth in parts and no labor?
Clutch kit + can + intake = ~$1500
So you're paying ~$1k more and getting $1500 worth in parts and no labor?
Free labor*
Does the warranty really matter that much? I’d take a 30 ft/ 30 s warranty if the sled was reliable over a 10 yr warranty with an unreliable sled. Warranty will not pay for the helicopter ride out. It won’t make up for lost ride days whatsoever. AND, you don’t even know if you’re going to get warranty to pay for whatever work you get done.
The way it was explained to me was that you take the sled in, they work on it, then they decide if it’s going to be warrantied. They WILL NOT tell you beforehand if you are going to have to pay for the labor to investigate and diagnose the problem. So it’s a crapshoot, you might get warranty, or you might have to pay. This applies to stuff like the sled not pulling proper RPM. You know it needs a top end, cause you did a leak down test, but will Polaris cover it? Bring it in, they do the work, then you get either a bill for $0 or a bill for $3000, you won’t know till you try! My dealer also told me that Polaris will make them look at whether the sled has been overheated, and they will then deny any engine warranty, even way later.
So what good is warranty, really? I can fix stuff. I actually breathed a sigh of relief when the warranty on my boost was done. No more swapping the can, waiting a couple weeks to get into the dealer, worrying that the thing you hoped would be warrantied would instead cost you thousands.
I’ve had good experiences with warranty too, but I’d really appreciate reliability over warranty. My CRF450R came with no warranty, and I’ve never missed it, cause it’s dead reliable! Sure, sleds are operated in a harsher environment, etc, but some stuff is just ridiculous. Wiring that breaks when it’s cold, for example.
With full engines costing $5k+, turbos $2500+ I'd argue that warranty has real value. Let's say you have a 22 or 23 boost that's out of warranty now. If anything major fails, you're out half the value of the sled. So you either sell it broken for half price, or dump half the value back in, which would've gotten you a newer sled in warranty. Real conundrum.
But even more important than warranty is the quality of your dealer in advocating for your issue and prioritizing getting you back on snow.
But even more important than warranty is the quality of your dealer in advocating for your issue and prioritizing getting you back on snow.
I get both sides. I always choose extended warranty over parts & accessories or financing. Its peace of mind and good for resale. But I have only actually had warranty claims a couple times in my life, and never a major one. Every time I have felt like I would have just been better off ordering parts right away and fixing myself vs two trips to the dealer and no idea when I will have the sled back. Like Tim said it does you no good on the mountain, and as JH said it’s only as good as your dealer. The only thing on these sleds that really scares me is the ejecto primary. Motors and turbos seem to be excellent.
I totally agree with @TimG on the warranty. Some people get worked up any time they don't have a warranty and insurance on anything bigger than a toaster (actually, some people buy overpriced "protection plans" on that kind of thing too). I'd be fine with buying a new sled with no warranty except that everybody has issues, and you're benefiting from Poo's (or Doo's, or Cat's) cost if something major goes. But if I were down to a mythical choice between a sled that I know is built to a high standard with no warranty and one I know is just slapped together with a three or four-year warranty, I'm going with the former. It's too bad Polaris doesn't have better QC, because the 850 NA is a sled that could be dead-reliable if it was put together better. Lots of them pile on the miles, but I've also heard horror stories. Sometimes the quality of the product is so marginal and the repair costs are so high that extended coverage is a good value: a lot of major appliances are built so cheaply these days that making it five years is a win, for instance. The crisis of a failed fridge or dishwasher is nothing compared with a dead sled in the back-country though.
Now, an extended warranty is a good deal if it's thrown in or cheap enough. Even if we're not dealing with a problem child sled, it can be a value because of their cost versus your cost on parts. But they're generally a profit point off people who've "gotta have it." Just for me personally, because I like wrenching and have some idea what I'm doing, a warranty doesn't offer much more value - especially not when you factor in the back-and-forth with the dealer, potentially being denied a claim, and having no options if they're backed up, can't get parts, etc. For people who don't wrench, it's more difficult. I don't know what's happened, but there used to be small shops in every town who could handle anything on a sled, dirt bike, or ATV, and if you found a good one, you could rely on them. There are still some around, but most have disappeared. I don't know of anyone in Billings (town of 100,000+ people) other than the dealer who can crack open a P-85, for instance. Either way though, we shouldn't have to be second-guessing when we go deep into the woods or drop in somewhere you're not getting a dead sled out of.
Now, an extended warranty is a good deal if it's thrown in or cheap enough. Even if we're not dealing with a problem child sled, it can be a value because of their cost versus your cost on parts. But they're generally a profit point off people who've "gotta have it." Just for me personally, because I like wrenching and have some idea what I'm doing, a warranty doesn't offer much more value - especially not when you factor in the back-and-forth with the dealer, potentially being denied a claim, and having no options if they're backed up, can't get parts, etc. For people who don't wrench, it's more difficult. I don't know what's happened, but there used to be small shops in every town who could handle anything on a sled, dirt bike, or ATV, and if you found a good one, you could rely on them. There are still some around, but most have disappeared. I don't know of anyone in Billings (town of 100,000+ people) other than the dealer who can crack open a P-85, for instance. Either way though, we shouldn't have to be second-guessing when we go deep into the woods or drop in somewhere you're not getting a dead sled out of.
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