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I totally agree with @TimG on the warranty. Some people get worked up any time they don't have a warranty and insurance on anything bigger than a toaster (actually, some people buy overpriced "protection plans" on that kind of thing too). I'd be fine with buying a new sled with no warranty except that everybody has issues, and you're benefiting from Poo's (or Doo's, or Cat's) cost if something major goes. But if I were down to a mythical choice between a sled that I know is built to a high standard with no warranty and one I know is just slapped together with a three or four-year warranty, I'm going with the former. It's too bad Polaris doesn't have better QC, because the 850 NA is a sled that could be dead-reliable if it was put together better. Lots of them pile on the miles, but I've also heard horror stories. Sometimes the quality of the product is so marginal and the repair costs are so high that extended coverage is a good value: a lot of major appliances are built so cheaply these days that making it five years is a win, for instance. The crisis of a failed fridge or dishwasher is nothing compared with a dead sled in the back-country though.

Now, an extended warranty is a good deal if it's thrown in or cheap enough. Even if we're not dealing with a problem child sled, it can be a value because of their cost versus your cost on parts. But they're generally a profit point off people who've "gotta have it." Just for me personally, because I like wrenching and have some idea what I'm doing, a warranty doesn't offer much more value - especially not when you factor in the back-and-forth with the dealer, potentially being denied a claim, and having no options if they're backed up, can't get parts, etc. For people who don't wrench, it's more difficult. I don't know what's happened, but there used to be small shops in every town who could handle anything on a sled, dirt bike, or ATV, and if you found a good one, you could rely on them. There are still some around, but most have disappeared. I don't know of anyone in Billings (town of 100,000+ people) other than the dealer who can crack open a P-85, for instance. Either way though, we shouldn't have to be second-guessing when we go deep into the woods or drop in somewhere you're not getting a dead sled out of.
Exactly the point. It’s not that warranty has no value, it does, but not as much value as just having it good and reliable in the first place. For instance, my turbo started on fire one day. Sure, I was glad for the warranty, no question. But even better would’ve been if it never happened. Of course, nothing is perfect, mountain sleds get used hard… but then again, back to all the CRF450s I’ve owned over the years. They haven’t had easy lives, I hillclimb in sand. They’ve boiled over a million times. Cartwheeled down the hill, again and again. Boiled over more, till I just ignore the boiling and keep hitting the hill cause I’m on a mission. Then after a while the boiling stops (nothing left to boil). Kept riding. Wiped out water skipping, water in the crankcase. Kept riding. 3rd gear starts when drag racing, with a 10 paddle. Wide open in St. Anthony, drag racing for a week straight. 14.5:1 compression piston, custom cam, porting. They suck in through the exhaust a bit (little known fact), so there’s always sand going thru the motor, always sand in the air boot.

And I have never had one give any trouble at all. They are just perpetually dead reliable. I’ve had them suck enough sand thru the exhaust that the valves won’t seal and the bike won’t start, but I just tore the head off and cleaned the sand out of the valves, put it back together and kept going. And that was my fault, anyways, not the bike’s, for letting it slide backwards down the hill and filling the exhaust with sand. And when you do tear it down to do a top end, just to be a decent person? Mine looked brand new, every time. Dealer has crazy stories about hundreds of hours without an oil change, tore it down, piston was perfect. Never found myself wishing for warranty on one of those!!
 
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