14 pro bully dog silber bogging
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If my memory serves me correctly, the new controller hype claimed that was history. Remember this thread.
http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352908&highlight=BullyDog
Funny thing, I forgot already about that thread. I feel bad for the optimistic bunch that bought into that Bully Dog program. In saying that, if I hadnt owned a older Silber kit in the past I might have bought in myself. Once bitten twice shy. I went Boost it HO kit this year. Awesome!! He did the R&D not me. Thanks Neil & TJ
For what it’s worth,
I worked on a 13’ Pro this weekend. Noticed as I rode lots of air “hissing” noise coming out of the intake. We investigate the BOV and found it was probably sticking open.
It had lots of scoring from opening and closing. I think the stock BOV design is marginal – the piston does not have enough side contact area so it cocks to the side and scrapes the housing walls and getting jammed.
We cleaned it ups as much as we could and took it for another ride and the constant “Hissing” sound was dramatically less and the sled ran much better.
I think the BOV was sticking open most of the time. So, we ordered a replacement from Forge Motorsports in Orlando FL – part number 2FMDV004-A. I am hoping it arrives today for testing.
J
jeepin270
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Nice find. It looks really similar to my low psi wastegate, could be same company. Did you speak to them over the phone and discuss how soft we need the springs due to not having much vacuum?
I called and spoke with a guy named Maison. Explained the issue, sent him a pic, turbo size, discussed the boost levels, horse power, etc.... He recommended the spring setting that was appropriate for the boost levels the kit can produce. Just a side note, From the picture, he thought the current BOV was undersized.
Actually the Bullydog is waterproof. with that being said there have been a few that have somehow gotten water in them. but yes they are waterproof and they can be used as a gauge to monitor and data log your rides if needed.
Ha ha my bully dog display is definitely not water proof. First ride out it got wet and was freaking out. I dont keep it hooked up any more while riding unless I need to check something for a few minutes.
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what was it doing when it was freaking out. the buttons on them are compacitive touch buttons. if they get water on them they will freak out. but as far as the inside and the board goes. they are water proof.
Oh ok, makes sense, I didnt think about that. It definitely had water and snow on it and it was changing screens and flashing. Anyway, so it isnt wrecked and it still works fine after it got dryed off again. But I dont really care about that. I just wanna have my sled run right......
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this thing is bigger than just a small glitch, come on give us some info on a fix or at least let us know whats happening. I don't think a simple we are working on it is gonna satisfy anyone. I helped a few friends decide on justins kit. well i hope they will still be friends. come on justin respond with something……..wtf
My bov had some scrapes on its piston sides. Also thinking about buying a new bov. What setting did he recommend on the Forge valve?
He is focusing on the solution and I am making sure folks are updated with the status. What do you want him to say? That he is trying to identify why 140 run great and 20 don't? That he still working to identify whats going on? That he spent 7 days dedicated to this and it worked great for the sleds he custom tuned but the map didn't work on other sleds? That hopefully he has something soon?
I don't see the benefit of Justin being on the forums right now. I want him in the shop and on a sled figuring this out.
I have been completely honest and forthcoming and am in constant communication with Justin. This is a huge deal for me as I get to talk to all the frustrated folks and believe me, when there is a solid diagnosis or fix you all will be the first to know.
J
jay_boom
Active member
My bov had some scrapes on its piston sides. Also thinking about buying a new bov. What setting did he recommend on the Forge valve?
On the forge website the recommended spring for that BOV is the green spring rated for 5-15 psi
J
jeepin270
Well-known member
I bet those #'s are way off. Only 20 kits having issues? More like half the kits are having issues. I am only referring to the pro kits. An if it is only 20, y hasn't Justin sent out dobek boxes so these people can ride safely???? He needs to address the problem now and stop dragging it out. If he can't figure it out then they should be compensated with some type of controller until he does. I spent 2yrs waiting for him to download a map in my dobek box that would run. When I complained on here I got flamed by all his cheerleaders. An to this day, I still haven't been able to purchase upgrades to my kit....
Justin told me the sleds he custom tuned didn't work again the next day. And if he customers tune fixes it then why isn't he taking datalogues from us and making.new tunes.
Boston Racing, I previously asked in an old post if you could list the parts that you have swapped from a good running sled without success. As you stated you have swapped almost everything. Do you think you could help us out? There a lot of people trying things, but obviously yourselves and Justin have the best resources. Have you actually tried injectors from good sled, cause this problem is similar to when Polaris had there issue with stock injectors and is a part no one else likely has. I suggested it to Justin a month ago but he still says he hasnt done it. Plus it's a component that can't be proved ok without swapping with known good ones.
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Yes I have swapped injectors and the injectors from the bad one worked great on mine. The customer realized it had to be something with the sled, bought another 13 and we moved the same kit and ecu over and it runs great.
That's the part that has everybody stumped.
That's the part that has everybody stumped.
I ride with 2 2013's and a 14 every weekend and they run great but ski breezes doesn't. I installed all 4 kits. I'm gonna take his out and see if I ran get to the bottom of it.
I get called several times a day with people saying they all have the same problem as so and so on snowest and then go on to describe something totally different. We have got several sleds running better with just simple troubleshooting. The biggest one I get is people turning 7800-7900 rpm's. Lighten up the weights to run 8200 and bam, problem solved. I spend hours a day trying to help people and the truth is most of the time I'm not helping troubleshoot the kit...........I know what those are and won't have you try thing I do not believe will work.
I get called several times a day with people saying they all have the same problem as so and so on snowest and then go on to describe something totally different. We have got several sleds running better with just simple troubleshooting. The biggest one I get is people turning 7800-7900 rpm's. Lighten up the weights to run 8200 and bam, problem solved. I spend hours a day trying to help people and the truth is most of the time I'm not helping troubleshoot the kit...........I know what those are and won't have you try thing I do not believe will work.
