08 Tundra 5.7 ????
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Dano702
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Jaynelson
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Are you on glue? All of your money will NOT be going to a Japanese CEO....said money has to pay your salesman, his manager, the dealer's GM, the service deparment, the Toyota US head office people, the trucker who transported it to the dealer, the people in the US plant that built it.....get the picture?My point was , Rick Wagoner makes 6-9 Mil a year. He pays income tax on 6-9 Mil per year . The CEO in japan pays zero dollars income tax to the US . If Rick Wagoner and Robert Lutz spend every penny of there multi million dollar salary's in other countries ,they pay income tax on all of that income none the less.
If i send all of my money to Japan , none of those CEO's pay income tax to the USA. None of that money will go to pay for freeways,schools,bridges,snowplows,ect,ect,ect.
What part of this is so hard to understand? If you send all of your money some where else , those funds wont be there to build the new school your kid would of got to go to . Your kid will get to stay in the old school , no income tax dollars from offshore CEO's.
You're making it sound like all this money winds up in one person's pocket to do as he pleases. Lets say it does....is that necessarily a bad thing? Toyota is opening plants and employing new Americans, and the domestic brands are closing them and laying people off. Toyota has more efficient processes, and can sell good vehicles for the same price, but make much MORE money off of them. That, in turn, keeps more people employed and stimulates the economy and pays more taxes. Hell, the taxes Toyota USA pays are the very same ones that subsidize flailing US automakers when they get close to tanking....
Like I say, buy what you like, that's totally cool.....but these justifications are just wrong and downright weird.
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I read most of this post but it is long.
I had the option of getting a toyota or a new body style gmc sierra.
I ended up going with the sierra. Gas in BC is $1.25 per litre and climbing. I have a boat which weighs nearly 3200lbs and tow often. I drop in fuel economy but no too much. I am also running 22" wheels with 325/40-22's which also rob a bit of power. I have a k&n cold air intake and a superchips tuner.
I am getting more and more impressed with the gmc truck. On the highway i'm getting over 700 km to 90 litres of fuel with the 22's. Close to 800 with the 20's. The truck handles great with the sport suspension package and stays really flat in the corners.
When test driving the tundra i found some cheap things in the interior. The door pockets, plastic heater knobs, body roll, plastic insert on top of the grille etc. I like the tundra but I like the sierra better, and at 10 miles to a gallon I will keep the GMC. Great on fuel and personally like the looks better too.
Chaz
Sweet truck , that is my next ride . I wish i was driving a GMT 900!
thank you. And i dont think he though my second comment was very funny, dang....
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Dano702
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You people never cease to amaze , i am sitting here with my mouth open. Are you from Sacramento?
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Jaynelson
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^ Are you really dense enough to think that a CEO's salary is even a drop in the bucket compared to paying tax on the type of profit Toyota turns IN THE USA?? Maybe they changed something and no one told me, but last I checked a company gets TAXED on its profits....moreso than a company with less, little, or no profit. Toyota USA is a US company, it pays tax like GM....right now, it pays a lot more because it is MUCH more profitable.
I'm not sure what accounting class you took, but I'd ask for my money back.....
I'm not sure what accounting class you took, but I'd ask for my money back.....
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Dano702
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I am not a CPA , i have to pay for that every year. I have nothing to add you have said it all , enjoy your coolaid.
Profits for public companies go to the shareholders, shareholders live all over the world. Get off the profits go to the country crap already.
Another thing for you so-called domestic auto supporters, your not supporting them unless you pay at or near MSRP for the vehicle (like Toy and Honda owners do). You guys getting thousands off MSRP and then saying you support them is insane. That's not support, that is taking advantage of them, kicking them when their down. The average Toyota and Honda is discounted $800, the average domestic discount needed to get people to buy them is $3500. The big 3 are at a $2700 disatvantage per vehicle because you guys refuse to support them, that's the difference between making billions or losing billions.
Look at China, GM is doing vantastic in China because people are paying at or near MSRP for GM Vehicles. Ford is doing great in South America for the same reasons. Chrysler...we won't talk about them.
You ain't a supporter unless they make a profit from ya, they ain't making any profits on US soil.
Another thing for you so-called domestic auto supporters, your not supporting them unless you pay at or near MSRP for the vehicle (like Toy and Honda owners do). You guys getting thousands off MSRP and then saying you support them is insane. That's not support, that is taking advantage of them, kicking them when their down. The average Toyota and Honda is discounted $800, the average domestic discount needed to get people to buy them is $3500. The big 3 are at a $2700 disatvantage per vehicle because you guys refuse to support them, that's the difference between making billions or losing billions.
Look at China, GM is doing vantastic in China because people are paying at or near MSRP for GM Vehicles. Ford is doing great in South America for the same reasons. Chrysler...we won't talk about them.
You ain't a supporter unless they make a profit from ya, they ain't making any profits on US soil.
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dip$hit, idiot, stupid .... wow, hope you didn't hurt the pee brain of yours thinking of that witty retort right there buddy.... and I fixed your add remark for ya
You are right...I bought a new truck that I have not pulled with before...hence the NEW part... and then I ask for feedback from people WHO HAVE pulled with this type of truck WHICH YOU HAVE NOT yet you feel the overwhelming need to justify your purchase buy bashing mine.... HMMMM lets see who is the mature one here???? LOL
Not sure which thread you are reading? I have posted 9 times now in a 130 posts, only 5 of them in response you you and none of them really "bashing" anything. I don't care what you bought, sure I think you were $tupid for buying a Tundra to save money on fuel, cause it isn't gonna work. That is your problem though, and since you don't own the discourse going on here I think myself and a dozn other guys who don't agree with you have every right to post our thoughts on the subject.
I wish I could have come up with a much wittier response for you, maybe I could have used some gems like you came up with...azzhat, baglapper and pillow biter, all priceless beauties that definately demonstrate your infinate maturity and intelligence.
Enjoy your Tundra
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Again, you continue to prove my point.... At NO time did I request, ask for or other wise insinuate I wanted needed or cared what you thought about my purchase. This was not the subject of this thread at all.... or did I miss something? My original post states:
"My question is who is pulling with this truck? How does it handle a 4 place enclosed?"
Am I missing something here???? does that really mean.... I would like to hear from anyone who thinks I was dumb for buying a Toyota because your so called American made truck is far superior to a Toyota????? Wow I will try and be a little clearer next time as to what information I am looking for.
And Thanks, I am very much so enjoying the Tundra so far... 60 bucks to fill it VS the 120 to fill the cummins and I still have a 1/2 tank where as I would be scouting for the $4.10 diesel station now with the old truck...
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THis is for the post up here where i am from. well this sums it up!
THis is for the post up here where i am from. well this sums it up!
You could just choose to read the parts that DO answer your question. Since this is a public forum with thousands of participants, I am not sure where you got the impression that your question would be directly and succinctly answered with no other comments. I don't think I have ever seen that happen on this, or most any other forum for that matter. Had you just read the ones that applied instead of choosing to rant on all of the others, you probably could lower your blood pressure by several points
Those numbers don't sound right to me, my wife has the Dodge Magnum with the MDS Hemi, and it get's no where near that kind of mileage.
BP is just fine but thanks for your concern.
It is obvious you and apparently the masses don't remember the days on here when you Could ask a question and believe it or not get responses that actually pertained to what you were asking about. Anymore it doesn't matter how valid the topic, it is only a matter of time before some one feels the need to bash the topic with their one sided, narrow minded, self centered opinion.
I think it is great you and everyone else enjoys their truck purchase, but I did not ask to hear about it... had I wanted to, then I would have started a thread titled "Please Tell me how much you like your truck". You say I could chose to read through the 130 post on here and only take away the knowledge that pertains to my original question and your right I have done that... on the same hand why couldn't you and 120 other post have looked at the title and said "Geez I don't own a Tundra, therefore I have nothing to add to this post." and moved on? What is it that compels people to spout off on every single thread even though they have zero value to add? Are they getting paid for each post they make? Do they simply like to hear themselves type? I’m sorry I just don’t get it.
It is obvious you and apparently the masses don't remember the days on here when you Could ask a question and believe it or not get responses that actually pertained to what you were asking about. Anymore it doesn't matter how valid the topic, it is only a matter of time before some one feels the need to bash the topic with their one sided, narrow minded, self centered opinion.
I think it is great you and everyone else enjoys their truck purchase, but I did not ask to hear about it... had I wanted to, then I would have started a thread titled "Please Tell me how much you like your truck". You say I could chose to read through the 130 post on here and only take away the knowledge that pertains to my original question and your right I have done that... on the same hand why couldn't you and 120 other post have looked at the title and said "Geez I don't own a Tundra, therefore I have nothing to add to this post." and moved on? What is it that compels people to spout off on every single thread even though they have zero value to add? Are they getting paid for each post they make? Do they simply like to hear themselves type? I’m sorry I just don’t get it.
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I have looked at other sites.... Just thought, who better to ask about pulling a 4 place snowmobile trailer than snowmobilers? CRAZY I know.... 
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Jaynelson
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LOL....I was going to post a good Toyota board before, but got caught up in the bickering, here ya go good reading;
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/towing/index2/
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/towing/index2/
I have a gravel crusher I need to move. Will my Tundra pull it?
