What will you do with all your equipment when snowmobiling is banned?

[Dogmeat]

If we could just keep the dumbest 30% of us off of the internet the PR problem would be solved....but then this very forum would lose half it's membership.

Dogmeat, my (as yet, unmet) friend. Move to AK.

You can ride from your front door in most communities (except Anchorage) and the riding is, well, you've seen the pictures.

We got jobs too!

As to your question? Woe be unto any AK politican who to votes to ban snowmachining....they'll just end up out of office with a tracked up lawn.

What prompted me about this thread is how the USFS basically enacted a de facto wilderness standard by way of regulations via a travel plan in Western MT recently. This conveniently allows them to designate lands as wilderness without having to go through that nasty little process of getting congressional approval, so they can basically designate wilderness via travel management plans in the areas its politically popular to do so. I don't think AK will suffer near as much as the lower 48 will from these actions.

 

[plumnuts]

how many of you whinners give to the Blue Ribbon Coalition? or is your plan just to roll over and hope you get a kiss before you get....

 

[Dogmeat]

how many of you whinners give to the Blue Ribbon Coalition? or is your plan just to roll over and hope you get a kiss before you get....

Yeah, I'm a lifetime member.

 

[sledheadjake]

Right now we have the same problem where I live, they are trying to shut down the rest of the selkirk mountains for the caribou that dont live here, they already shut down 3/4 of the range a few years ago, enough is never enough for these tree huggin, caribou humpin enviro crazies!I will fight the fight until there is no more to fight for!There is no way in he!! I am going to let them take away from me and my future generations what is our right and our land to recrecrate responisibly on and enjoy.If it is ever illegal everywhere well then ill still ride screw them!

 

[Dogmeat]

Guys, I guess the other thing that prompted this -

If they decide to ban this, all the big popular areas ... RE, Snowies, IP, all that stuff .... is going to have armed tree cops on patrol with kevlar vests and MP5's on their shoulders.

I've seen this before ....

I mean we can all claim "we're still going to ride" but the realistic view of that is that while one or two folks that live in the more remote areas might be able to sneak out of their back yards and get some riding in, most all of us won't, especially those of us who typically ride at the more popular areas. There will be tree cops crawling all over them like maggots on a month old ham thats been sitting in the sun.

I mean you can claim "yeah they can't catch me" but the reality of it is, yes, they can and will, and if for whatever reason they don't, ditching them via riding is only going to result in your truck and/or trailer being towed off before you get back to the lot.

I mean in all honesty, the more I read about this crap they just pulled off with the clearwater forest is just the tip of the ice berg, they are gonna start pulling that crap everywhere next year ....

IDK, I guess we can all stick our heads in the sand and talk big, but we're screwed. We lost.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

It also doesn't help when ignorant people post idiotic vids like this on youtube and fan the fire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWIeQ7C_EOA&feature=related

How about you take that video down PJthemunchkin

You should be ashamed of yourself.

This^^^ x100

i always thought this PJ kid was a creep on this forum, but that video takes it to another level

yeah, that video was kinda sad, if you're gonna take out a cayote ( which i support) do it with a friggin gun, not by killin it slowly.

a good arguement though:

theres a 2ft base limit. sleds dont touch the ground. we're off the land anyways!

oh, and that was a snowbike. BAN THE SNOBIKES!!!

Just tell PJ to remove it or ??????????

WHOA! Stop right there! That vid is not mine! I don't have a Snowbike and anybody that knows me can vouche for that. I have NEVER chased wildlife on a ATV, Sled, truck, car or bike (tracked or wheeled). Also, that vid was taken in Idaho and I have never even been in that state. I saw that video a year or so ago and I blasted the guy that posted it. Why it's posted on a PJtheMunchkin1 account, I don't know. I am trying to remove it but Youtube says that it's not my account. I do have a customer service complaint submitted to them and I am just waiting for a reply again.

I can swear to any one of you on my own life and everything I hold dear to me, that I don't participate or condone any of that crap. I am also a lifetime member of the BRC, I am a member of SAWS, and a member of the Colorado Snowmobile Association along with several local club memberships.

So before you people continue to assume and make accusations, check into things first. Why there is a PJtheMunchkin1 YouTube account floors me. I don't ever post vids there, watch them yes, but never post. I will continue to dig into this and find out why that vid is linked to a username that I used to have on the forums.

 

[Boston Racing]

PJthemunchkin...........I hope you understand why the finger is pointed at you.

I guess it may be a popular name

 

[PJ-Hunter]

PJthemunchkin...........I hope you understand why the finger is pointed at you.

I guess it may be a popular name

My Youtube account is PJtheMunchkin. If any of you were to look closer you would see that the username for that vid that was posted is PJtheMunchkin1.

I have been in contact with YouTube and they are investigating the account for fraud and impersonation. I have provided them with all of the proper credentials that they require to do this.

Once I find out who,what,when and why this account was created, I will do everything I can to find and paired with Youtube agents, charges for impersonation will be sought after. I am waiting to see what YT says.

Any one of you are more than welcome to view my YT profile. I am subscribed to one channel and that is it. That channel is lshobie.

I have not posted any vids.

And let it be known, impersonation is against the law. Especially when the impersonation is hurting one person, his reputation and potentially his family. Once the account is investigated and if the identity of the fraudulent account is discovered, I can and will have charges pressed.

I may be a bigmouth and an opinionated As$, but I am not a racist, I am not into harassing wildlife, abusing animals, I am not into drugs, theft, rape or murder. All I am is a bigmouth. I love sledding as much as everysingle one of you and I'd never do anything to damage my chances of riding, and that includes posting vids of animal harassment.

So give YouTube and me some time to get this sorted out and I will keep you posted. And please, next time you wanna shoot first and ask questions later, read further into the details. FYI, I cannot even remotely touch that account in question. It has an email that is and has not ever been mine. I checked my actual account and it has not been touched since 8/2/11. It remains as I created it.

 

[tymetoride]

We launched a campaign to have that vid taken off Youtube last year...and it happened. Too bad it's back. Everyone can make their move to report it and get Youtube to pull it again.

Well... as far as I know It is legal to chase coyotes in Montana. Not sure where this video was taken... we have coyote hunts in Montana (central and eastern part) all through the winter and I have never heard of anyone ever getting in trouble for chasing them on sleds and 4 wheelers, and dirt bikes, and I just spent the morning looking through regulations and laws... They are considered a predator.... not like elk and deer and moose which are protected from wildlife harassment. I agree... may not be the best thing for the "cause" posting these videos but still legal. My thoughts... dislike the tree huggers as much as the next guy... if we would actually get a real winter like we used to in Montana, it may help to push them back to where they came from! I don't mind people moving to this state, but don't come here and tell us how to live... leave that for the spot you grew up in. Oh... and VOTE OBAMA OUT!


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[PJ-Hunter]

As you can see this has already been flagged, thru no doing of my own. So somebody thought they were being funny on March of 2011.

If any of you want clarification or more info, please ask, either here or PM. I am not hiding anything and I will do what I can to clarify and prove that I had no part in this. Thank you for understanding.

 

[Boston Racing]

Maybe the dude did it to piss you off....

 

[smokindave]

The origonal poster of the vid used the user name lasaljim,he has been banned from here.
When he first posted a link to Youtube the video was under Jethro450.
I would say the one using your name Ralph is this Jethro450 dude.
Search his vids on Youtube.
I am sure I still have his email address....

 

[PJ-Hunter]

Maybe the dude did it to piss you off....

Well, it worked. But what I am more pissed about is the fact that all of you actually thought I did it. When I have never posted in any manner to support wildlife abuse. My mouth may flap alot, but when it comes down to sledding, hunting, fishing or whatever outdoor use I love to do, I am nothing but ethical.

The origonal poster of the vid used the user name lasaljim,he has been banned from here.
When he first posted a link to Youtube the video was under Jethro450.
I would say the one using your name Ralph is this Jethro450 dude.
Search his vids on Youtube.
I am sure I still have his email address....

Thank you. Please PM that info to me so I can pass it on to Youtube.

 

[revrider07]

Hard financial times are coming for the govt. They will be forced to cut there employees and park rangers will be some of the first area's cut I can't wait for this to happen. To many regs nation wide not enough money to police all of them it will happen. There will be private clubs for rideing that take care of trail grooming it will be like tol roads pay to ride every day. The trails will be in better condition than they are today since the states have taken over different trails for maint they have gotten worse. imo

 

[ruffryder]

Hard financial times are coming for the govt. They will be forced to cut there employees and park rangers will be some of the first area's cut I can't wait for this to happen. To many regs nation wide not enough money to police all of them it will happen. There will be private clubs for rideing that take care of trail grooming it will be like tol roads pay to ride every day. The trails will be in better condition than they are today since the states have taken over different trails for maint they have gotten worse. imo

This coupled with snowmobilers being a source of funds could be a way to make riding in the future still happen.

 

[hatchers]

my apologies to PJ, maybe the original owner of said video disliks PJ for bashing it, thus original video owner made a fake user account as payback????

 

[PJ-Hunter]

Just got the impersonation investigation ticket number from YT

 

[tudizzle]

right on PJ...saw the vid and meant to stick up for ya. Noticed it was a variation of your real name and it was the only video posted...plus you don't have a snow bike....or could ride one like that either.

I remember you even speaking out against it when it originally surfaced? Probably drawing that persons attention.



Hopefully it will disappear...but until then we know the truth.

 

[TIM]

What prompted me about this thread is how the USFS basically enacted a de facto wilderness standard by way of regulations via a travel plan in Western MT recently.

I mean in all honesty, the more I read about this crap they just pulled off with the clearwater forest is just the tip of the ice berg, they are gonna start pulling that crap everywhere next year ....

one suggestion would be to go to meetings and speak with facts not rhetoric.
Case in point, the clearwater is in idaho not montana. If we are going to beat the greenies, it is not with rhetoric, but with logical, factual info. We need to get our ducks in a row and no what the designations mean and not give up.

When was the last time you went to more than one forest service meeting in a year? get involved speak your mind, but know what you are talking about. Big blowhards don't help, not knocking you dogmeat. But at last nights meeting there was a bunch of that.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

Thanks Dizz. That does mean alot. And you are right, I can't ride a snowbike that well. I fall over way too much. Even on a regular dirtbike, I just do the bikes for fun.

And the rest: My dirtbike is a 2s Honda. I'd never own a 4s, let alone a KTM.