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What is the purpose of Law Enforcement?
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Plain old idiot drivers kill like 10X as many people but they get a ticket MAYBE but if you had three beers you go to prison.
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Holy $hit that is pathetic. He should not have his job.
...and to answer your question skidoorrulz...I would rather have my wife and child go unmolested by the police. Ya that's all I need is the cops making my wife do a field sobriety test with my sons in the car.
If you want to live in Nazi Germany go find somewhere that will accommodate you. This is America, we have something called due process, not random process.
I certainly don't want anyone hurt by a drunk driver. It is the everyone's responsibility to call them in. I certainly don't want checkpoints all over the roads for possible crimes. Do you see what I am getting at? Where does it stop? Cops are now creating road blocks under federal directions to collect DNA samples as well. Of course it is "voluntary." They are testing the waters in order to create an even stronger police state.
5 years ago I might have agreed with you because I was blinded by my profession as a law enforcement officer. I now think about how many crimes with real victims do cops deal with. Most of their job is dealing with victimless crimes. Then when there is a real crime involving a victim they don't do that much. It took me some time to accept that it is true. There are good cops that only want to focus on crimes involving victims, not a whole lot.
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Understandable, but have you ever heard of vehicular manslaughter?? Hardly a ticket. Point of driving intoxicated is people make the choice to do it. So if you choose to do it, you choose to accept the consequences that will come along if you get caught. Don't get me wrong, not saying I am perfect and have never done it (in fact used to do it way to much). However, I always knew going into it if I got caught it would be my a$$, and nobody's fault but my own.
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To reply to Mafesto's original post....
In my person experience, there has been no purpose at all other than revenue generation. I have good friends who are RCMP or local cops and they are great guys; the problem (in general) is not with the individuals; rather the system itself.
Traffic violations and DUI's seem to be the only areas of substantial focus. I hate to say this with regard to DUI laws, because I know many people have been impacted by this BUT.....IMO, the wasted guy who slams into the bus full of kids does not care what the laws are. He has probably had DUI's already, he may not even have a licence, and it does not matter if the limit is zero, .05 or .08 because he is going to be triple any reasonable number. The poor basterd who has 3 beers after work, gets pinched at a checkstop and gets his life ruined, is not the guy out there killing people.
I do not live in fear of people speeding 10 or 20 over on the highway, or rolling stop signs. Things that do concern me on the roads....such as un-maintained POS cars, bald tires, texting, and general retarded driving....seem to go un-policed anyways. So given that, I'd rather just take my chances and not be harassed trying to make some time on a road-trip.
I have wanted the help of law enforcement exactly twice in my life. Years ago, my girl's ex-boyfriend went off the deep end and was stalking her, and waiting in the bushes at her house with a weapon and his crazy brother trying to jump us. Another time, we happened upon a drug deal going down and wound up in a car chase trying to get away from the dudes. Both times we felt genuinely threatened, we had a ton of good info to give the cops, and wanted to see someone get in some trouble. Both times, the cops were 100% totally and completely useless and uninterested. Could not have been less helpful, IMO. If a similar matter were to come up again, I would skip going to the cops entirely....either just to save my breath, or to take up the cause myself.
The fact that I got in more trouble for a seatbelt ticket than the ex-BF got for waiting on my girl's property and trying to attack us just blows my damn mind....and pretty much answers Mafesto's question for me.
Another guy I know has been busted with an entire house full of weed twice. Now, I don't have a huge problem with weed itself. However, you are talking about a guy making his entire income off an illegal product, and completely evading the tax system. Both times, the guy was home before dinner. These days in BC....40km/h over the speed limit and the impound your car for a week, huge fine, court, yada yada. More trouble for speeding than for tax evasion of your entire yearly income. Yup....glad my taxes are going to good use
Losers I went to high school with that have never had a job in 10 years cause they are busy dealing coke. The cops know exactly who they are, everyone does....never get busted. Cops say they let them go to try and catch the "bigger fish." Really? That has become the biggest BS excuse out there....I think the translation is "we don't want to do the paperwork and will screw it up and lose in court anyways." WE PAY YOU to bust criminals. We DON'T pay you to let people make their entire lifetime income, tax free, peddling illegal products and stealing my sh!t.
The people who pay the most taxes, have the most to lose, and get hassled the most by the law. That is the modern reality. Where is the disconnect?
In my person experience, there has been no purpose at all other than revenue generation. I have good friends who are RCMP or local cops and they are great guys; the problem (in general) is not with the individuals; rather the system itself.
Traffic violations and DUI's seem to be the only areas of substantial focus. I hate to say this with regard to DUI laws, because I know many people have been impacted by this BUT.....IMO, the wasted guy who slams into the bus full of kids does not care what the laws are. He has probably had DUI's already, he may not even have a licence, and it does not matter if the limit is zero, .05 or .08 because he is going to be triple any reasonable number. The poor basterd who has 3 beers after work, gets pinched at a checkstop and gets his life ruined, is not the guy out there killing people.
I do not live in fear of people speeding 10 or 20 over on the highway, or rolling stop signs. Things that do concern me on the roads....such as un-maintained POS cars, bald tires, texting, and general retarded driving....seem to go un-policed anyways. So given that, I'd rather just take my chances and not be harassed trying to make some time on a road-trip.
I have wanted the help of law enforcement exactly twice in my life. Years ago, my girl's ex-boyfriend went off the deep end and was stalking her, and waiting in the bushes at her house with a weapon and his crazy brother trying to jump us. Another time, we happened upon a drug deal going down and wound up in a car chase trying to get away from the dudes. Both times we felt genuinely threatened, we had a ton of good info to give the cops, and wanted to see someone get in some trouble. Both times, the cops were 100% totally and completely useless and uninterested. Could not have been less helpful, IMO. If a similar matter were to come up again, I would skip going to the cops entirely....either just to save my breath, or to take up the cause myself.
The fact that I got in more trouble for a seatbelt ticket than the ex-BF got for waiting on my girl's property and trying to attack us just blows my damn mind....and pretty much answers Mafesto's question for me.
Another guy I know has been busted with an entire house full of weed twice. Now, I don't have a huge problem with weed itself. However, you are talking about a guy making his entire income off an illegal product, and completely evading the tax system. Both times, the guy was home before dinner. These days in BC....40km/h over the speed limit and the impound your car for a week, huge fine, court, yada yada. More trouble for speeding than for tax evasion of your entire yearly income. Yup....glad my taxes are going to good use
Losers I went to high school with that have never had a job in 10 years cause they are busy dealing coke. The cops know exactly who they are, everyone does....never get busted. Cops say they let them go to try and catch the "bigger fish." Really? That has become the biggest BS excuse out there....I think the translation is "we don't want to do the paperwork and will screw it up and lose in court anyways." WE PAY YOU to bust criminals. We DON'T pay you to let people make their entire lifetime income, tax free, peddling illegal products and stealing my sh!t.
The people who pay the most taxes, have the most to lose, and get hassled the most by the law. That is the modern reality. Where is the disconnect?
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MPS
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That is exactly what I mean when I say cops hardly help when there are real victims involved. I hear stuff like this all the time. I am not a cop hater...I busted by *** to do what was right when in law enforcement, but many have lost the real mission of being a cop...protecting the citizens who pay them.
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Jaynelson
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I totally agree. I do not wish to blindly hate on cops either. I have great friends who are cops and lightly explored the idea of being one out of highschool. Like way too many jobs these days....the idea is noble enough...but the reality is, all the time/money gets burned up in paperwork, red-tape, and mundane daily BS.
I believe the vast majority of cops have good intentions. Unfortunately, I also believe that between their training, mis-managed government budgets, a certain percentage of the population that wastes all their time, and certain pointless laws/projects....they never have a chance to carry out their job as they originally envisioned it. Over time, the organizations and individuals do what most people do when things are all f'd up....and take the path of least resistance.
Thing is (me and Mafesto got in to this in another thread), the way they operate today really leaves the door open for vigilantism, IMO. I think it's a great idea in theory....if the cops can't take care of the people, let the people take care of themselves. Problem is....use most of us guys as an example....you have too much to lose when the law turns on you. You have a family, a job, house, truck, stuff to do, etc, etc....well, plus you might get stabbed or something. But when the law sees you are easy money....you're screwed. It's not worth the paperwork for johnny scumbag, because even if you fine him/garnish him for everything....he's not worth a pot full of cold piss to start with. You, on the otherhand, probably are worth the effort. Sad to think that's where things have gone.
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You hit the nail on the head. The system hammers petty offenses from people who can pay to collect revenue. Most felons get a slap on the wrist over and over and over.
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