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I think we are all kids at heart here to some point, I know I have had more than my share of crashes, and will have more in the future, lifes no fun without taking chances, or pushing the envelope, but in the end I am resposible for those chances I take, not saying this in your case because your right I don't know about your circumstances, or ditch/flatlander riding, but for me personally.
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
HAHAHAAH thanks for saying im a kid i will be 30 next month, but in the sceem of things i still got alot to learn so mabey i am a like a kid in that way.Well if any of you flatlanders gets down this way i will buy ya a couple of
Hell, Im 43 & I'm still a dumb kid!
I'm 48 and i'm a dillweed
I'm 48 and i'm a dillweed
Aren't we all!
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Clarke673
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Don't know if it helps or not but the government owns 15 feet from the shoulder of ANY public rode, on private property or not. This is the Montana law on it-
(2) The snowmobile area operator owes a duty of reasonable care, as required by 27-1-701, to a snowmobiler except for the risks inherent in the sport of snowmobiling.
(3) Except as provided in this section, a snowmobile area operator has no duty to eliminate, alter, control, or lessen the risks inherent in the sport of snowmobiling.
So.... technically it doesn't say he can't do that but in court if you had some sort of witness (2 of your friends) and a good judge/layer, you could probably win this one.
If all else fails a good old brick with a letter tied to it expressing your thoughts towards him through his living room window always does the trick!
(2) The snowmobile area operator owes a duty of reasonable care, as required by 27-1-701, to a snowmobiler except for the risks inherent in the sport of snowmobiling.
(3) Except as provided in this section, a snowmobile area operator has no duty to eliminate, alter, control, or lessen the risks inherent in the sport of snowmobiling.
So.... technically it doesn't say he can't do that but in court if you had some sort of witness (2 of your friends) and a good judge/layer, you could probably win this one.
If all else fails a good old brick with a letter tied to it expressing your thoughts towards him through his living room window always does the trick!
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He lives in South Dakota so South Dakota law is what they would go by.
As said, not much you can do to him without a confession that he put the rock there with intent to harm someone (he could say he put it there, starting an erosion control dam or something).
It's too bad you have a permanent injury from this, I'm sorry about that, but sledding is inherently dangerous and I'm glad I haven't sustained any injuries that I couldn't fully recover from. My wife isn't quite as lucky. She broke her tail bone a number of years ago and it hasn't quit hurting.
Just do some fronteir justice on the guy and DON'T post it here! Self satisfaction will be enough.
Now that enough years have passed, little story...a buddy and I were riding thru town up in N Wisconsin, ON THE SNOWMOBILE ROUTE, SLOWLY. He went around a corner in fornt of me and a homeowner had strung a wire fromt he phone pole to the nearest tree in his yard, at head height. It caught my buddy, just below the neck, across his chest and whipped him off the sled, only bad bruises.
After cutting down the wire and seeing it back up again a week later, we went over there about 3am, 2 chainsaws warmed up, idling in the back of an anonymous pickup truck (another friend who wasn't from around there, no tags). Hopped out and cut down the 2 trees nearest the phone pole. By the time his light came on, the trees were hitting the ground and we split!
Left a nice row of 40' tall spruces in front of his house with a large gap in them.
We felt better!
It's too bad you have a permanent injury from this, I'm sorry about that, but sledding is inherently dangerous and I'm glad I haven't sustained any injuries that I couldn't fully recover from. My wife isn't quite as lucky. She broke her tail bone a number of years ago and it hasn't quit hurting.
Just do some fronteir justice on the guy and DON'T post it here! Self satisfaction will be enough.
Now that enough years have passed, little story...a buddy and I were riding thru town up in N Wisconsin, ON THE SNOWMOBILE ROUTE, SLOWLY. He went around a corner in fornt of me and a homeowner had strung a wire fromt he phone pole to the nearest tree in his yard, at head height. It caught my buddy, just below the neck, across his chest and whipped him off the sled, only bad bruises.
After cutting down the wire and seeing it back up again a week later, we went over there about 3am, 2 chainsaws warmed up, idling in the back of an anonymous pickup truck (another friend who wasn't from around there, no tags
). Hopped out and cut down the 2 trees nearest the phone pole. By the time his light came on, the trees were hitting the ground and we split!Left a nice row of 40' tall spruces in front of his house with a large gap in them.
We felt better!
It sucks replacing your left ski carbide more then the right doesn't it?You mountain guys won't ever understand the 70mph+ ditch riding, so don't try to. It's a flatlander thing and totally normal in the central areas. A good portion of our trail systems are in the ditch beside the road.
Exciting huh? Now you know why we come out west
Northern lower Michigan has had it's problems like this over the years. Just be glad it wasn't a barbwire fence. Happened to someone I know and he was in the middle of a field. Some Michigan towns have out right banned sleds or other wise treat the weekend warrior like $hit.
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Clarke673
Somewhere between too dumb to quit and flat earth
when i was 7 or 8 i got a concussion snowmobiling and i was taken to the hospital. There at the hospital a woman was brought in who hit a power poll doing 70+ MPH at night when it was 20 degris below. Shw was instently decapitated and hte poll exploded ito woden shards. She was on the old polaris wedge chassis also...
roll it over to the fence and check to see if he moves it back
It's easy to play the blame game and point fingers after the fact. Guess what you're right. We all open er up. "Oh my God", a moose just jumped out in front of me. Now I'm a dumb azz for going too fast. I can tell you learned a valuable lesson. But I bet even after you recover, you'll pin er again. That's all part of the rush. I think that's why we all spend thousands of dollars for less weight and more HP. I know that's why I do what I do and spend $$$ on vids. Can I make the drop off a 40 ft. cornice and leave the first plant hole? Sounds stupid, but I like it. Call me dumb or call me a sledding adrenaline junky. Or better yet call me when there is 3 feet of fresh.
Peace out and have a great summer.
What he said^^^^^^. I'm LOL at some of the replies on this thread. "You're going wayy to fast..... you're a menace to society..... blah blah", like none of them have ever hit the 70 mph mark on somewhere other than a drag strip. Do any of you speed in your car? Then you should have your license revoked and be thrown in jail (by your own standards). Give me a break. I hope that someone never catches them going over 15 mph, otherwise we'd have to label them "Hypocrits".
Travydog, sucks to be you, as stated, I don't think it would fly in court unless you could prove that he placed the rock there with the intention of hurting you. Even if he placed it there and admits it, it still probably won't fly because he didn't intend to hurt anyone (any lawyer will tell him to say this in his defence). Then it comes down to you and the sled and not knowing the terrain. Your speed and skill level will come into it and a simple "travelling at an unsafe speed during vehicle operation" will probably come out. The little sticker on the hood by the pull cord that states "never ride two up....never operate this vehicle without the proper training.....never operate this vehicle as speeds which exceed the rider's ability....etc" is there to limit liability to the vehicle operator. Hope you get better and things work out. Just my opinion.
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Adrenaline Revolution
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I'm 48 and i'm a dillweed
The first step in bettering yourself is admitting you have a problem !
Trav,
Come on out to Washington next winter and I'll take you for some fun rides in the hills.
One of the best seasons I have ever experienced was when a "Flatlander" stayed out here with some friends of mine and we all watched him learn how to ride in the mountains.
He NEVER lost that smile he got the first time he rode in the hills.
By the end of the winter he was riding like a veteran and nobody was able to keep up with him on the trails leading to the fun spots.
Those ditchbangers have got some skills in the flats !
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