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Water ingestion causing engine failures?

can you describe what you mean by backwash?
Yeah, not all the fuel from the injector will end up the cylinder in lower throttle conditions. I don't know enough to say exactly what's happening, but either the intake pulse gets back to the cylinder before the piston passes the transfer port, or there isn't enough velocity to pull all the fuel from the injector into the cylinder, or some combination of the two. So you get some fuel/pre-mix in the case at idle and part throttle. A fairly small proportion though; nothing to compare to TB injectors or carbs.
 
Spiking a stock engine with 100LL is like adding water to your whiskey. It'll tame it down and certainly isn't gonna "spike" anything.
100%. It's only needed with high compression heads (and usually you'd try to avoid going high enough to need it) or if you've got a turbo and are running higher boost than the engine can handle without detonation on pump gas. Some engines (like the early Dragon 800s) were a little aggressive with compression, and 20% or so 100LL gave you some safety margin, but it didn't enhance performance. Adding it to an engine that doesn't need it costs you money and HP.
 
Spiking a stock engine with 100LL is like adding water to your whiskey. It'll tame it down and certainly isn't gonna "spike" anything.
It will raise the octane some. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Spiking a stock engine with 100LL is like adding water to your whiskey. It'll tame it down and certainly isn't gonna "spike" anything.
I don't trust pump fuel, would rather have a cushion. Have seen to many post about Det Codes.
 
Seen a guy on Facebook that had his lock up at like 1.5 hours say the dealer told him it was a bad crank bearing. Just figured I’d throw that out there to add to the conversation
 
Can you get at all of the screws without actually pulling the intake? It looks like there's a labyrinth/lip all around, except for where the screws are (stupid design). If one can get at the screws, one should be able to inject RTV onto the flat surfaces through the screw holes. In theory, anyway.
 
Can you get at all of the screws without actually pulling the intake? It looks like there's a labyrinth/lip all around, except for where the screws are (stupid design). If one can get at the screws, one should be able to inject RTV onto the flat surfaces through the screw holes. In theory, anyway.
There are some screws behind the steering stem you would not be able to get out the vertical runs are what mostly leak it took me about 5hrs to do it.i tried sealing it without pulling the box but it didn't help.
 
I pulled my hood off last night. 3 bomber over the hood snow days in Cooke City last weekend and there was not a drop of water in my intake. I did add a 1/2 foam seal on the upper plenum where is meets up with the rubber gasket on the lower intake box. I also removed the rubber gasket and glued it back down with RTV.

But that doesn't take away from those that are finding water in their air box. Those gaps shown above are bad. Kind of sucks it's so much work getting that box out to address that. I'm sure it all depends on the type of snow too. If you are riding super cold dry blower snow, I can see how water is getting in the air box.

Any rumors of BDX or anyone working on a filter, like their Protect Air?
 
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It’s odd that after all the crap with the proclimb/ascender sucking snow, cat finally sealed the intake towards the end of that chassis, but didn’t think it was worth adding the seal to the seams on the catalyst just for piece of mind.
 
No water in my lower air box. But was surprised how much water was in the upper plenum when I split it apart. I guess it’s designed so water can’t easily get in the intake box, but……🤬
 

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Didn’t wanna make a new post about the the new latest theory I’ve seen on faceyspace about engine failures, so I figured here is a good place. The theory is that some sleds are coming out of the factory with zip ties extremely tight around the oil lines and pinching them off reducing oil flow to the bottom end.
 
Seen one guy say where they go up under the throttle bodies, but that was the only reference to location I’ve seen so far. Definitely worth looking into.
 
Didn’t wanna make a new post about the the new latest theory I’ve seen on faceyspace about engine failures, so I figured here is a good place. The theory is that some sleds are coming out of the factory with zip ties extremely tight around the oil lines and pinching them off reducing oil flow to the bottom end.
I saw that post, guy claimed there's a service bulletin coming to check it
 
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