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un F UGGING REAL!!!! What next???

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Is Marijuana the Answer to California's Budget Woes?
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By TOM MCNICHOL/SAN FRANCISCO Tom Mcnichol/san Francisco – 54 mins ago
Proponents of marijuana legalization have advanced plenty of arguments in support of their drug of choice - that marijuana is less dangerous than legal substances like cigarettes and alcohol; that pot has legitimate medical uses; that the money spent prosecuting marijuana offenses would be better used on more pressing public concerns.


While 13 states permit the limited sale of marijuana for medical use, and polls show a steady increase in the number of Americans who favor legalization, federal law still bans the cultivation, sale, or possession of marijuana. In fact, the feds still classify marijuana as a Schedule I drug, one that has no "currently accepted medical use" in the United States.


But supporters of legalization may have been handed their most convincing argument yet: the bummer economy. Advocates argue that if state or local governments could collect a tax on even a fraction of pot sales, it would help rescue cash-strapped communities. Not surprisingly, the idea is getting traction in California, home to both the nation"s largest supply of domestically grown marijuana (worth a estimated $14 billion a year) and to the country"s biggest state budget deficit (more than $26 billion).


On Monday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the California legislative leaders a tentative budget agreement to plug the state's deficit, but it would involve making sweeping cuts in education and health services, as well as taking billions from county governments. Democratic state assemblyman Tom Ammiano has introduced legislation that would let California regulate and tax the sale of marijuana. The state's proposed $50 an ounce pot tax would bring in about $1.3 billion a year in additional revenue. Ammiano"s bill was shelved this session but he expects to introduce a revised bill early next year.


If the state legislature doesn"t act, perhaps California voters will. One group is preparing to place a statewide initiative for the November 2010 ballot that would regulate and tax the sale of marijuana for Californians 21 years of age and older. Tellingly, the group spearheading the measure calls itself TaxCannabis2010.org, stressing the revenue advantages of marijuana legalization. The group hopes to collect the required 650,000 voter signatures by January to place the measure on the November 2010 ballot.


"There"s no doubt that the ground is shifting on marijuana," says Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, which promotes alternatives to the war on drugs. "The discussion about regulating and taxing marijuana now has an air of legitimacy to it that it didn"t quite have before. And the economy has given the issue a real turbo charge."


The legalization effort is getting serious consideration from surprising quarters. In May, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly called for a large-scale study to determine whether to legalize and tax marijuana.


"I think it"s time for a debate," the governor said at a news conference. "I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs."


In California, medical marijuana sales are already taxed, and some communities are looking for ways to get a bigger slice of the pot pie. Residents Oakland are currently voting in a mail-in special election that includes a measure which would make the city the first in the country to establish a new tax rate for medical marijuana businesses. If the measure passes, Oakland marijuana dispensaries, which are now charged at the general tax rate of $1.20 per $1,000 in receipts, would see that rate raised to $18 per $1,000.


A Field Poll conducted in California this spring showed 56% of the state"s registered voters in support of legalizing and taxing marijuana as a way of offsetting some of the budget deficit. Several national polls have shown that more than 45% of American adults are open to legalizing pot, about double the support a decade ago.


Even the most ardent marijuana advocates aren"t expecting nationwide legalization anytime soon. Instead, any action is likely to come on the state and local level. For now, all eyes are on cash-strapped California, where high taxes could take on an entirely new meaning.
 
I know Redlineguy how backwards are we as a society?


We make it illegal, then waste billions of dollars enforcing it.

This should have been done decades ago.


legalize it...tax it...move on....
 
yep, legalize and tax.
They could put a 10 dollar tax per pack and still sell it all day long.
 
yep, legalize and tax.
They could put a 10 dollar tax per pack and still sell it all day long.

DAM RIGHT it would look at the taxes on alcohol and ciggs !Better yet some of the best product in the world is MADE IN THE USA!! Oh and Canada Too!

I am an advocate of legalization and responsible Marijuana Use!
 
Do you guys realize what legalizing mj will do to most police forces / prosecutors / ATF / lawyers / judges etc. etc.???
More jobs will be lost than in the car industry collapse!!!
 
About time we shift our attention to real crimes not Pot

JDKZRT the police will still be busy with Crack and meth not to worry about jobs

Tax it like everything else
 
I can see the benefits to taxing the hell out of it but where do you draw the line? What’s next? Making crack legal? What is the age for smoking MJ going to be? IS our tax money from it going to be wasted on more programs to "stimulate the economy"?

It's all BS! I don’t do any of the **** and as far as I can tell the taxing from it wouldn’t help much because there would still be an illegal market for it. So I say keep it the way it is, hell anything to make life harder for losers like J-fly
 
do you guys realize what legalizing mj will do to most police forces / prosecutors / atf / lawyers / judges etc. Etc.???
More jobs will be lost than in the car industry collapse!!!


yep !!! Goverment jobs!! Thats the part that needs trimming too!
 
Do you guys realize what legalizing mj will do to most police forces / prosecutors / ATF / lawyers / judges etc. etc.???
More jobs will be lost than in the car industry collapse!!!

LMAO whatever


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Do you guys realize what legalizing mj will do to most police forces / prosecutors / ATF / lawyers / judges etc. etc.???
More jobs will be lost than in the car industry collapse!!!

Tweed is just an expensive distraction to the law, with legaliztion resources would be freed up to confront the real crimes.
 
I can see the benefits to taxing the hell out of it but where do you draw the line? What’s next? Making crack legal? What is the age for smoking MJ going to be? IS our tax money from it going to be wasted on more programs to "stimulate the economy"?

It's all BS! I don’t do any of the **** and as far as I can tell the taxing from it wouldn’t help much because there would still be an illegal market for it. So I say keep it the way it is, hell anything to make life harder for losers like J-fly

Pot is the most socially accepted "drug" along with tobacco and alcohol. It's just not completely legalized yet. YET! :D It has medicinal purposes unlike the other two and to imply crack would ever be legalized is just silly.

Not all people that smoke bud are losers like you say. Not even close!
 
As long as it's illegal I'll be against it. I admit it's not the worst drug out there, and legalizing it could solve a lot of problems. BUT, how do you regulate it??? Legal smoking age 18...ok. But I DON'T want people driving under the influence of it. How the hell are you going to regulate that:confused:
 
As long as it's illegal I'll be against it. I admit it's not the worst drug out there, and legalizing it could solve a lot of problems. BUT, how do you regulate it??? Legal smoking age 18...ok. But I DON'T want people driving under the influence of it. How the hell are you going to regulate that:confused:
The same way they do know.. The methodology is already in place. I would assume age would be 21, similar to Alcohol, unless the alcohol age to 18 also.

Well, solved that whole problem, what is next? lol There will still be piss testing for jobs and the like, only thing changed will be probably an increase in testing.

MJ is an interesting thing in that it stays in the system the longest out of all the drugs, including alcohol. That is not counting hair sample testing.
 
As long as it's illegal I'll be against it. I admit it's not the worst drug out there, and legalizing it could solve a lot of problems. BUT, how do you regulate it??? Legal smoking age 18...ok. But I DON'T want people driving under the influence of it. How the hell are you going to regulate that:confused:

Same way you regulate drinking and driving.
 
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