Turn yourself in Jack Azz!!!

[HighMark Adventures]

Even if the kids were putting peoples lives in danger by driving wrecklessly, even if they were tormenting this killer with words, driving acts, throwing things at him, even at their worst this guy drove back after raming them into a ditch and tried to kill them AGAIN A SECOND TIME and finally got what he was intending. REGARDLESS of what the kids were doing you can't kill people by running them off the road and then GOING BACK to finish them off.

How do we not know that maybe the three young guys were not trying to put buddy in the ditch and it went wrong and they ended up in the ditch.

What if buddy went back to scare them and things went terribly wrong.Again we don`t know the whole story.

We can keep going round and round all day long on this topic.



Bubba I agree religion should have nothing to do with it. I believe the press is playing that card or trying to sway sympathy by writing this...


"The three 21-year-olds, who are all members of Cloverdale Bible Way church, had just been at a prayer meeting the night before, joined by more than 500 members of their congregation including their families. They were there to wish the three a fond farewell."

They could have have just as easily said three young men from Abbotsford.

 

[Linc]

I know,,,don't get your shirt in a knot,I agree with you on the fact that there are two sides to the story,however he forfeited an enormous amount understanding by the general public by not sticking around, and there is no way to argue around that.

People aren't passing judgment so much anymore on the the accident itself, but the actions of leaving the scene, that's the bigger issue right now,I think that is the bad taste that everyone is choking on right now.

The accident and it's actions leading up to it will reveal themselves soon enough,until then,there is one undeniable fact.

 

[TDubya]

Linc, it happened on a stretch of road with deep ditches and only 2 driveways to turn around and those driveways were at the scene of the incident. He would have to drive at least 1/2 mile till the next road to make a safe turn. Once he turned back and went back up that road he put himself in a position for a possible confrontation.

All I know as facts are what I just wrote. ^^^^

If Brent wanted to kick there a$$es why not stop right a ways and do it right there. I believe he was coming back to see if they were alright and he was confronted. This is when things got out of hand.

It still bothers me that he took off the deck though. Should have taken the wifes car to the lawyers place in the morning, left his truck as is.

The fact he took off the deck is gonna be his downfall. They will find proof that his buddy helped him take it off and they might not know who the driver was but they will know who helped him "cover it up" and will use this to charge buddy with something serious unless he gives evidence against Brent.

There will be a very thorough investigation and no stone will be left unturned. With all the bad press the I.H.T.U. (Integrated Homocide Tactical Unit)(sp) have been getting they will make no mistakes on this case. Finally they have witnesses willing to talk.

I would assume there will be a quilty plea with a plea bargain attached.


Very sad situation. The lesson here is don't give into road rage. Just drive away and take a plate #. It's just not worth it.

Hardkore, Those boys were not drinking or partying. They were not only very religious but they were 20 minutes away from crossing the border. No border guard would let a car full of partiers across the line. Don't ask me how I know ... I just know.

 

[apache]

Hardkore is right.

the media are nothing but a bunch of liars.
all we know is that we know nothing at this point.

a few years a go there was an incident at Squamish were a middle age lawyer went over to his next door neighbor's house trying to stop a party at 2am. a fight broke out and he got punched ONCE in the face and died instantly.
I happened to know the group that was partying. they are not violent people.

well, the news story said that the guy got killed becouse he was wearing the wrong gang colors. what a bunch of liars, trying to pray on people's fears is all they do. the truth has nothing to do with the news.

 

[zebiraross]

How do we not know that maybe the three young guys were not trying to put buddy in the ditch and it went wrong and they ended up in the ditch.

What if buddy went back to scare them and things went terribly wrong.Again we don`t know the whole story.

We can keep going round and round all day long on this topic.



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Ha! You must be good friends with this guy. The kids were in a car right? I'm sure they thought they could run a truck twice their size off the road...One thing is clear, he did go back and KILLED a kid. After running them off the road in the first place. Fact is, the kids ended up in a ditch, weather or not they drove them selfs (highly unlikely) into it, or the guy did. If this guy didn't have intentions of killing them he would not go back and try to run them over AGAIN.
Guess you have your opinion, I have mine. Hopefully the courts in Canada aren't as liberal as a lot of people sticking up for this guy.

 

[chazzer]

I agree. Why would you get half snapped before crossing a strict border......

What ever happend there, it's unexcusable. The guy got killed and thats a real tragic event not to mention a bad name for sledders in general.

There must be consequences!

Chaz

 

[snoboy]

This whole story just sucks. I know, I know there's 2 side to every story. We know why the young kids were on the road at 2:00 am, they were headed to the airport to catch a scheduled flight to Hawaii. Normally (knowing their on a trip of a life time) they'd be avoiding any and all difficulties to get to the airport to begin the vacation, and if that's the case I don't see them looking for any kind of trouble. What time do the bars up there close? This story just smells real bad. One thing about the truth, it may take awhile but it always works it's way to the surface.

 

[TheClown]

Regardless of the reason, if I ever hit someone I hope I have the balls to call it in. If he was worried about getting his *** handed to him by the other two, which I can see happening, then he could still drive to safest spot(keep in mind the other truck was in ditch and friend on ground so wouldn't have to go to far) and report exactly what happened and then wait for cops. Don't make them come to your house looking for you. JMO.

With regards to the media story about all the church getting together to wish these 3 a safe trip....give me a break. It's not like they were going on a LDS mission, or Iraq, or something similar. They were going to Hawaii on vacation--not a third world, and not for any long period time.

 

[priest lake rmk]

A month ago I went to Hawaii from Seattle. My plane left at 5:40 AM. We where there at 4:00 AM. How far of a drive is it to Sea Tac from Vancouver? 2.5 hours? When did there plane leave. I would bet these guys got an early start to the airport. Thats all before they encountered this drunk.

 

[TDubya]

If this guy didn't have intentions of killing them he would not go back and try to run them over AGAIN.

I am only speculating but what if he went back to see how they were and they were on the road with something big which could be thrown through his windshield. In this situation on that stretch of road I could see someone ducking and gunning it.

To put a different perspective on it, ask yourself what you would do if you were driving down the road and came upon someone who was gonna throw something at your vehicle. I for one would duck and try to leave the area as soon as possible and then call the cops. I would not stick around and get into a confrontation.

Maybe Brent was going back to exchange insurance info. There was supposedly damage to both trucks.


They say the police got a tip that morning which led to seizure of the vehicle and 2 arrests. My question is what tip? Heck they were reporting it as a police incident. No description of the vehicle was given until after they had the vehicle in there possession.
I believe the tip game from the US Border Patrol. The quickest way to his place from where the incident happened is down 0 avenue. There are those border cameras on top of towers every mile or so. If he drove down that road they will be able to put him in the driver seat of the truck. They will also have a clear picture of anyone else in the vehicle and possibly could even have audio of anything said in the vehicle.

Like I said in an earlier post the I.H.T.U. have been getting a lot of bad press cause they haven't solved any murders since they were assembled. There will be very thorough in this investigation.

 

[ARCTIC DUCK]

tough news for all involved. looking forward to hearing more on this and how things really happened that night.

 

[Monty]

Ha! You must be good friends with this guy. The kids were in a car right? I'm sure they thought they could run a truck twice their size off the road...One thing is clear, he did go back and KILLED a kid. After running them off the road in the first place. Fact is, the kids ended up in a ditch, weather or not they drove them selfs (highly unlikely) into it, or the guy did. If this guy didn't have intentions of killing them he would not go back and try to run them over AGAIN.
Guess you have your opinion, I have mine. Hopefully the courts in Canada aren't as liberal as a lot of people sticking up for this guy.

Actually the kids were in lifted Duramax, maybe the kid went to confront him when he was coming back and got clipped by the snowmobile deck? not making excuses but there are 2 sides to this story.

 

[zebiraross]

I am only speculating but what if he went back to see how they were and they were on the road with something big which could be thrown through his windshield. In this situation on that stretch of road I could see someone ducking and gunning it.

To put a different perspective on it, ask yourself what you would do if you were driving down the road and came upon someone who was gonna throw something at your vehicle. I for one would duck and try to leave the area as soon as possible and then call the cops. I would not stick around and get into a confrontation.

Maybe Brent was going back to exchange insurance info. There was supposedly damage to both trucks.


They say the police got a tip that morning which led to seizure of the vehicle and 2 arrests. My question is what tip? Heck they were reporting it as a police incident. No description of the vehicle was given until after they had the vehicle in there possession.
I believe the tip game from the US Border Patrol. The quickest way to his place from where the incident happened is down 0 avenue. There are those border cameras on top of towers every mile or so. If he drove down that road they will be able to put him in the driver seat of the truck. They will also have a clear picture of anyone else in the vehicle and possibly could even have audio of anything said in the vehicle.

Like I said in an earlier post the I.H.T.U. have been getting a lot of bad press cause they haven't solved any murders since they were assembled. There will be very thorough in this investigation.

All I know is if I hit someone and killed them after running them off the road in the first place, I would not leave the scene of the crime, go home and take off my sled deck because if I thought I was innocent. I highly doubt he was going back to share insurance info after he ran them off the road. Lets be realistic here, if someone runs a person off the road is he going to go back to exchange insurance? "Hey, sorry I ran you off the road but lets exchange insurance"...LMAO.

 

[24footjet]

Two sides of the story... obviously... conjecture... obviously... hardkore, you are the one with all the if's and but's here.

The guy turned around and ran them over, then took off his sled deck. Someone said they may have hit ice and slipped into them? You guys are idiots. He would have stayed around and helped if it was an accident.

I hope everyone in Canada doesn't think like some of the posters on this thread.

Did the paper say there was alcohol involved? Seems like if there was it would be in the article. Did any of the articles say they were going for spring break? Does everybody act the same way on spring break? So I take it they were going for a week long booze and chick festival because everybody else does? Lot's of questions your raising here guys.... you are just doing it for the person in the wrong.

Save it with the "religious kid" statements...

I hope you don't get run over and somebody protects the guy who killed you with the same bleeding liberal heart....

 

[HighMark Adventures]

zebiraross

I personally don`t know the guy. I might have sledded with him years ago as part of a crowd.

I only piped in on this thread because the lynch mob was forming without all info from both sides being in.

Hope you don`t screw up one day because I will be there with my rope and heading up the mob before I know or care about your version of the story. "thats a joke now"

I always take the less popular side. Had a hell of a time during the OJ trial.

The way this is being played out I really hope these men were as squeaky clean as the media is portraying them. Because if it comes out they were the instigators and some how threating the other guys life. Well crow is best served rotisserie style.

And no I have not forgotten the fact that someone has died over this.

We know the press can`t get anything right. They say they were headed to vancouver airport , tdub seems to know alot and says they were going to cross the border. So already we have conflicting info.

And I have crossed the border in and out of the us completely pissed and driving. This was when I was young and dumb.

 

[skidoorulz]

What if, what if, what if. What if the dog hadn't stopped to take a dump? He would have caught the rabbit. What if the dog was fast? He would have caught the rabbit anyway. He hit, he killed, he is guilty of something regardless of intenion and if's.

 

[chazzer]

I am still is aww over this whole incident.

WTF comes to mind though...........

Just imagine being there watching the whole thing.

The world we live in.......

Chaz

 

[Bubba700]

Two sides of the story... obviously... conjecture... obviously... hardkore, you are the one with all the if's and but's here.

The guy turned around and ran them over, then took off his sled deck. Someone said they may have hit ice and slipped into them? You guys are idiots. He would have stayed around and helped if it was an accident.

I hope everyone in Canada doesn't think like some of the posters on this thread.

Did the paper say there was alcohol involved? Seems like if there was it would be in the article. Did any of the articles say they were going for spring break? Does everybody act the same way on spring break? So I take it they were going for a week long booze and chick festival because everybody else does? Lot's of questions your raising here guys.... you are just doing it for the person in the wrong.

Save it with the "religious kid" statements...

I hope you don't get run over and somebody protects the guy who killed you with the same bleeding liberal heart....

Well I guess I am an idiot for believing that we should wait to pass judgment until we get all the information. Guess I am an idiot for living and believing in a country thats believes in getting ALL the info before passing judgment on something. Its good to know that there are a lot of other Idiots just like me running around that understand its better to get all the facts before you put some one away. Liberal, thats funny I'm not even go there I'm would bet I prob have some of the most conservative values on this forum. I just understand what it means to not pass a rash judgment on people since I know I am not perfect and could possibly be wrong. If all the facts come out and support that he ran them off the road in an act of rage, and then turned around to finish the job I will be the first one voting for the needle.

 

[TDubya]

Lets be realistic here, if someone runs a person off the road is he going to go back to exchange insurance? "Hey, sorry I ran you off the road but lets exchange insurance"...LMAO.

Are you saying if you knock someone into the ditch, you're not going back. Isn't that hit and run?

You seem to know a lot about the case. Are you an armchair prosecutor? Are you familiar with the area? Do you know what happened? I don't know maybe you were drinking with the guy. If so please fill in some details.
If the guy was going back to kill someone why did he not get them all? If that was his intention why leave any witnesses?

I don't really know Brent. He did work for me 8 years ago. I hired someone to do some work for me and the job was farmed out to him. I am not trying to defend what happened. But instead offer some possible different scenarios.

If it is proven that Brent intentionally knocked those guys into the ditch and then went back to run them down, then I hope he gets the maximum sentence available.

I can wait for the whole story to come out though before I pass judgement.

 

[TDubya]

He hit, he killed, he is guilty of something regardless of intenion and if's.

I agree totally. We just have to wait to see what he is guilty of.