Tiger Woods wins 3 Espy's

[Sturgis Sledder]

These guys are not 100% committed to their sport-they are, but unlike golf there is only one tour to make money on. In golf, guys like Heron can not win or even make a showing of a major and still make 1 mill a year. In MX you don't podium you don't get sponsors and money, thus the need to work to pay for racing.

I guess i just know the wrong lifters. They are flexible but by no means are they swinging a club up to par, nor are they swinging a bat like Ichiro.

Different sports call for different definitions of strength.

IF Heron doesn't win he doesn't get sponsors either, there is only 1 tour where the guys make the big bucks.

From Men's Fitness Magazine, and ESPN

"Pound for pound, I put him with any athlete in the world"
Tiger's trainer Keith Kleven

Tiger Woods’ workout regimen at gym:

1) Cardiovascular warm-up exercise (30 minutes) including treadmill, stair stepper or bike.

2) Total body stretching focusing on the muscles of the legs and trunk. A trainer assists him with physical therapy to help his body to prepare the joints for the rigors of swinging a golf club.

3) Core exercises (focusing in posture and balance)
These exercises are performed to strengthen the muscles that stabilize his body. Core training involves keeping the torso in place while taking his limbs through different movements. This workout helps to improve the muscles of the abdomen and back. These muscles are the key muscles needed for the twisting the body withstands during the golf swing. For example, Woods may sit on the medicine ball and perform dumbbell curl while trying to maintain his balance on the ball. He may also anchors long rubber bands to fixed positions and performs movements similar to the golf swing.

4) Endurance runs of seven miles (11 kilometers) and speed runs of three miles (five kilometers)

5) Weight training
Now, this is the most interesting part. On high-intensity days, he lifts 80 percent of his maximum weight doing exercises such as the bench press, the shoulder press and squats.

Keith Kleven did not disclose how much weight Woods is doing, but rumor said that Woods was bench pressing about 300 pounds (about 136 kilogram). Many doubt so. Yes, I do not think that he ever did that. Even if he does, he should not do it often. That load would put his shoulder joint at the risk of getting injured. Not a risk he is willing to take that might ruin his career.

Tiger Woods trains with weight machines, free weights, dumbbells and medicine balls. However, what Woods does differently from a typical weight lifter is that he tries to perform various exercises in movements and positions that mimic the golf swing. He works on his golf posture and grip strength by lifting dumbbells. Since the golf swing is a very dynamic movement, I suspect that most of Woods’ exercises are done that way and not just sitting doing isolation exercise for individual muscles.

Tiger Woods said that he does not have any ego in the gym. He believes that it is important to listen to his body when comes to pushing weight. Therefore, he never hurt himself by taking too much load. It is no surprise that he opts for high repetitions with smaller weights. These workouts include leg-press (with machine) and biceps-curl (with machine too) nowadays.

5) Cool down
Woods stretches again to cool down.

 

[redlineguy]

I wouldn't say higher price. Sergio missed a put last year in the open by less than 1/2", and it ended up costing him the tournament, and about $600,000. Now that's pricy.


Higher price as in risking your life VS missing the hole with a ball, BIG Dif!!

Last time I tried that, I ended up with a broken arm, and a concusion.

That ever happen after missing a Put?? Didn't think so




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[redlineguy]

That is my point. These guys are not 100% committed to their sport. The guys playing golf, practice every day, get paid to do this and don't have to worry about making a living at their other job.

Competition is much harder.

Dude you are so out of touch on that replay I can't believe what you just said and feel dumber for having read it!!


Explanation: If they were not committed they would not work to make enough money to make it to the next race. You have the hole thing backwords.



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[redlineguy]

I really think you are speaking about something you don't know much about.

I would say 90%+ of all golfers work out regularly.

Well you need to go back and read my post again then( never said they all don't used the word "many" look it up). How often does or did John Daily work out?? My "Guess" Not much, but guess what he DID win right???

Have you ever been on an MX track?? I have swung a club many times so if you have never been on the line with 39 other guys waiting for the gate to drop MAYBE you are the one who is talking about something you know NOTHING about.




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[milehighassassin]

Dude you are so out of touch on that replay I can't believe what you just said and feel dumber for having read it!!


Explanation: If they were not committed they would not work to make enough money to make it to the next race. You have the hole thing backwords.



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Well now you know how I feel after each of your posts.

I am simply saying that MX guys have a job in which they have to put time towards, golfers like OTHER professional athletes spend 100% of their time working on their game.

 

[milehighassassin]

Well you need to go back and read my post again then( never said they all don't used the word "many" look it up). How often does or did John Daily work out?? My "Guess" Not much, but guess what he DID win right???

Have you ever been on an MX track?? I have swung a club many times so if you have never been on the line with 39 other guys waiting for the gate to drop MAYBE you are the one who is talking about something you know NOTHING about.

John Daly is an exception, he never really won a lot. He was able to win because he hit it long. He is a non-factor now.

The ESPY's are voted on by fans and the sporting world, so obviously you are a minority in thinking Tiger is un-deserving.

MX might be a harder physical sport and I am not arguing that. I am simply saying that Tiger was hands down the best and most dominate athlete last year. He played against professionals all year round and still dominated.
He played against very few guys that held other jobs.

and yes I have been on a MX track, that doesn't me capable of riding with the pro MX guys anymore than your drunken club swinging makes you capable of playing against Tiger.

 

[cmantle1]

Well you need to go back and read my post again then( never said they all don't used the word "many" look it up). How often does or did John Daily work out?? My "Guess" Not much, but guess what he DID win right???

Have you ever been on an MX track?? I have swung a club many times so if you have never been on the line with 39 other guys waiting for the gate to drop MAYBE you are the one who is talking about something you know NOTHING about.




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dude i ride motocross often, but golf more. Yes motocross mabye more physcially demanding in a sense, but NO where near the mind stress you undergo in golf. When your in a state tournament with one hole left and you need to put down 4 good shots, you tear yourself apart. I think that if often looked over, and i view that part of a sport....

 

[redlineguy]

Well now you know how I feel after each of your posts.

I am simply saying that MX guys have a job in which they have to put time towards, golfers like OTHER professional athletes spend 100% of their time working on their game.

The Only point I ever tried to make WAAAAAY back when is that MX is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more Physically demanding than Golf. You and Other Golf people seem to miss that and talk about how ripped Tiger is and that has nothing to do with the original point I tried to make.




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[Chubbydog]

Dude you are so out of touch on that replay I can't believe what you just said and feel dumber for having read it!!


Explanation: If they were not committed they would not work to make enough money to make it to the next race. You have the hole thing backwords.
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What he's trying to say is that if a MX racer had 8 hours a day to comit to there sport, and didn't have to waste that time at work trying to pay for there sport, they would be a lot better, and the competition would be better. Golfers can spend all day practiceing to get better. They have a lot more time to perfect there game. The PGA tour is like having 150 factory racers out on the track. The competition would be a lot tighter if that were the case.

 

[redlineguy]

dude i ride motocross often, but golf more. Yes motocross mabye more physcially demanding in a sense, but NO where near the mind stress you undergo in golf. When your in a state tournament with one hole left and you need to put down 4 good shots, you tear yourself apart. I think that if often looked over, and i view that part of a sport....

mind stress you undergo in golfyou tear yourself apart


LMFAO if that is so hard for you you must be the slowest guy on the track when you ride. LOL




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[redlineguy]

John Daly is an exception, he never really won a lot. He was able to win because he hit it long. He is a non-factor now.

The ESPY's are voted on by fans and the sporting world, so obviously you are a minority in thinking Tiger is un-deserving.

MX might be a harder physical sport and I am not arguing that. I am simply saying that Tiger was hands down the best and most dominate athlete last year. He played against professionals all year round and still dominated.
He played against very few guys that held other jobs.

and yes I have been on a MX track, that doesn't me capable of riding with the pro MX guys anymore than your drunken club swinging makes you capable of playing against Tiger.

FYI I don't drink. Just proves you don't know what you are talking about even more now.




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[redlineguy]

What he's trying to say is that if a MX racer had 8 hours a day to comit to there sport, and didn't have to waste that time at work trying to pay for there sport, they would be a lot better, and the competition would be better. Golfers can spend all day practiceing to get better. They have a lot more time to perfect there game. The PGA tour is like having 150 factory racers out on the track. The competition would be a lot tighter if that were the case.

Yes, but there is only so much money to go around, You say 150 as a #, OK then the 151st Golfer in your mind is not commited right?? Because he is not payed enough to play 8hr's a day?? He must work to make money to be able to play more and get better. Same as with MX, Way harder to do it all, can't just jump on a plain with your sticks and go golf, You need to get the bike there, Work on it all day, ride , clean it get it pack for the next race that might be 3,000 mi away and still find time to ride and train during the week. So there are maybe 50 MX guys payed enought to do it right and 150 that golf same deal just smaller #'s but it does not mean that #51 does not try just as hard as #11 or #7 or #1 see my point??





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[cmantle1]

mind stress you undergo in golfyou tear yourself apart


LMFAO if that is so hard for you you must be the slowest guy on the track when you ride. LOL




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ok man i was trying to just show you how its equal, but instead you had to be a dick. i doubt you know what its like to be in the situation im talking about. To completley clear your head before a crucial shot is not easy RLG, so stop being so ****ing ignorant, jus like someone who doesnt ride talking about MX.

 

[Chubbydog]

Yes, but there is only so much money to go around, You say 150 as a #, OK then the 151st Golfer in your mind is not commited right?? Because he is not payed enough to play 8hr's a day?? He must work to make money to be able to play more and get better. Same as with MX, Way harder to do it all, can't just jump on a plain with your sticks and go golf, You need to get the bike there, Work on it all day, ride , clean it get it pack for the next race that might be 3,000 mi away and still find time to ride and train during the week. So there are maybe 50 MX guys payed enought to do it right and 150 that golf same deal just smaller #'s but it does not mean that #51 does not try just as hard as #11 or #7 or #1 see my point??

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I know what your sayin, but golf brings in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money than MX. The average purse for a PGA tournament is around 7-8 million, with the winner taking home 1.2-1.6 million. I think the winner in a SX event only gets like $20,000 or something like that. The money is so much higher in golf, that it brings in a lot more people trying to make a living at it. Most MX riders have to get a job after they retire, usually around the age of 26-30. Not many ride after that. You can play golf on the senior tour when you turn 50, and play another 10 years if you want. There's very few riders who can retire from making enough money in that 7-10 years there riding professionally. While I love watching MX, if I had to pick one of these sports to earn a living, it would be golf.

 

[cmantle1]

Yes, but there is only so much money to go around, You say 150 as a #, OK then the 151st Golfer in your mind is not commited right?? Because he is not payed enough to play 8hr's a day?? He must work to make money to be able to play more and get better. Same as with MX, Way harder to do it all, can't just jump on a plain with your sticks and go golf, You need to get the bike there, Work on it all day, ride , clean it get it pack for the next race that might be 3,000 mi away and still find time to ride and train during the week. So there are maybe 50 MX guys payed enought to do it right and 150 that golf same deal just smaller #'s but it does not mean that #51 does not try just as hard as #11 or #7 or #1 see my point??




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i see your point, but also its not just like your on PGA tour or your not. Just to play in the hooters tour (amatuer tour) is 1500 every tournament. These are just your best golfers from every course trying ti make a new. Q school (level below PGA) is just 5K to enter, then another cost for every tournament. i think golf and MX have quite a bit in common actually.

 

[cmantle1]

I know what your sayin, but golf brings in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money than MX. The average purse for a PGA tournament is around 7-8 million, with the winner taking home 1.2-1.6 million. I think the winner in a SX event only gets like $20,000 or something like that. The money is so much higher in golf, that it brings in a lot more people trying to make a living at it. Most MX riders have to get a job after they retire, usually around the age of 26-30. Not many ride after that. You can play golf on the senior tour when you turn 50, and play another 10 years if you want. There's very few riders who can retire from making enough money in that 7-10 years there riding professionally. While I love watching MX, if I had to pick one of these sports to earn a living, it would be golf.

not to mention, how many kids can afford to golf vs. ride dirtbikes?

wwwaaayyyy more competition in golf...

 

[redlineguy]

ok man i was trying to just show you how its equal, but instead you had to be a dick. i doubt you know what its like to be in the situation im talking about. To completley clear your head before a crucial shot is not easy RLG, so stop being so ****ing ignorant, jus like someone who doesnt ride talking about MX.

I am not trying to be a dick, First off how old are u?/

#2, Dude you have know idea what kind of things I do every day that are way more stressful than "Clearing my head to make a shot" Like I said before do you have any Idea how hard it is to race 39 other guys doing things that would be very hard by yourself with no distraction but instead with guys all around you with no idea what they plan to do all wile being 30 feet high trying to land on a 10 foot wide patch 90 feet away, I just don't see how golf could be that mind bending. I guess it all depends on what you have done in your life, I have been through a lot so I know the pressure of golf would be NOTHING for me. I see it with my wife, going 100mph to me is nothing and does not even raise my pulse but her its like OMG!!! its all in what you have done, what is scary to one makes another laugh.

Sorry if I offended you that was not my intent. It was meant as a light hearted joke.





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[buck50]

I am not trying to be a dick, First off how old are u?/

#2, Dude you have know idea what kind of things I do every day that are way more stressful than "Clearing my head to make a shot" Like I said before do you have any Idea how hard it is to race 39 other guys doing things that would be very hard by yourself with no distraction but instead with guys all around you with no idea what they plan to do all wile being 30 feet high trying to land on a 10 foot wide patch 90 feet away, I just don't see how golf could be that mind bending. I guess it all depends on what you have done in your life, I have been through a lot so I know the pressure of golf would be NOTHING for me. I see it with my wife, going 100mph to me is nothing and does not even raise my pulse but her its like OMG!!! its all in what you have done, what is scary to one makes another laugh.

Sorry if I offended you that was not my intent. It was meant as a light hearted joke.





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you know RLG, sometimes you can be a real dick!!!!! i mean picking on the poor golfers and starting the most hated thread ever on SW, jeeeeeeezzzzz!!!!!!!

 

[shortstop20]

I have been through a lot so I know the pressure of golf would be NOTHING for me. I see it with my wife, going 100mph to me is nothing and does not even raise my pulse but her its like OMG!!!

I can go 140 MPH on my sportbike all day and it doesn't bother me. However when I'm playing golf and the pressure is on to hit a good shot(or a series of them) I feel the pressure much more than when I'm riding my motorcycle. People that don't play golf seriously would probably laugh but that's the way it is for anyone when you're in competition. Every sport is stressing on the mind or body, some both. When I played baseball, basketball and football in high school I don't think I ever felt what I would call "mental pressure". Everything happens so fast I just played my best. However when playing golf, pool, and other sports where the pace is slower your head has to be much tougher not to get nervous and blow it.

 

[milehighassassin]

The Only point I ever tried to make WAAAAAY back when is that MX is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more Physically demanding than Golf. You and Other Golf people seem to miss that and talk about how ripped Tiger is and that has nothing to do with the original point I tried to make.

Maybe if your spoke/wrote/typed in English I would have gotten that, reading your posts makes my head hurt.