The truth why you will need more than a 144 sometimes!

[OuraySledder]

Looks like you just need to go faster. If you never slow down, you never get stuck! If for some reason you do have to stop say for lunch or to figure out where the hell you are, I sugjest doing so on the top of a large cliff, right on the edge, with your skis hanging off. That way you can get going again If you are in a flat area with no cliffs I would advise stoping on the top of a large tree. For instructions on how to park on top of large trees you will have to PM trailtoy1993 because he seems to have it down? If there are no cliffs or trees then there is no reason to get stuck in the first place.

I wish that worked all the time. I remember a day a few years back on Grand Mesa where my piped 800 with a 151 couldn't maintain speed trying to cut fresh tracks Of course days like that are the exception, but aren't they the days we ride for? Longer is better, I will never go less that 153 for my riding areas, the 144s just get stuck too easy.

 

[DooMoore]

It is called Throttle Management? In most cases it is the rider versus sled! IMOA!

 

[togwotee9]

Toggy the trenchmonster is watching you

 

[OuraySledder]

It is called Throttle Management? In most cases it is the rider versus sled! IMOA!

Is that what they call in in North Dakota Try it in a 5 foot freshie

 

[coyoteman]

rider over sled !!!

as a matter of fact, I did ride over the back of that same sled earlier in the day, when he was trenched in on a hill not to far away. Did not even put a mark on it lol.

 

[milehighassassin]

I never understood how anyone can say a 144 boondocks better then a 162?

Do you think you can turn tighter or do tighter donuts or what?

The longer the track the more flotation and more time you have to pick your lines through the trees. I love boondockin through the trees and really like my 162.

I would not ride anything shorter then a 153. Why ride shorter and get stuck more?

I'm not much of a jumper, but I see a lot of guys going big on long tracks so why bother with the shorter track?

What good is flotation if you cant fit through the trees? You can certainly turn a short sled easier. You have a valid point on being able to stay on top, it is clearly a fine balance. What works for me might not work for you. A small guy won't have the same requirements as a big guy, vice versa

 

[0neoldfart]

144 or ???

Here's my take on the subject: A skilled rider will do fine on a 144. When I was younger and in better physical condition - I'd ride a 121", 136", and 144" in the mountains and did just fine - just had to carry higher ground speeds. In 04 I bought a 159" Rev 800 - I hated that sled. Did it float? Yes. Was it slow? Yes. Did it handle as good as a 144? No. I then bought an 04 Summit X 600 (144"), and an 05 Summit X 800 (151"). Rode the 600 more often - much more fun, and more of a challenge in the deep. Bought an 07 M1K w/153" - handled better then the REV, phenominal power, incredible track speed. Got in a bike wreck that summer, and slowed down a bit the following season (didn't heal well). Now I've streched the M1K to 162", still have sick track speed, good handling, and floatation on the deep days. If I were 5 or 10 years younger - I'd be riding a 141 or 144. But my old a** will stay on a longer track for the remainder of my riding days, as I find less effort is required to play in the backcountry with the longer track.

 

[theultrarider]

The big track does two things. 1st, it allows you to slow down, pick lines, and not have to crater into holes to keep moving. Two, it floats my big a$$. I run a 162 and weigh 240 lbs. My boy @130lbs rides a 121x2" shorty. He can go most everywhere I do. Until I dip into the REAL tight trees. The ones were you have no choice but to slow down. Then even he is stuck alot. I spend most of the time in the lead as well. With that said, if I rode a shorter track, I do have enough skill to get myself around on it, but I would pity anyone that had to try to follow my tracks. With the 162 I can lay down a track generally that most can follow. When I do have to nail the throttle to save myself, I always circle back around to that spot and will find someone hopelessly burried in my hole. Out in the open, it is a different story. IMO the tighter the trees, the longer the track that I want. Unless you try to go between the trees crosswise, they are all the same width!!! I have yet to see a shorty (-144) go where I can not. The only downside to riding my 162 is that I am always the one that is elected to go get others out of the nasty stucks since I am the only one that can get to them and back without sticking mine!

 

[minie me]

you didnt by chance bring your purse with you on that 144? haha just messin with you buddy.

 

[snowhawkaddict]

Wow this is very good information, maybe you fellas ought to tie them Twoskis together!

 

[theultrarider]

Go away

 

[lucky13]

Wow this is very good information, maybe you fellas ought to tie them Twoskis together!

this guy has to have an alter, no one would thank him for useless dribble

 

[ccoleman77]

Went from a 162 the the past three seasons to a 155 the end of last season and now. Biggest difference I see is climbing. But that being said the new IQ is so much more manuverable than the king cat chasis that I can work it up the hill a lot easier than I ever could with the old cat.

 

[440dart]

watch around 25sec short track vs longtrack debate is over

almost flat ground and going nowhere yeah whooo hoooo 136 rocks


but i guess the sled in the vid is pretty impressive


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Ui...168498B0&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=31

 

[m8magicandmystery]

Ummmmm..., if that was YOU on the 151, I'd have second thoughts of trying to poach YOUR trail!

I'd like to see what kind of trench you left with the 144! Did you have to re-jet once you got it back up on top of the snow?!?

lmao...did ya have to rejet..lol...that is so funny.....by the way...i love my 141

 

[snowhawkaddict]

Psssst!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOMhPNaJe6g











Right Cupcake??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaFfqENpvVg&feature=related


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[ARMYSLEDER]

I had 136 for years, went to a 141 with a skid set back then jumped to a 162 and hated droping cornices and jumping. Was only happy a few times out the year with that long track. I just got the 154, Wasnt planning on it but after riding one last year for me it was perfect. I think alot of the track depends on the riding you do. I think alot of guys with the 162 tracks could go where they go on 154. It takes alot of extreme to challenge a 162. Thats if the rider is intermiediate or above. But what I know I only been riding for 20 years now.

 

[hillking]

What type of riding you like to do, will dictate the lenght of track.
The rest is justifing what you have .
Sick of sledders saying I go anywhere a long track goes, no madder what sled your running.
When you have a snow report that says 40'' in the last 48 hr's lets see if you can even get around in the flat.
While long tracks are bust'en up hills getting to the sweet spot's .
Those day's we don't invite any short track's, you woun't make it and will either stay on the flat's and play by your self or hold everyone up.
Just the way it is...

 

[Ford428CJ]

going to have to disagree on this one i think it was more of the 600 to 800 your not talking about a lot of track length difference. all my buddys that ride xp sleds ride 146 and do better than fine in those situation and just overall
a lot of it is rider as well of course

You are forgetting that Ski Doo's use a 16" wide track compared to a 15" wide track. BIG difference in foot print!

 

[steel town]

I think an XP with a 146 is a different animal than other "short tracks" mentioned. They go!!!

I rode both a 154 and a 146 back to back last weekend, I own the 154 and next year I will be getting a 146, just more fun.