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The State of the Nation Address

He's already approved spending 800 billion but yet he then turns around and claims to cut the national debt in half by 2012? :confused:

I think the Mayans, ancient prophets and everyone else that claims life will end in 2012 might really be on to something. :clock::clock::clock:

Ruffy - I hope you have Obama's personal number for when you fall on hard times! Because when it happens to you I doubt he'll extend his hand down to help you up.
 
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Wow, seems like its time for the great one to spew out what he feels anyone opposed to him and his stimulus package wanted to hear. Its not going to get any better. How exactly is he going to cut the deficit in half in 4 years, without raising taxes except on the upper 2%. Do the math, the numbers do not add up. Raising taxes on Corporations is not the answer either. The US has some of the lowest corp taxes in the free world. If he raises taxes on the Corps, they will leave the US for a more tax favorable enviornment, which equals less US jobs. This is just the lead up for more spending in the name of stimulus.


Getting out of Iraq might help. $177 000 000 per day adds up pretty quick.
 
lets band together, buy some gold, and start our own country because I'm tired of this one. We can call it Snowestica.

must own two guns per person
must disagree with ruffy
 
lets band together, buy some gold, and start our own country because I'm tired of this one. We can call it Snowestica.

must own two guns per person
must disagree with ruffy

However, we should definetly have proper gun control.
You shouldn't be allowed to carry more guns than you can safely carry.
All weapons should be fully loaded and ready to be used on a seconds notice.
oh
and shooting a criminal gets your picture on the front page and a 300 dollar reward for saving the taxpayers the money of trying him and putting his azz in jail.
 
Sorry Ruffy but Volunteers Are almost always wealthy, retired people who have time and money to spend their time this way. Under BO's plan this class will be no more or at least greatly curtailed.

Or they are poor students or young people trying to make a difference. Something tells me you don't volunteer much... or do in secotrs that have few young people. I know quite a few people that volunteer... and try and do quite a bit myself. Most are just regular people.
 
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Here fixed it for you. Give the Lincoln wantabee some time to build camps.

So, where you there when Jesus spoke? How popular was he, when he was alive? How big where the crowds?

I think if you read the bible that it would be an easy assumption to make.. Hard to spread Christianity without being a good speaker...
 
I've never said Obama has. You seem to be a bit touchy about it. Catch the point yet?

Yah, that you are confused... To simplify it I was making the case that good speaker = bad person is not true, since there are many good speakers that are good people, I used Jesus as an example. Lincoln could be another one, MLK another too...
 
if we look in the gospels, jesus fed 5k and 7,000 on two occasions. If you actually read, it says 5 and 7 thousand men, let's double that for women and throw in a few for kids. so maybe over 10k at one time. And ya gotta figure a whole ton showed up to gawk while he was on the cross.
 
Yah, that you are confused... To simplify it I was making the case that good speaker = bad person is not true, since there are many good speakers that are good people, I used Jesus as an example. Lincoln could be another one, MLK another too...


Sorry kid, the only one confused here is you. Not going to twist out of this one.
 
Or they are poor students or young people trying to make a difference. Something tells me you don't volunteer much... or do in secotrs that have few young people. I know quite a few people that volunteer... and try and do quite a bit myself. Most are just regular people.

Young people and students already have an option to volunteer and "make a difference" while getting tuition paid for, it's called the military. While not very fashionable with elitists like yourself, it's been opening doors for youths for a few generations now. To offer the same benefits for little to no commitment and work is disgraceful.
 
To offer the same benefits for little to no commitment and work is disgraceful.

Do you think that college education is the only benefit our military personal get? They get a lot more.... not enough IMO, but a lot more....

Oh, and not everyone wants to live in a controlled environment such as the military, especially in this age of personal freedom starting at a young age... To some, that is too high of a price to be paid..... Though they still want to do something for the country, and I would think there are a lot of people that would be proud to serve the country, except not in a combative means..
 
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