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Survival in the Mountains

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Calvin,

I had never heard about vaseline and cottonballs until I read your post last night. I tried that today and it is a great tip. I could not believe how long that cottonball burned for, and they light instantly.

Thanks,
Snow Fox
 
Calvin,

I had never heard about vaseline and cottonballs until I read your post last night. I tried that today and it is a great tip. I could not believe how long that cottonball burned for, and they light instantly.

Thanks,
Snow Fox

and even better, hold em' under water and let go, they float.......pull em out, peel a piece off and they still light
 
I carry almost all mentioned so far. What I do is also put my important stuff, matches, compass, kleenex, butain camping stove, flashlight ect inside a pelican case. The pelican case is waterproof and almost indesctuctable. Second I keep my spare socks, hat and gloves in a waterproof compressable bag like the ones used for whitewater rafting(if I remeber right). The bag has a valve on the bottom and so you are able to put all your stuff in it, compress the heck on of it to push out all of the air, close the top and then you close the valve on the bottom. This really helps conserving space and keep all your stuff dry. And for flash lights, remember to protect the flashlight from being accidently being turned on while riding. More than once I have found my batteries were dead because the light was bump on. Make sure the flashlight is LED with a longest battery life you can find. I also carry duct tape, zip ties and special stick on self strechable tape.(not sure what real name if it is).

One other thing to consider is a snowjack. I found this is a great tool for getting yourself unstuck, especially if your are stuck alone where no one can find you. Plus using a little creativness, you can use the snowjack as a come-along if you have rope with you. For a mear 8 lbs this device can be a live saver.

And the most important thing, I always make sure the gear I am ridding is waterproof and proven. Nothing is worse than being wet and cold. If my gear doesn't work I find stuff that does. Just the other weekend I saw a guy riding in Carhartt overalls. He was probably nice and warm for a while but after a while those overalls are going to get wet. And if he had to stay the night he would not do so well compared to someone in waterproof clothing.

That is my 2cents worth.

Matt
 
Calvin,

I had never heard about vaseline and cottonballs until I read your post last night. I tried that today and it is a great tip. I could not believe how long that cottonball burned for, and they light instantly.

Thanks,
Snow Fox

Snow Fox, glad you tried it. Was taught that a long time ago and thought it was worth passing on.
 
One thing I just bought not only for outdoor use but incase of something like this happening is a Suunto watch. I bought the "Core Model." They are pricey but look on ebay and you can save yourself half.

Mine has the following features:
Altimeter: Difference Measurement / Start from 0, Logbook, Automatic Mode
Barometer: Storm Alarm, Weather Trend Indicator, Weather Graph
Compass: Rotating Bezel, Digital Bearing, Easy Calibration
Depth Measurement: Max. Depth 30 ft/10 m
Watch: Sunrise/Sunset Time, Dual Time, Countdown
Other: Button Lock, 4 Language Menu

I highly recommend one to anyone that spends a great deal of time in the hills.
 
Great posts everybody!!! Makes everyone think!

I have also wanted to try spending the night out voluntarily to see just how prepared I really am! Could be a humbling experience!
You could always call it a night if you wanted to. Then you would have an idea of things that work or not. How much wood to gather, building an adequate shelter,things you absolutely need Etc.
I can't convince my wife and my nephew it would be fun to try.

Anybody else game in my area?
 
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I have also wanted to try spending the night out voluntarily to see just how prepared I really am! Could be a humbling experience!
You could always call it a night if you wanted to. Then you would have an idea of things that work or not. How much wood to gather, building an adequate shelter,things you absolutely need Etc.
I can't convince my wife it would be fun to try.

Anybody else game in my area?

That is actually a great idea. You and your buddies will learn alot from that. Not so sure I would not to do that with the wife though:eek:
 
the other day while eating a sandwich and taking a little break, I had a conversation and little "how you would do it conversation" if that was the spot we had to stay for the night. It was interesting how ideas would come up in a calm state as opposed to a scrambling, hurry because it's getting very dark, it's snowing very hard now, worried state. I could see making bad decisions and possibly taking a risk for the sake of getting lucky being an obstacle.
 
another thing to add if nobody has is a little tortch... size of a havdheld lighter but shoots flame 4"lond and wind cannot put it out!! soak a piece of firewood(not too big) in gasoline for about a week and put it in a ziplock bag... these are great for starting fires.
 
Iwonder if any one has now come up with any thing different to carry this season
 
After reading everyones posts I realize I am no where close to being ready to spend the night. Also, realize my pack is WAY too small to pack everything people have listed, so what is everyone using for a pack?
 
I would if at all possible build a snow cave. Make sure the floor is a bit higher than the door and make sure you have adequate ventilation. With body heat you should be able to raise the temp to almost 40, and if you have a small candle 50 degrees is possible. Lay some pine boughs on the ground or a space blanket, and if you're wearing dry warm clothes you should have a relatively comfy nights sleep.
 
After reading everyones posts I realize I am no where close to being ready to spend the night. Also, realize my pack is WAY too small to pack everything people have listed, so what is everyone using for a pack?

I use a Dakine Chute Pack, plenty big enough, durable, and comfortable. Pockets for shovel and probe accessible from outside.

Volume
2200 cu.in. [ 36L ]
Size
24 x 15 x 9" [ 61 x 38 x 23cm ]
Weight
2.8 lbs. [ 1.3 kg ]
Construction
630D Nylon

8100-620_CHUTE_DRT_PT.jpg
Only difference in stock photo and mine is color. Photo is of current year, mine is last years model in red.
 
I would if at all possible build a snow cave. Make sure the floor is a bit higher than the door and make sure you have adequate ventilation. With body heat you should be able to raise the temp to almost 40, and if you have a small candle 50 degrees is possible. Lay some pine boughs on the ground or a space blanket, and if you're wearing dry warm clothes you should have a relatively comfy nights sleep.

That wont work so well in the dry champagine snow in colorado
 
Big +1 for carrying road flares. Burn at 3000° for 15mins.... if you can't get a fire going with that, you shouldn't be in the mountains to begin with. I carry one or two in my pack, and a few on the sled.

Another good thing to pack are trash bags. The big plastic heavy-duty ones. Hundreds of uses.

Leatherman, rope, water, trash bags, flares, radio, phone...
 
Somebody mentioned laundry lint as a great fire starter and ive found that the best way to carry this and keep it dry is by using an old film canister. and so far everybody has mentioned bringing a saw. personally, i would rather have a hatchet. sure its a little heavier but it takes a lot less energy to break off dead branches with a hatchet than to sit there for a while with a hand saw. plus, it can double as self defense. maybe not a concern depending on your area but it sure makes me feel a little better.
 
If you want a quick easy way to carry enough gear to make a night bearable here is what I came with. Take a 32 oz nalgene bottle. The following will fit in it easily. three tampons (stick in oil, or gas tank and poof burns for 10 min great for geting fire going). two lighters, plastic sheetrock knife, two lightsticks ( bending ones that will glow all night) two long candles ( Light inside a snow cave.... light and will keep the temp around 45 degrees, 10 to 16 zip ties (hundreds of uses), protien bar, 10 boulion cubes for soup ( I use my hot dogger to melt snow and make soup) 1 pack of gum. Wrap the whole outisde of the bottle with duct tape. I carry this in my pack so that it is on me at all times. No matter what happens if I get away from my sled I am covered. It is not all that I would want to have for the night, But it is one that would make the night bearable.

Fire and Food ..... that is what one needs !!!!!

I have more supplies in my tunnel bag, ie saw, more food a small tarp etc etc...

These bottles work so well that everyone I ride with has one now and not a ride happens that we are not using something from the bottle. Make one up everything is a Walmart and it will be less than 20 bucks.....
 
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