Supertorquer 'Central Roller Mass' Swing Arms

[Original Tetonice]

If i remove my primary spring will i get he Himark every time.

By the way im going to call Randy at supertorquer to let him know to not send the blue spring with the kit since it does nothing.

OT

 

[shortstop20]

If i remove my primary spring will i get he Himark every time.

By the way im going to call Randy at supertorquer to let him know to not send the blue spring with the kit since it does nothing.

OT

Nobody said it does nothing. Can you read?

Ask him if the spring squeezes the belt. Then cover your ears as he laughs hysterically.

 

[Original Tetonice]

Nobody said it does nothing. Can you read?

Ask him if the spring squeezes the belt. Then cover your ears as he laughs hysterically.

Wow,Wow,Wow are you trying to say the spring does something ? There are pages of guys just like you that say the spring does nothing.

And by the way the ramps do move. open your clutch and have a look

OT

 

[shortstop20]

Wow,Wow,Wow are you trying to say the spring does something ? There are pages of guys just like you that say the spring does nothing.

And by the way the ramps do move. open your clutch and have a look

OT

They never said the spring does nothing, they just said it does not squeeze the belt, there's a huge difference. Again you cannot read, your spelling skills are FUBAR as well I might add. Many people have pointed out that the spring fights the push of the weights, which is correct, which also means they do something. The spring is there to make the primary clutch let go of the belt or allow the belt to go down in the clutch. Nobody, whether it be a knowledgeable amateur tuner or professional tuner disagrees with this. What does that tell you?

Call up Randy at Supertorquer, ask him if the spring grips the belt, record it, post it on Youtube and then link it here so we can all laugh our asses off.

 

[Throttle Junkie]

Well I said I was not going to read this but I did...

All I have to say is WOW!!

 

[snowrdr]

Hey Snowrdr,

I brought up the centri***al force formula a little bit back in a different thread... unfortunately to mixed results. IMO it's a great way to better approximate the weight you should be runnning for a given ramp profile.

I've got a little experiment for you, if you've got some time on your hands. Pull your primary off and make some black marks on the face of your new ramps. Throw the thing back on and go for a run (when you have the snow of course). The marker will be rubbed off (like when you use one on the clutch sheave) and it will tell you the highest point your new arms are pushing on the ramp. Measure the max radius of your arms from the center of your primary and you should be able to calculate the amount of force applied to the ramp.

I'll do the same with my regular ramps and arms and we shoudl have a nice little comparison.


PS - I've spent over 10 pages arguing clutching with OT. Believe me guys, you're wasting your breathe.

Tollen,

So here is the first part of your suggestions you put out there for a comparison. I had a little surprise today in my mail box from supertorquer, new ramps. So I just finished changing out the first set of CRA ramps and did take a photo of the stock ramp versus the CRA ramps. As for the ink pen and so on that will be on hold.

To my surprise the slope of the ramps appear pretty similar, so I do not think there is too much difference there but the overall height is as we would guess dramatically different.

 

[Original Tetonice]

They never said the spring does nothing, they just said it does not squeeze the belt, there's a huge difference. Again you cannot read, your spelling skills are FUBAR as well I might add. Many people have pointed out that the spring fights the push of the weights, which is correct, which also means they do something. The spring is there to make the primary clutch let go of the belt or allow the belt to go down in the clutch.

WOW,WOW,WOW "if the spring is there to make the primary clutch let go of the belt or allow the belt to go down in the clutch "

The spring also plays a role in the sheave clamping the belt as the belt shift up the sheaves. The spring works both ways.

OT

 

[sledsrock]

OT,

Pull your head out of the sand, go remove your primary spring and see if the clutch engages and squeezes the belt...............oh, and actually report back to us all and tell us the truth!!!

 

[shortstop20]

The spring also plays a role in the sheave clamping the belt as the belt shift up the sheaves. The spring works both ways.

OT

The spring only REGULATES the amount of squeeze that the weights impart on the belt. They do not create any belt squeezing force.

 

[escape oregon]

Don't mean to get in the middle of your spring fight, But do these ramps work? Has anyone rode with them installed yet?

 

[snowrdr]

Don't mean to get in the middle of your spring fight, But do these ramps work? Has anyone rode with them installed yet?

I have installed them, just have not been able to try them out yet. Hopefully will after this weekend!

 

[Original Tetonice]

The spring only REGULATES the amount of squeeze that the weights impart on the belt. They do not create any belt squeezing force.

Good to see you finally coming around .....Did you know you can run zero pinweight in the arms/rollers and the spring will still REGULATE the amount of sqweeze the arm/roller/ramp impart on the belt.

The primary spring is the backbone to the arm/roller/pinweight & ramp.

The only part the sqweezes the belt is the inner & outer sheave. LOL

OT

 

[sledsrock]

Don't mean to get in the middle of your spring fight, But do these ramps work? Has anyone rode with them installed yet?

Yeah, good point. Back to the original topic.................OT go away!!

 

[banditpowdercoat]

Good to see you finally coming around .....Did you know you can run zero pinweight in the arms/rollers and the spring will still REGULATE the amount of sqweeze the arm/roller/ramp impart on the belt.

The primary spring is the backbone to the arm/roller/pinweight & ramp.

The only part the sqweezes the belt is the inner & outer sheave. LOL

OT

So now the spring DOESN'T squeeze the belt? Would you make up my mind......

 

[Original Tetonice]

So now the spring DOESN'T squeeze the belt? Would you make up my mind......

The spring REGULATES the sheaves to CONTACT the belt. Yup my mind is made up.

OT

 

[banditpowdercoat]

The spring REGULATES the sheaves to CONTACT the belt. Yup my mind is made up.

OT[/QUOTE

Bout freakin time. does that mean you'll leave and give us ours back??

 

[AlaskaJeff]

This read has been a joy.
I hoped to learn more about some new roller arms.
Instead I just refreshed my memory about OT from my Totallyamaha.com days. (I think he was banned there too; the first and only just for being stupid)

Someone make him a t-shirt with a cool pic of a clutch on the front and the following printed on the back:

I AM WE TODD DID. SOFA
KING WE TODD DID

Oh, I think in size extra-stoopid.

Funny thing is, I think he would actually wear it, and quite possibly may become his favorite.

 

[shortstop20]

Good to see you finally coming around .....Did you know you can run zero pinweight in the arms/rollers and the spring will still REGULATE the amount of sqweeze the arm/roller/ramp impart on the belt.

The primary spring is the backbone to the arm/roller/pinweight & ramp.

The only part the sqweezes the belt is the inner & outer sheave. LOL

OT

LOL, that's all I had to say? I could've said that 2 days ago.

Concerning the bold, you know what I meant.

 

[Red-eye]

How long did you wait to get your kit from Super? 2 weeks an dstill waiting.

 

[BB603]

Have a set installed in my sled, havent had alot of riding time on them yet but am very happy with the outcome. Completly changed the way the clutches perform sled doesnt seem so high strung keeps the motor in the grunt of the power and pulls hard. Immeadiatly noticed the difference cant wait to play with them more thisweekend.