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Steamboat rollover

I was out riding Steamboat last weekend and it just so happened another one of my pals was there riding same weekend. I got a text from him wanting to know if he could catch a ride home with me as he had some bad luck. :help: Anyway, he said this corner is off camber and was super slick. He said his speed was no more than 25 MPH but with the ice and off camber it just pulled him off.

He also stated the tow truck driver when he called to tell him where said..."yeah I know where you are at, I pull 3 or 4 out of there a winter" Even with this the cop still gave him a careless driving ticket. I would of thought maybe a to fast for conditions or something lighter would of been in more order?? but heck what do I know.

No body hurt but a few broke up plastics on the four sleds that got pinned and a sore ego.

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Live and hopefully learn.


Thank God it was there and not a huge drop off!


Can't help but look at those tires and shake my head. Maybe they're alright, but big mud tires ain't what you want for snow.
 
Ask him what road # or where abouts he was, just curious since I live by Steamboat, I don't think they believe in "to fast for conditions" tickets around here. :face-icon-small-fro
 
Live and hopefully learn.


Thank God it was there and not a huge drop off!


Can't help but look at those tires and shake my head. Maybe they're alright, but big mud tires ain't what you want for snow.

Depends, there are a few mud type tires out there that are winter rated and capable. I run Goodyear Duratracs, they work on the snow ice and in the mud.

Still, what is the point of the cops coming by to simply collect some revenue? Pathetic and wrong would be the first words that come to mind.
 
My guess is the idea behind the ticket is to remind folks it's winter and time to slow down! Sound like the op wasn't being wreck less in any way, shape or form but my guess is they don't differentiate between the two. In the cops eyes it probably gets looked at as... Could it have been avoided?
 
"Careless" is the Colorado State Patrol SOP since before I got a license decades ago-- If you run off the road, you get a careless driving ticket. "Careless" is also charged whenever they don't know what else to say or can't choose a more specific charge.

But, the officer does have discretion, and doesn't HAVE to write it. Depends on all circumstances, including whether or not he got enough sleep last night, been dealing with asses all day, etc.
 
police in Utah will write tickets for slide offs most of the time here too. they are turning them selves into mobile tax collectors. just like when 2 people have a minor accident then they come to an agreement on who's responsible , and everything's ok.that is until Johnny law comes along and drops a ticket on someone and now everything's ok again and all's right with the world.
 
Yes tax collecter... Because it's a commission based job?!?!? Anyway... That is more than a slide off. How many other vehicles including other pickups/trailers , semis... drove that same stretch of road and didn't get into an accident? Accidents happen, that's why they are call accidents but many other vehicles, vehicles that were possibly driving a more prudent speed for the road conditions made it past that area with out ending up on their top. A too fast for condition ticket might well have been more applicable but at the end of the day it's about being accountable for your actions, actions that were directly a result if an accident causing violation, which the driver was cited for.
 
I'm guessing it was a Trooper? Last year I slid into the ditch after the wind caught my enclosed trailer, and received a careless driving ticket from a Trooper. I did not damage anything else but my own equipment, but that did not matter. He said, "I issue everyone a ticket for sliding in the ditch."

Troopers are not taught how to use discretion anymore. I was told that by someone who recently graduated from their academy. They are just instructed to write tickets. Troopers even write each other tickets for things they do on duty when something like this happens! Troopers = ticket bitches.
 
I am sure there are plenty of good cops out there and I know they have a thankless job but what ever happened to "Serve and Protect"?
 
I'm not sure if it is because it's "one of our own" a fellow Sledder that received a ticket or just the ability to be relatively anonymous on the Internet but the overwhelming anti-law-enforcement makes me shake my head. And looking at those photos it appears the driver not only slid off the road, But in doing so slid across the oncoming lane of traffic. Now it's only a guess on my part, but I have to imagine that if it had been your family traveling the opposite direction that he slid head on into seriously injuring or killing them… A lot of your comments might be slightly different. Serving and protecting comes in many forms… Just so happens that this form happens to be education via enforcement
 
Not a commission job my a$$. You guys roll in nicer newer vehicles than 75% of the public that is funding the program. More tickets means more money for the govt organization collecting it to fund further idiocy.

Your position is that a truck in the ditch deserves a ticket because he MUST have been breaking the law? You are such an expert that you can determine he broke the law without even being there as a witness?

Do you really think the guy needed a cop to write him a ticket to realize something went wrong? Explain to me how that helps protect and serve ANYBODY but the govt coffers?

Lets see, my truck is totaled, my sleds beat up, I am a long way from home but I really need law enforcement to remind me I did something wrong. Looks to me like he didn't need ANY more reinforcement... The ticket was supposed to have more of an impact than an upside down truck and trailer... interesting logic.
 
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