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Shooting at Fort Hood

I almost addressed this argument in my original post, because I knew it would come up. Through my own research I have concluded that the Koran basic message is violence. Mohammed was a conqueror, fighting for control of the entire world by any means necessary.

Granted, there are instances of violence that can be quoted in the bible, and there has been rivers of blood shed in the name of christianity. But the basic message of the bible is peace and tolerance. When in modern history have you seen a christian woman walk into a crowd with a belly full of explosives and pull the trigger?


So how do you explain the Crusades? Christians hunting down and trying to take the holy lands from the Muslim population which have lived there forever?

Sorry but read up on the Koran, the real Koran and you will find it and the Muslim religion are every bit as peaceful as Christianity.

There has been a fair amount of crazy Christians doing some pretty shameful stuff as well. Do you think it would be fair for other religions to judge and associate all Christians with these people? That is what most people do with the Muslim religion.
 
After watching pieces of BO's telepromptered speech at the Ft. Hood Memorial, I just finished watching this video of Obama repeatedly praising Islam and promising them stuff and talking of his Muslim roots and practices and bowing as our president in subservience to the Saudi King. Sickening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

True again Blue, How soon we all forget how obama jumped on Sergeant James Crowley of the Cambridge Police department in honor of his black friend while taking his time to Shout Out to his homies before adressing the Fort Hood Shootings. :mad:

The wrong people are dying.
 
So how do you explain the Crusades? Christians hunting down and trying to take the holy lands from the Muslim population which have lived there forever?

Sorry but read up on the Koran, the real Koran and you will find it and the Muslim religion are every bit as peaceful as Christianity.

There has been a fair amount of crazy Christians doing some pretty shameful stuff as well. Do you think it would be fair for other religions to judge and associate all Christians with these people? That is what most people do with the Muslim religion.

^^^^^ How about YOU come here to michigan & start preaching to the Muslin's in Dearborn about how Great & Peaceful their religion is. Im serious take off your rose colored glasses & see them for what they are & how they treat you. I lived it for many years & you have fell down & bumped your head HARD!!!!
 
I have also been around lots of them in the northwest, and in air ports and on airplanes. They treat us like s**t and act like the world owes them a freakin living. I can sure do without them, I don't care what their book says and Bo is one of them and he acts like this country owes him something and treats us like s**t too.
 
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After reading several postings from MHA, it is crystal clear this person is an enemy of the United States. One of those living within our borders, under the freedom and safety real men have earned for him and he continues to be of the mindset of those who have allowed our enemies to flourish within our borders. I am not sure if it is intentional or just plain stupidity and ignorance but regardless, this type of person is an enemy just as much as any terrorist out there.

It is time right now to make a stand and choose sides. MHA has obviously done that.

You can walk through a pit of hundreds of rattlesnakes and you aren't sure which one will bite you or which one won't but they are all potentially deadly to you. Same thing with having Muslims in this country. Those who choose to allow them to walk amongst us are gambling with everyone's lives.

MHA, after reading this be sure to give me some more bad ratings, I love the bad ones :)
 
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right on!!!

lets kill all muslims..
kill all jews..
kill all the blacks
kill all the hispanics

We need America like it used to be, WHITE!!
 
See the guy in this photo. He spent part of his younger years dealing with bad guys, real bad guys. He knows what can happen when people become complacent and that is exactly what is happening to this country right now. It has become complacent with the help of ignorant Liberals. MHA and Ruffy, when you get the experience this guy has in dealing with bad guys and have proof of it maybe those of us that understand would listen to your opinions but in the meantime your opinions are nothing but hot air based on absolutely no intelligence whatsoever. You are great for a good laugh however, we all need that.

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So how do you explain the Crusades? Christians hunting down and trying to take the holy lands from the Muslim population which have lived there forever?

Sorry but read up on the Koran, the real Koran and you will find it and the Muslim religion are every bit as peaceful as Christianity.

There has been a fair amount of crazy Christians doing some pretty shameful stuff as well. Do you think it would be fair for other religions to judge and associate all Christians with these people? That is what most people do with the Muslim religion.

There have been atrocities committed in the name of every major religion, but the last crusade was 700 years ago (to use your example). Also, there are wackos of every faith. This guy may or not be a run of the mill crazy, but Islam guarantees paradise for people who act as he did, both in scripture and current popular interpetation. NO OTHER CURRENT MAINSTREAM RELIGION DOES THIS!

Islam still behaves as if it is the thirteenth century. At that time, the muslim civilization was at it's peak. It was similarly peaceful and tolerant as other empires at the time (which is not saying much). Islam was "tolerant" because all minorities were firmly subdued under sharia law. The muslim civilization was then annihilated by the mongols. In the seven centuries since, islam has been trying to recapture its golden age. An age where shahs and mullahs owned all the wealth, and ruled much of the known world with an iron fist. To islam, woman are things to be possessed in harums, and non-believers are cattle to be either herded or slaughtered.

I have not read the entire Koran (and I will eat my soiled undies if you have). However, I am a student of history and current events. Although muslims number almost a billion people, they have never regained their former wealth and power. The Koran is very clear that muslims are the only true believers in god, and should either convert or subdue everyone else. This brings me back to the United States. Our founding fathers were also very clear. Freedom of religion is one of the pillars of liberty, but freedom of religion purposefully and concisely excludes any religion that is antithetical to the duty of being a US Citizen. Fundamentally, how can islam exist in the melting pot of the United States when the true believers of Islam must subdue any other race, religion or creed?

Although there are some major differences, it has occured to me as I write this why socialist/progressives are so enamored with islam. The ultimate goal to have total control of a impotent populace is the same. In fact it provides an excellent example of the basic paradox/disfunction of the liberal condition. How can a philosophy that glorifies a woman's right to choose as a primary tenant support a religion where women are treated as slaves?:eek:
 
As far as I can see you are the only one who has posted to kill anyone. Do you have a problem with those people or are you a typical liberal, when you cant win the argument attack the opponent. Swampy:beer;

right on!!!

lets kill all muslims..
kill all jews..
kill all the blacks
kill all the hispanics

We need America like it used to be, WHITE!!
 
The following is a list of the victims in Thursday's Fort Hood shooting rampage that left 13 dead and 38 injured, of which 30 needed to be hospitalized. Authorities released the names of the 13 victims killed Saturday afternoon. The names of those injured are compiled from various news reports across the country.

Killed

Michael Grant Cahill, 62, of Cameron was a physician's assistant and retired CWO who was working on the post as a contracted civilian

Major L. Eduardo Caraveo, 52, of Woodbridge, Va.

Staff Sgt. Justin M. DeCrow, 32, of Plymouth, Ind.

Capt. John P. Gaffaney, 54, of San Diego, Calif.

Spc. Frederick Greene, 29, of Mountain City, Tenn.

Spc. Jason Dean Hunt, 22, of Tillman, Okla.

Sgt. Amy Krueger, 29, of Kiel, Wis.

Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka, 19, of West Jordan, Utah

Pfc. Michael Pearson, 22, of Bolingbrook, Ill.

Capt. Russell Seager, 41, of Racine, Wis.

Pvt. Francheska Velez, 21, of Chicago. She was pregnant.

Lt. Col. Juanita Warman, 55, of Havre de Grace, Md.

Spc. Kham Xiong, 23, of St. Paul, Minn.

Wounded

Sgt. Patrick Blue III, 23, of Belcourt, N.D., was hit in the side by bullet fragments during the attack

Amber Bahr, 19, of Random Lake, Wis., was shot in the stomach.

Keara Bono Torkelson, 21, of Ostego, Mo., was shot in the back left shoulder.

Alan Carroll, 20, of Bridgewater, N.J., was shot three times.

Reservist Dorothy “Dorrie” Carskadon of Rockford, Ill., was critically injured.

Staff Sgt. Joy Clark, 27, of Des Moines suffered a gunshot wound

Spc. Matthew Cook, 30, of Binghamton, N.Y., was shot in the abdomen

Staff Sgt. Chad Davis of Eufaula, Ala., was wounded.

Pvt. Joey Foster, 21, of Ogden, Utah, was shot in the hip

Cpl. Nathan Hewitt, 26, of West Lafayette, Ind.

Pvt. Najee Hull, 21, of Chicago was shot three times, once in the leg and twice in the back.

Staff Sgt. Eric Williams Jackson, 39, of Beaumont, was shot in the forearm.

Justin Johnson, 21, of Punta Gorda, Fla., was shot in the chest and leg.

Staff. Sgt. Alonzo Lunsford, of Richmond County, N.C., was shot multiple times.

Shawn Manning, 33, formerly of Redman, Ore., was shot six times

Army 2nd Lt. Brandy Mason, of Monessen, was wounded.

Reserve Spc. Grant Moxon, 23, of Lodi, Wis., was shot in the leg.

Sgt. Kimberly Munley, 34, of Killeen is the Fort Hood civilian police officer who was shot multiple times by the suspect.

Sgt. John Pagel, 28, of North Freedom, Wis., who was shot in the arm and chest.

Chief Warrant Officer Chris Royal, 38, of Eclectic, Ala., was shot three times.

Maj. Randy Royer of Dothan, Ala., was shot.

Pvt. Raymondo “Ray” Saucedo, 26, of Greenville, Mich., had a bullet graze his arm.

George Stratton III, 18, of Post Falls, Idaho, was shot in the shoulder.

Patrick Zeigler, 28, of Orange County, Fla., was critically wounded.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Fort_Hood_shooting_victims.html
 
I'll chip in here.

I don't believe you can lump all muslims into one, terroristic group, but they certainly aren't doing themselves any favors in that right.

I'm not in the military yet, but I'm in the ROTC, and I am friends/casual acquaintances with MANY prior service ROTC cadets, one was an MP in Iraq, another is a captain in the infantry, if you remember I posted a link to a video of him. Anyways, they don't just hate all muslims, they agree that not every muslim is bad. Cptn Veathe, my freaking hero, speaks more about what he and his soldiers did to help the Iraqi citizens than his actual combat. Because combat is ugly, according to him, and he'd rather think of the kind, caring, thankful muslim civilians than the jihad roaches.

AS, I know you're a veteran, and I'll respect you till I die, but not all veterans or current members of the military think the way you do. At least the ones I know don't.
 
All that sh-- will go out window once your shot at or worse shot!! As O-B states you cant trust em. The'v been fighting for over a 1000 years and we are going to stop in a few short years. naa won't happen' Just never trust em I Known'
 
Milehig Hassin Is anti american, This man or whatever does not believe in what is best for this country. I bet this guy voted for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Carter, and if he could he would have voted for Hitler.
 
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