Very well put Rock Star. Thank you.
Revy avalanche
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Very well put Rock Star. Thank you.
Kudos to all who helped on the hill, organized self rescue probably helped save lives. my 
goes out to the families who lost loved ones. the sledding community is tight we got to stick together.
goes out to the families who lost loved ones. the sledding community is tight we got to stick together.
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scarlier
Well-known member
in memory of SHAY SNORTLAND "RIP"
Here is a message from Shay Snortlands wife Janine!!
Thank you for all the support! I really appreciate it. Please for me, for i have lost so much, stop the blame game for I blame no one for this tragic event. Shay died doing what he loved. so please respect my wishes and stop blaming, there is no one to blame. I feel horrible for the individuals who are being blamed. Shay made the choice. It is a great event and I hope it continues. keep having fun but be as safe as you can, because it can change so many lives when you're not safe and not listening to the warnings. take care everyone thanks again for the support and no more pointing fingers, please.
Janine
Here is a message from Shay Snortlands wife Janine!!
Thank you for all the support! I really appreciate it. Please for me, for i have lost so much, stop the blame game for I blame no one for this tragic event. Shay died doing what he loved. so please respect my wishes and stop blaming, there is no one to blame. I feel horrible for the individuals who are being blamed. Shay made the choice. It is a great event and I hope it continues. keep having fun but be as safe as you can, because it can change so many lives when you're not safe and not listening to the warnings. take care everyone thanks again for the support and no more pointing fingers, please.
Janine
I wouldn't go that far.....
I would say that " If MORE than 1 human is involved in an avalanche, then mistakes have been made"
All the prep and checking in the world wont stop an avalanche ....It is a much better educated risk but crap happens. If you are prepared and riding on slopes without terrain traps and with friends that are prepared you have much better odds. Everybody else should be in a safe zone. The fact that so many educated people were injured says something to me. They knew better than to be in the runout area like that. We all know whats right but sometimes we rationalize risk when the testosterone kicks in.I often ask myself...What would Mike Duffy do?
This is the truth man, there are so many other areas I ride when I know the avalanch risk is high let alone extreme. The guy even said there were other avalanches in the area before the big one at turbo. I am so sorry about the people affected. We must be proactive and stay the hell off big hills like turbo when the risk is to great. It's no different than lighting a cigarrette in a buring house or pulling the tail of a domesticated tiger- sooner or later something bad is going to happen. Sounds a bit blunt but man 3-4 feet of pow on old packed snow "extreme" conditions. Lets not blame but evaluate what went on.
And yeah like backcountry said, flame away
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obviously there were poor choices made, It's hard to blame it on someone. I have not read very many of the replies there are just to many. Hats off to the people who were there to rescue the people who wer barried in the avalanche. sorry to the familes of the riders who died. I would say stop with the blame game and concentrate on that. this thread is making us look worse then the news IMO
OT SHUT UP.
WOW! Can't be leave you are still posting. I would like to meet you and just laugh. I am guessing you own a bar?? I am also guessing that in the past people have probably been over served at your bar? I am also guess said persons have probably gotten into trouble or accidents at worst death, for which you tried TO DENY ANY RESPONSIBILITY.
Now you say YOU started a thread. I originally thought that was what this was for until idiots like yourself started trying to place blame on about page three of this forum. Every page since, every page someone has asked you to please refrain from your inconsiderate comments. But you didn't, and now we are supposed think your the good guy because you started a new thread. Well you ruined the first one. IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT. You weren't there OT where you SO PLEASE SHUT UP. Like someone said before, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYONE WAS THINKING. BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE!
Sorry guys. Again all respect and prayers to the familys and friends of all the people that where involved in this. I hate to be the one that has to repeatedly call someone a idiot in a very tragic and scary forum.
WOW! Can't be leave you are still posting. I would like to meet you and just laugh. I am guessing you own a bar?? I am also guessing that in the past people have probably been over served at your bar? I am also guess said persons have probably gotten into trouble or accidents at worst death, for which you tried TO DENY ANY RESPONSIBILITY.
Now you say YOU started a thread. I originally thought that was what this was for until idiots like yourself started trying to place blame on about page three of this forum. Every page since, every page someone has asked you to please refrain from your inconsiderate comments. But you didn't, and now we are supposed think your the good guy because you started a new thread. Well you ruined the first one. IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT. You weren't there OT where you SO PLEASE SHUT UP. Like someone said before, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYONE WAS THINKING. BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE!
Sorry guys. Again all respect and prayers to the familys and friends of all the people that where involved in this. I hate to be the one that has to repeatedly call someone a idiot in a very tragic and scary forum.
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bigbull
Well-known member
From my friend, Susie Rainsberry. Please pass and share with her permission:
It’s been several days now since the tragic avalanche at Turbo Hill. The latest reports are that two are deceased and three are still hospitalized. The media is also reporting that there were 200 snowmobilers at Turbo at the time of the slide. The avalanche is reported to have been up to 150 meters wide and 10 meters deep. That, my friends, is a BIG avalanche!
I’d like to put some perspective on this – a snowmobiler’s perspective. Apparently no one in the media is a snowmobiler or is concerned about taking the time to gather the facts – not just the bad, but the good as well. And there is good to be heard in this story. If you ask a snowmobiler – they’d be able to tell you what that is. But either the media isn’t asking, or has heard it and doesn’t feel that the facts are newsworthy.
However, I feel these facts are the MOST newsworthy topic of this entire tragedy.
Saturday afternoon, following the close of the events for the annual Big Iron Shootout, a large group of snowmobilers headed to Turbo Bowl to make a run at the hill. As the riders lined up at the bottom of the hill, the mass of spectators parked their sleds and prepared to enjoy the show. As one of the sleds turned out towards the top, the hillside gave way. Thundering down the mountain it came – taking sleds and riders with it. This powerful act of nature happens in a split second. There is no time to react.
The time to react is as soon as it stops. And react – with speed and knowledge – in the midst of chaos – is what those sledders did. There were no typical first responders to this catastrophe in the immediate moments following the avalanche. Only snowmobilers. Those same snowmobilers that the media is painting with a broad stroke as crazy, ignorant, thrill-seekers.
As a back country snowmobiler myself, I can tell you that ignorant is not a word that I would use to describe those survivors. I would call them heroes! And justly so. In the midst of what may have been the most terrifying minutes of their lives, they turned their avalanche beacons to search, they got out their probes and their shovels and they started rescue protocols IMMEDIATELY – likely while in a state of shock. They dug out those that were buried, they triaged the injured, they administered first aid, they built fires to keep them warm until the helicopters arrived. These people were heroic!! Without their quick and educated responses, many more people would have died.
I am angered that the media is so eager to report this story that they are being so disgraceful to the victims and survivors. These people need support and compassion. They do not need to be stereotyped and degraded in the media or by anyone else. Shame on you!! Didn’t your mother teach you better manners than that?
I’m not done though – there is way more information about snowmobilers in respect to the Big Iron Shootout and Revelstoke that the media hasn’t covered yet. While they gleefully report that this is an unsanctioned (I’ll get to that in a moment) event drew 200 sledders (despite the grave warnings from the avalanche center), what they aren’t telling you is that there are likely double that number of snowmobilers who DIDN’T attend this year’s event – because of the conditions. Snowmobilers who DID heed the warnings.
As I was reading the snowmobiling forums and Facebook on Saturday evening, the same story continued to repeat itself – people concerned about friends who generally attend the BIS, those friends checking in and saying they didn’t go this year, or they were in the area but avoided Turbo Bowl because of the warnings and the conditions they were already aware of. You see, back country snowmobilers are often in the back country two or more days a week and already have first hand insight to the conditions.
Regarding the word being used in almost every story – unsanctioned. It is true that there is no sanctioning organization for this event. Not the town of Revelstoke nor the Revelstoke Snowmobile Club. However, just because it’s not sanctioned does not mean that it is illegal.
Snowmobilers often gather in large groups to ride with friends who are generally dispersed all over Canada and the United States. I personally rode with a group of 30 riders at an “unsanctioned” event in Wyoming. Oops! I also rode at another “unsanctioned” event, ummm, better make that two, here in Oregon. Rest assured, I am not a criminal nor are any of the snowmobilers that I know.
The internet keeps the snowmobiling community connected. There are 1,000s of unsanctioned events that simply start by someone saying, “hey – who wants to ride this weekend?” Next thing ya know, word spreads about how much fun everyone had and it snowballs from there (pun intended). They grow into these annual events…”same date next year?”
So, here’s what happens next – the date is set. Motel rooms are reserved. Trucks and sleds are fueled. Vacation time is requested. Then individuals, families and social groups all head into a remote mountain town. They buy. They buy. They buy a lot!! They spend money – because they can.
It is with great sadness that I have to dispel the myth that mountain snowmobilers are a bunch of rednecks. All you really need to do is add up the costs to outfit an individual – much less an entire family – with a sled and the proper safety gear. Since this article is really targeted at those individuals who are not mountain sledders, I will point out that everything – got that?…EVERYTHING, on your person and on your sled is part and parcel of your survival gear. From your gloves, to your coat, to the sunglasses in your backpack. Trying to save a dime in buying a coat is really not advised, when that coat may be the only thing protecting you from the elements if you have to stay overnight. With all that said, here’s a run down of estimated costs of the primary accessories needed to sled in the back country.
· Sled $6,000-$14,000 USD
· Clothes (including base, mid and outer layers) $800-$1,200 USD
· Boots/gloves/helmet $245-$800 USD
· Backpack (non-avy) $60-$120 USD
· Backpack (avy) $1,000-$1,200 USD
· Body armor (tek vest, knee pads, etc) $60-$300 USD
· Beacon, probe, shovel $250-$400 USD
This doesn’t include a lot of items, such as matches, radios, compass, fire starter, flashlight…and the list goes on, and the costs add up. It would be GREATLY appreciated if the media would STOP perpetuating the myths that sledders are a bunch of couch-potato, ignoranamuses. Because it’s simply not true.
The fact is that mountain sledders do not fit a stereotypical mold. They come from all areas of the business world…from CEOs to millworkers. They have families and they are single. They are old and they are young. They are world-class athletes and they are physically handicapped. They survive corporate down-sizing, cancer, divorces, etc….just like everyone else.
The thing that binds us together is our great love for the back country in the winter. We are modern day adventurers. We want to get out there – in the mountains. We want to explore and play and wonder at the beauty. We love the snow! When it covers the trees, when it flies up in our faces, when it gives us a playground of vast proportions. That is when we are in heaven. That is when our souls glow.
We are not anything that the media will have tried to make us out to be in the last couple of days. We are so much more. It’s truly a pity that the media isn’t interested in shining any light on the truth.
The truth is - the Turbo Bowl avy survivors are HEROS. We in the snowmobiling communities – far and wide – are praying for the full recovery of those injured, in body and in spirit. And finally, with great compassion and sympathy we extend our heartfelt condolences to the families of those who perished.
I wrote this and I am Susie Rainsberry, Oregon resident, back-country snowmobiler. I provide free and complete liberty for others to share and disperse this message. The time has come to stop the slandering of good individuals just because they ride snowmobiles.
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It’s been several days now since the tragic avalanche at Turbo Hill. The latest reports are that two are deceased and three are still hospitalized. The media is also reporting that there were 200 snowmobilers at Turbo at the time of the slide. The avalanche is reported to have been up to 150 meters wide and 10 meters deep. That, my friends, is a BIG avalanche!
I’d like to put some perspective on this – a snowmobiler’s perspective. Apparently no one in the media is a snowmobiler or is concerned about taking the time to gather the facts – not just the bad, but the good as well. And there is good to be heard in this story. If you ask a snowmobiler – they’d be able to tell you what that is. But either the media isn’t asking, or has heard it and doesn’t feel that the facts are newsworthy.
However, I feel these facts are the MOST newsworthy topic of this entire tragedy.
Saturday afternoon, following the close of the events for the annual Big Iron Shootout, a large group of snowmobilers headed to Turbo Bowl to make a run at the hill. As the riders lined up at the bottom of the hill, the mass of spectators parked their sleds and prepared to enjoy the show. As one of the sleds turned out towards the top, the hillside gave way. Thundering down the mountain it came – taking sleds and riders with it. This powerful act of nature happens in a split second. There is no time to react.
The time to react is as soon as it stops. And react – with speed and knowledge – in the midst of chaos – is what those sledders did. There were no typical first responders to this catastrophe in the immediate moments following the avalanche. Only snowmobilers. Those same snowmobilers that the media is painting with a broad stroke as crazy, ignorant, thrill-seekers.
As a back country snowmobiler myself, I can tell you that ignorant is not a word that I would use to describe those survivors. I would call them heroes! And justly so. In the midst of what may have been the most terrifying minutes of their lives, they turned their avalanche beacons to search, they got out their probes and their shovels and they started rescue protocols IMMEDIATELY – likely while in a state of shock. They dug out those that were buried, they triaged the injured, they administered first aid, they built fires to keep them warm until the helicopters arrived. These people were heroic!! Without their quick and educated responses, many more people would have died.
I am angered that the media is so eager to report this story that they are being so disgraceful to the victims and survivors. These people need support and compassion. They do not need to be stereotyped and degraded in the media or by anyone else. Shame on you!! Didn’t your mother teach you better manners than that?
I’m not done though – there is way more information about snowmobilers in respect to the Big Iron Shootout and Revelstoke that the media hasn’t covered yet. While they gleefully report that this is an unsanctioned (I’ll get to that in a moment) event drew 200 sledders (despite the grave warnings from the avalanche center), what they aren’t telling you is that there are likely double that number of snowmobilers who DIDN’T attend this year’s event – because of the conditions. Snowmobilers who DID heed the warnings.
As I was reading the snowmobiling forums and Facebook on Saturday evening, the same story continued to repeat itself – people concerned about friends who generally attend the BIS, those friends checking in and saying they didn’t go this year, or they were in the area but avoided Turbo Bowl because of the warnings and the conditions they were already aware of. You see, back country snowmobilers are often in the back country two or more days a week and already have first hand insight to the conditions.
Regarding the word being used in almost every story – unsanctioned. It is true that there is no sanctioning organization for this event. Not the town of Revelstoke nor the Revelstoke Snowmobile Club. However, just because it’s not sanctioned does not mean that it is illegal.
Snowmobilers often gather in large groups to ride with friends who are generally dispersed all over Canada and the United States. I personally rode with a group of 30 riders at an “unsanctioned” event in Wyoming. Oops! I also rode at another “unsanctioned” event, ummm, better make that two, here in Oregon. Rest assured, I am not a criminal nor are any of the snowmobilers that I know.
The internet keeps the snowmobiling community connected. There are 1,000s of unsanctioned events that simply start by someone saying, “hey – who wants to ride this weekend?” Next thing ya know, word spreads about how much fun everyone had and it snowballs from there (pun intended). They grow into these annual events…”same date next year?”
So, here’s what happens next – the date is set. Motel rooms are reserved. Trucks and sleds are fueled. Vacation time is requested. Then individuals, families and social groups all head into a remote mountain town. They buy. They buy. They buy a lot!! They spend money – because they can.
It is with great sadness that I have to dispel the myth that mountain snowmobilers are a bunch of rednecks. All you really need to do is add up the costs to outfit an individual – much less an entire family – with a sled and the proper safety gear. Since this article is really targeted at those individuals who are not mountain sledders, I will point out that everything – got that?…EVERYTHING, on your person and on your sled is part and parcel of your survival gear. From your gloves, to your coat, to the sunglasses in your backpack. Trying to save a dime in buying a coat is really not advised, when that coat may be the only thing protecting you from the elements if you have to stay overnight. With all that said, here’s a run down of estimated costs of the primary accessories needed to sled in the back country.
· Sled $6,000-$14,000 USD
· Clothes (including base, mid and outer layers) $800-$1,200 USD
· Boots/gloves/helmet $245-$800 USD
· Backpack (non-avy) $60-$120 USD
· Backpack (avy) $1,000-$1,200 USD
· Body armor (tek vest, knee pads, etc) $60-$300 USD
· Beacon, probe, shovel $250-$400 USD
This doesn’t include a lot of items, such as matches, radios, compass, fire starter, flashlight…and the list goes on, and the costs add up. It would be GREATLY appreciated if the media would STOP perpetuating the myths that sledders are a bunch of couch-potato, ignoranamuses. Because it’s simply not true.
The fact is that mountain sledders do not fit a stereotypical mold. They come from all areas of the business world…from CEOs to millworkers. They have families and they are single. They are old and they are young. They are world-class athletes and they are physically handicapped. They survive corporate down-sizing, cancer, divorces, etc….just like everyone else.
The thing that binds us together is our great love for the back country in the winter. We are modern day adventurers. We want to get out there – in the mountains. We want to explore and play and wonder at the beauty. We love the snow! When it covers the trees, when it flies up in our faces, when it gives us a playground of vast proportions. That is when we are in heaven. That is when our souls glow.
We are not anything that the media will have tried to make us out to be in the last couple of days. We are so much more. It’s truly a pity that the media isn’t interested in shining any light on the truth.
The truth is - the Turbo Bowl avy survivors are HEROS. We in the snowmobiling communities – far and wide – are praying for the full recovery of those injured, in body and in spirit. And finally, with great compassion and sympathy we extend our heartfelt condolences to the families of those who perished.
I wrote this and I am Susie Rainsberry, Oregon resident, back-country snowmobiler. I provide free and complete liberty for others to share and disperse this message. The time has come to stop the slandering of good individuals just because they ride snowmobiles.
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media helping us out a little
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-co...avalanche-warnings-snowmobile-revelstoke.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-co...avalanche-warnings-snowmobile-revelstoke.html
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clutch man
Well-known member
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This post is to let people know what happend, it is not here to pass blame. Give support to the victim here, they were all victims. There our a few on here trying to pass blame this is not the place for that and you know who you our.
My thought our with the people that lossed a love one and for the people that got hurt. There our some heros here too and for that i am grateful. My hat goes off to the people that were ther to save lives. THANK YOU
This post is to let people know what happend, it is not here to pass blame. Give support to the victim here, they were all victims. There our a few on here trying to pass blame this is not the place for that and you know who you our.
My thought our with the people that lossed a love one and for the people that got hurt. There our some heros here too and for that i am grateful. My hat goes off to the people that were ther to save lives. THANK YOU
Umm, besides the point but doesn't Wiegle fly out of Blue River?...
And no, they don't do avy control, they assess the slopes, which many sledders also do and did that day.
I would like to remind everybody, that while we are on these sites bickering and looking like a bunch of thugs, pencil pushers are considering new laws.
These people are using the word BACKCOUNTRY very loosely, and I am not sure that these people that make these laws and rules understand that there are thousand and thousands of acres that are in the “backcountry” that are NOT prone to avalanches. I hope that they are not considering things like restricting ALL access when there are avy warnings out, (sounds crazy, but I have seen crazier things from desk jockeys that do not know what they are talking about)
I was at the avy site on Saturday, and I would like to commend all the snowmobilers there on a fantastic job done in the midst of such a major tragedy, The bulk of the people there had the necessary gear, and did their best in using it, and getting the job done, helping complete strangers in most cases, A JOB WELL DONE PEOPLE, the snowmobilers had everyone dug out and first aid attended to,(to the best of ability with limited resources) well before the first heli landed with SAR. For people to say that snowmobilers are uneducated and unprepared for avy is completely ridiculous.
I will keep my personal opinions to myself on the should of, would of, could of situation. It is easy for people who were not there to come up with all sorts of BS in a hindsight 20 20 situation.
SAR once they arrived and took over also did a very good job, they were quick to get organized and start getting people off the mountain, I know that many of those people are volunteers, and I would like to thank them for the time they put into training and callouts.
My thoughts are with all the victims families all day long, (don't even know what else to say
)
Anyway, pay attention to the news. I do not know what to do about it, but what is coming down the line with laws etc, will not be good.
These people are using the word BACKCOUNTRY very loosely, and I am not sure that these people that make these laws and rules understand that there are thousand and thousands of acres that are in the “backcountry” that are NOT prone to avalanches. I hope that they are not considering things like restricting ALL access when there are avy warnings out, (sounds crazy, but I have seen crazier things from desk jockeys that do not know what they are talking about)
I was at the avy site on Saturday, and I would like to commend all the snowmobilers there on a fantastic job done in the midst of such a major tragedy, The bulk of the people there had the necessary gear, and did their best in using it, and getting the job done, helping complete strangers in most cases, A JOB WELL DONE PEOPLE, the snowmobilers had everyone dug out and first aid attended to,(to the best of ability with limited resources) well before the first heli landed with SAR. For people to say that snowmobilers are uneducated and unprepared for avy is completely ridiculous.
I will keep my personal opinions to myself on the should of, would of, could of situation. It is easy for people who were not there to come up with all sorts of BS in a hindsight 20 20 situation.
SAR once they arrived and took over also did a very good job, they were quick to get organized and start getting people off the mountain, I know that many of those people are volunteers, and I would like to thank them for the time they put into training and callouts.
My thoughts are with all the victims families all day long, (don't even know what else to say
)Anyway, pay attention to the news. I do not know what to do about it, but what is coming down the line with laws etc, will not be good.
if you are wanting to have a discussion on this avalanche. I have seen in the past that group dynamics play a huge role. How did the group dynamics affect this slide?
In the avalanche world, group dynamics play a very large role.
In the avalanche world, group dynamics play a very large role.
1.) You learn that in snowmobile avalanche training
2.) You learn that in snowmobile avalanche training
3.) You learn that in snowmobile avalanche training
4.) You learn that in snowmobile avalanche training
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polarisaddict
New member
my respects to all, this is a huge tragedy for all. and i cant believe the great disrespect going on tho. this is a time for morning and reflection. not blame. im just gonna leave it at that and add my great respects too all again.
OT, please have some respect for the families and victims involved in this tragedy, and find another time or place to voice your opinions, which clearly lack any compassion. I lost a very close friend of mine in a snowmobile accident about a month ago, in a head on collision with another rider, another one of our very good friends. There were a couple people, who had no connection to the people involved and had no understanding of what actually happened, that wanted to play the blame game in Scotty's death. I cannot tell you how much unnecessary pain that caused and how much it angered me. It was a freak accident between two safe riders, who had ridden thousands of miles together, and two seconds would have made all the difference. The thing with snowmobiling is that it is a risky sport, and yes it is true that many of us fall into the mindset of "it can't happen to me". I know differently now; Scotty's death changed me. But I also know why people participate in this sport, why I love being in the backcountry, and I'm aware of the risks and make every effort to mitigate those risks.
The people at Revy were out there because that is what they loved to do, and judging from their response in the immediate moments following the avalanche they were well equipped and well prepared. Many lives were saved because of that. Playing the what if game, and trying to place blame on anyone does absolutely no good. Yes, lessons can and will be learned from this tragedy, both by how the avalanche was triggered and just as much, if not more, by how efficient and heroic the response was.
I think if any of your friends or relatives were involved in this you'd be acting a little bit differently, perhaps you'd have some compassion. Right now we need to come together as a snowmobile community in support of everyone affected by this tragic event. The people that passed, as well as the people that are injured, would not want blame to be passed around like this. Please just have some consideration.
WTF....If you have a happy hour at your bar and I drive off and kill someone is it your fault..... Sweet sign me up so you can go to jail and I have no responsibilty for taking the chance even though I knew it could be dangerous.
STUPID....
I am quoting this for "David R". What's up with the negative rep for that?
It is a phrase that avy experts, educators and many other people use to help people understand that if you are involved in an Avy, you have made a mistake somewhere along the way in your choices.
How educated are you about this?
You think people are involved in avalanches because it's fate or God's will or something like that? It's a pure and total accident that a person who is recreating is caught in an avy?
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~Rowdy~
Active member
Hey Everyone!
These are just my thoughts and beliefs on what happened in Revelstoke. I was in Revy when it happened, and out of a 5 day trip that was the day I decided to take off so I am feeling pretty lucky.
It is my belief that regulation is not the answer but education. Also there needs to be some personal accountability taken for all those out sledding whether your riding with 2 people or 200.
If you are out in the back country you need at bare minimum to have a beacon, probe and shovel. However, just having those items is not good enough, you need to be able to know how to use them. This is where avalanche training is key. It's my first season sledding and that was the first thing I did after purchasing a beacon even though I had taken an avalanche twice before (6 years ago and 3 years ago). I spent the money and took it again.
Besides taking a course, you should update it every few years when procedures, practices and gear changes. People get complacent in life after doing something for so long and adopt the "It won't happen to me attitude." which is dangerous for everyone around them.
I stand behind O-Zone 100% and don't believe this tragedy can be blamed on anyone. When you point a finger at someone else, you have 4 pointing right back at you.
These are just MY own personal thoughts on this and they aren't meant to offend, but to make people think. Get training, take calculated risks, be smart about your actions, and THINK.
This slide was going to happen whether or not this event happened, it just happened to be the same weekend, which drew more people to one location.
To the victims and any injured my heart goes out to you!
~Krista~
These are just my thoughts and beliefs on what happened in Revelstoke. I was in Revy when it happened, and out of a 5 day trip that was the day I decided to take off so I am feeling pretty lucky.
It is my belief that regulation is not the answer but education. Also there needs to be some personal accountability taken for all those out sledding whether your riding with 2 people or 200.
If you are out in the back country you need at bare minimum to have a beacon, probe and shovel. However, just having those items is not good enough, you need to be able to know how to use them. This is where avalanche training is key. It's my first season sledding and that was the first thing I did after purchasing a beacon even though I had taken an avalanche twice before (6 years ago and 3 years ago). I spent the money and took it again.
Besides taking a course, you should update it every few years when procedures, practices and gear changes. People get complacent in life after doing something for so long and adopt the "It won't happen to me attitude." which is dangerous for everyone around them.
I stand behind O-Zone 100% and don't believe this tragedy can be blamed on anyone. When you point a finger at someone else, you have 4 pointing right back at you.
These are just MY own personal thoughts on this and they aren't meant to offend, but to make people think. Get training, take calculated risks, be smart about your actions, and THINK.
This slide was going to happen whether or not this event happened, it just happened to be the same weekend, which drew more people to one location.
To the victims and any injured my heart goes out to you!
~Krista~
Backcountryislife is absolutely correct. There's a lot of denial among the sledding community. But he articulated his thoughts in a way that people can accept the criticism.
You, on the other hand, are doing it in a way calculated to offend. Don't you understand? Its not about you. (Hopefully) its about understanding whether mistakes were made, and if so, what we can learn from this sad incident so those mistakes aren't made again.
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