Propane on 2 stroke turbo idea.

[Wheel House Motorsports]

i havent given up on the idea, just the cost to me as a college student is really high...hrmmm my brain just engaged... propane = clean fuel, i go to an engineering school. there seems to be a never ending amount of money funding hte "green" movement... i wonder if i could get a grant or something to do a complete propane conversion. we got plenty of software engineers who are damn good, and could design a control box. I would basically need something like what megasquirt and all that does for fuel. basically a new ECU and then design the injection system for propane instead of gas, and just when it gets designed make shure its easily compatable with boost.

 

[PistonBroke]

dude

Never stifle your creative and investigative thoughts - great things can happen from "crazy" ideas.

Keep on it, I encourage you.

PistonBroke

 

[Trashy]

i havent given up on the idea, just the cost to me as a college student is really high...hrmmm my brain just engaged... propane = clean fuel, i go to an engineering school. there seems to be a never ending amount of money funding hte "green" movement... i wonder if i could get a grant or something to do a complete propane conversion. we got plenty of software engineers who are damn good, and could design a control box. I would basically need something like what megasquirt and all that does for fuel. basically a new ECU and then design the injection system for propane instead of gas, and just when it gets designed make shure its easily compatable with boost.

If you want to score with a grant you need to go where the puck is going, not where it 's been, so to speak... In laymans terms, 4 stroke. Zero chance of getting "green" support of a 2 stroke project...

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

yeah... i didnt even think about htat.... hrmm, propane vetor motor. i know carbondady fit a vector motor in an RT.... hmmm. im still thinking about my options, just throwing ideas out there.

 

[Trashy]

didn't say give up on the 2-smoke, just that getting a grant would be difficult...

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

yeah, i know, theres a guy who lives against the edge of campus that has a wrecked RX-1, it tagged a tree, get that motor in there. right now im just thinking. i could convert my sled to a MAF liquid injection system, throw the injectors in the same spot, the cylinders like on the SDI motor, the injection of such a cool flow right into the side of the piston and transfer ports seems like it would cool the crap out of it.

 

[heinracing]

yeah, i know, theres a guy who lives against the edge of campus that has a wrecked RX-1, it tagged a tree, get that motor in there. right now im just thinking. i could convert my sled to a MAF liquid injection system, throw the injectors in the same spot, the cylinders like on the SDI motor, the injection of such a cool flow right into the side of the piston and transfer ports seems like it would cool the crap out of it.

not to discourage you but there is alot just to building the standard turbo system

if you plan on doing this you should have a back up sled to go out and have fun on. it wouldn't be so bad if you bought a kit that was perfected then you started tweaking on it but your starting from scratch on everything. for the money and time you would have invested in the propane you can burn alot of 110 race fuel at higher boost levels and have lots and lots of fun

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

oh i know, i i have plenty of things to setup the whole turbo, parts lists down to hose connectors and whatnot, about 2 years worth of reading and idea gather. having been constantly rebuilding my truck for about 4 years has allowed me to accumulate a TON of random junk like chunks of pipe, hoses, connectors, and lots of stuff like that.

the propane idea was just insiped by by my buddies truck which runs on both propane and gas, so it put the idea in my head, my goal would be to just run straight propane NA, then boost afterwards. It would be more of a novelty than anything practical.

Im still very set on the idea of a propane for boost, and gas combo. I have been looking at a way to make a megasquirt efi controller work to run some propane vapor injection. the megasquirt setup is basically 100% user programable based on whatever sensors are hooked up. I would go with propane vapor injection ( much safer and easier to control) then run the propane injectors off of the megasquirt, the injectors are similar to normal fuel injectors, just designed for gas, get a MAP sensor for the megasquirt setup and as the boost keeps coming, add more fuel, OR i could wire in a MAF sensor and add fuel accordingly..... and at this point i have reinvented the wheel and might as well rip out the entire ECU and program my own... argh.

 

[moyiesledhead]

270 times, but close enough.
And you are correct, thats why even most injected systems, even the one on my race car, are vapor injection...

Jeez, I gotta read my posts before I post 'em. My brain was saying 270, but my fingers apparantly didn't listen! Pretty embarassing for a guy that teaches propane certification courses! Thanks for the correction!

 

[Trashy]

Wow, we haven't had a B149.5 course anywhere in Alberta in years...
i didn't know they were doing them in BC anymore either.

 

[moyiesledhead]

Wow, we haven't had a B149.5 course anywhere in Alberta in years...
i didn't know they were doing them in BC anymore either.

100-1 actually, for forklifts and cylinder fill. I'm certified by PTI to do courses strictly for our employees on site (Pulp Mill). If you go to one of the local stations in town you'd be hard pressed to find any of those kids that have ever taken a course, much less have a certificate...but we're a pretty easy target for worksafeBC here, so we keep our certifications current.