Powder Jack..A Must Have In The Steep And Deep

[arcticman31]

Be Sure to post a picture of your missing teeth when that cheap knock off breaks and removes your dental work That will be much more entertaining. If you paid 350 for your original highjacker you got hosed. Out here in colorado we can get the original for about 250. Plus if you have any issues with it Bill fixes it on the spot or just hands us a new one. Yeah maybe he should have got a patent but The Powderjerk should have just come up with his own product....But hey some people shop for price not quality I guess so to each his own.

 

[jtoo]

Hey, I don't get the need? I've been stuck bad, but never wasn't out in a hours worth of work, and that was when I was temporarily alone, I don't ever ride completly alone. What kind of stuck are you when you need a jack?

 

[T-Bone]

Hey, I don't get the need? I've been stuck bad, but never wasn't out in a hours worth of work, and that was when I was temporarily alone, I don't ever ride completly alone. What kind of stuck are you when you need a jack?

Maybe some people don't want to dig and wrestle with a 500-600 snowmobile for an hour? Just a guess.

 

[jtoo]

o.k., but that one hour stick is one in one hundred, most are 5 to 10 minutes, and friends do come in handy at times like these, "if you can't use a friend from time to time what good are they?"

 

[Cujo]

yep...in the body business we call them "monkey on a stick"

http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/alc77043.html

I was thinking the same thing. Never could figure out why they called it "monkey on a stick". We also call it a friction jack.

 

[skibreeze]

o.k., but that one hour stick is one in one hundred, most are 5 to 10 minutes, and friends do come in handy at times like these, "if you can't use a friend from time to time what good are they?"

Why waste an hour when it is unneeded? Why waste all the enegry in the process? Why not have one to just be prepared? You never know what kind of predicament you might get into.

 

[m8magicandmystery]

i can;t figure it out...a regular Jack-all is 10 times the material of these jacks..they can lift two tons...!!!...they only cost 70 bucks canadian for the tall one..granted it won;t work for a sled jack...but its 10 times the worker and very safe...so why so much money for this crap that is being sold as sled jacks..??

 

[Snowmark]

jack

cost more cause small home based operations pay much more for materials than some factory in China.....Now, I have finally seen the cheaper jack, side by side with the High-Jacker and the differences are, on the less expensive jack, the pole is a hollow standard aluminum pipe, it bends easily and stays bent, the pole on the High-Jacker is a solid, aircraft grade piece of aluminum stock, I saw Bill lay one end on the floor and the other on his footwell and stand on the pole, it really will bend quite a ways and spring right back to straight...the other main difference, the mechanism is all metal on the cheaper jack while the High-Jacker has the body of the mechanism made of a tough plastic type stuff, what this means is that ice will completely encase an all aluminum array...pole, springs and release lever will all be in a chunk of ice, including the mounting hole...on the High-jacker the ice may stick to the springs and pole some but not to the plastic body of the mechanism...do not underestimate how tough ice can be to remove while your sitting in a gully, in a blizzard at the end of the day...third difference is the base plate...High-jacker is a bit larger and much stronger as it has added bends in the metal for strength...the other is just a square piece of alum. maybe 8x8x1/8 thick... High-jacker comes with strong,nylon straps, the other with a cheap,red plastic rope....so ya get what ya pay for and good luck to both.

 

[garciava]

the high jacker is well worth the money. It has saved me from hours of digging several times. No way I would ride with out one.

Bought two more from Bill yesterday at the Denver snowmobile expo. One for my sons sled and one for a buddy

 

[KFD070]

Hey, I don't get the need? I've been stuck bad, but never wasn't out in a hours worth of work, and that was when I was temporarily alone, I don't ever ride completly alone. What kind of stuck are you when you need a jack?

I don't ride alone but I do ride quite a bit with just the wife. In the case of a good stuck, she's not much help. My back is a mess but I really want to keep riding for few more years. Other factor is, even if you can get your sled unstuck in 5 minutes there's good chance you're gonna have to work pretty hard for that 5 minutes. Altitude + snowmobile clothing + exercise = sweat. Even with good breathable clothing your body temp will drop when you're damp in cold weather. Four of us got into it pretty bad last year and spent 60 minutes digging out 4 sleds. The weather turned for the worse as we were digging out. I was soaked to the bone with sweat and I got chilled really bad. 30 minute ride to the cabin, fire and drying out took over an hour to warm up. Yeah I know....I'm a Pu$$y! (I know that's coming from someone any minute) but really beginning to believe that working smarter not harder is the way to go.

 

[skibreeze]

cost more cause small home based operations pay much more for materials than some factory in China.....Now, I have finally seen the cheaper jack, side by side with the High-Jacker and the differences are, on the less expensive jack, the pole is a hollow standard aluminum pipe, it bends easily and stays bent, the pole on the High-Jacker is a solid, aircraft grade piece of aluminum stock, I saw Bill lay one end on the floor and the other on his footwell and stand on the pole, it really will bend quite a ways and spring right back to straight...the other main difference, the mechanism is all metal on the cheaper jack while the High-Jacker has the body of the mechanism made of a tough plastic type stuff, what this means is that ice will completely encase an all aluminum array...pole, springs and release lever will all be in a chunk of ice, including the mounting hole...on the High-jacker the ice may stick to the springs and pole some but not to the plastic body of the mechanism...do not underestimate how tough ice can be to remove while your sitting in a gully, in a blizzard at the end of the day...third difference is the base plate...High-jacker is a bit larger and much stronger as it has added bends in the metal for strength...the other is just a square piece of alum. maybe 8x8x1/8 thick... High-jacker comes with strong,nylon straps, the other with a cheap,red plastic rope....so ya get what ya pay for and good luck to both.

I heard that Bill had his jack and the copy crap at the show. I have also seen the 2 sided by side and the Highjacker is worth the difference unless you just like to buy cheap stuff. You get what you pay for.

 

[sledskiing]

I heard that Bill had his jack and the copy crap at the show. I have also seen the 2 sided by side and the Highjacker is worth the difference unless you just like to buy cheap stuff. You get what you pay for.

Yes it was pretty interesting. Prop the jack up on one side and stand in the middle. The powder jack would bend with very little weight and you could bounce on the hi-jacker.

From my experience the people these are the type of people who are using a jack

1. Fat Overweight people like myself
2. People who ride with avid jack users
3. The more advanced technical tree riders

If you play only powder fields and open bowls than you won't see the value of the jack. It's a pretty common type of rider.. Ride the trails to the bowls or ride the trails to the powder fields.

And for everybody on here who is evaluating the 2 options (Hi-Jack vs Powder Jack). I have 2 friends who purchased the powder jack last season. We've run them side by side a number of times. It's obvious which one is better. The Powder Jack is much cheaper in price. That's probably all the creator is thinking. The hi-jacker was created for a different reason. I think they each have their market. I do however think it is pretty lame that the "copy cat" lives less than an hour away from the Hi-Jacker creator. And these guys don't live in a highly populated area like Denver where copy cats are a little more acceptable or common.

 

[arcticman31]

I heard that Bill had his jack and the copy crap at the show. I have also seen the 2 sided by side and the Highjacker is worth the difference unless you just like to buy cheap stuff. You get what you pay for.

The difference between the two jacks side by side was Day and night for sure Bill and I bent the powder jack like a pipe claner with little effort The thing has a hollow shaft and only lifts 5/8 of an inch at a time. Bills jack is nearly impossible to damage, you can use his for getting unstuck, as a winch, prybar, Jousting sword ect and it will take antthing you throw at it glad I have seen the difference now.

 

[colorado logger]

Jacks

The difference between the two jacks side by side was Day and night for sure Bill and I bent the powder jack like a pipe claner with little effort The thing has a hollow shaft and only lifts 5/8 of an inch at a time. Bills jack is nearly impossible to damage, you can use his for getting unstuck, as a winch, prybar, Jousting sword ect and it will take antthing you throw at it glad I have seen the difference now.

I also saw this so called powder jack, what Darren and everyone has said is fact. It is not worth carrying or mounting to a sled. If I had bought one of these I would try to get my money back. You can tell just by looking at the powder jack they did not do any R&D. I would be willing to bet the pow jack will not lift a stuck sled successfully even one time.

 

[1BIGCAT]

I also saw that pos powder jack at the snow show and I would be embarrassed to have that thing mounted on my sled. The difference is like night and day!

 

[SRXSRULE]

"3. The more advanced technical tree riders"

This is exactly why I own one. I have the "GOOD" jack and ride a big ole tank, Yamaha Apex.

Heres is the best situation where the jack saved my butt and showed its true strength. I got stuck crossing a creek, I made it to the other bank but the track broke through the snow. I leave the strap on my rear bumper all the time so its ready when I need it. While standing on my tunnle/seat I put the jack in the creek bottom and lifted my sled with me standing on the back of it to keep from getting wet. With it in the air I shoveled snow into the hole, then kept packing it and adding more snow. I then was able to push it off the jack and ride it out. Eric

 

[BackCountryBob]

I did the side by side at the show--Mark's description is right on--did not hesitate and bought Bill's jack.

BCB

 

[minet]

ok ,, pick up a solid allum rod at the metalyard ,, 10 bucks

is it still worth the 150 $ diff?

 

[skibreeze]

Hey Sidehill, You don't approve of my posts? You give me thumbs down because I state the truth? You coward, post your opinion for all to see. The copy jack is a cheap, exact copy, not close to, but exact copy. Cheap azz materials were used, but it's design was taken directly from Bill. I state the facts, yet you feel the need to give me bad rep. Up yours!

 

[tudizzle]

Another reason to buy the High Jacker.

At the snowshow a guy who was looking at the Jack's made a comment that the corners on the newest model were more rounded off, not like the one he had purchased. Without hesitation Bill said "send it to me and I'll give you a new one." The customer was only joking but I think Bill was ready to hand him a brand new one then wait for the other to show up. That is just the kind of guy he is.

People who run their business with this much respect for their customers earn our business. Especially when they back that up with a top notch, "quality" product.

A side by side pic of the two would settle any dispute. Anybody have pics they could post up of Bill's High Jacker? Side by side the knock off is a joke.