Polaris PRO v.s. 2011 skidoo

[greasemonkey3406]

The e tech does not have 20 more hp than the pro. Youre comparing the 2010.5 etech to the pre production pro r 800. There is actually only a 10 hp difference.

out with two pros over christmas, after a few days riding it was easy to see the differences, pro was underpowered compared to etec, the etec pulled on every hill over the pro, but were equal for sidehilling, i have a real problem with the bars on the pro, but i ride the etec

if the pro got the 20 extra hp the etec has, they would be real close, but then i heard the etecs can get more as well

but over all who ever tells you a pro will work a etec on a straight up climb is a



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[fredw]

ok, i thought the pro was 140s and the etec was 160s, thought i seen that on dynoports web site

 

[AndrettiDog]

out with two pros over christmas, after a few days riding it was easy to see the differences, pro was underpowered compared to etec, the etec pulled on every hill over the pro, but were equal for sidehilling, i have a real problem with the bars on the pro, but i ride the etec

if the pro got the 20 extra hp the etec has, they would be real close, but then i heard the etecs can get more as well

but over all who ever tells you a pro will work a etec on a straight up climb is a
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Interesting...that's the first person's post that I read that said there was that much difference between them. DynoPort dyno'd the Pro at 150 with ethanol plug in.

 

[08Alaska800]

fredw bleeds yellow

 

[fredw]

just read this on the shootout....................

All sleds this year are dyno certified as stock by DTR. This year, the only issue was that
both Polaris ProR sleds came out of the crate with non-ethanol plugs (5% leaner mixture)
to make better than normal HP with the 10% ethanol 93 octane fuel we were using in all
sleds (it actually tested here at a more typical 8% ethanol). But even though both ProR
sleds showed more HP than the ProR stockers we tested earlier due to leaner A/F ratio,
we have confidence that the engines were bone stock. After the dyno certification and
prior to the Shootout, George Taylor installed the proper ethanol plugs in the ProR sleds.
Keep in mind, also, that the Polaris and SkiDoos were in break-in mode that should
reduce HP by a few percent. The Cats are said to have no such breakin mode, and the fact
the HP is a bit lower than some 2010 model year sleds may be due to more conservative
calibration.

 

[fredw]

it says the pro hp was with the ethanal fuel plug not installed, this situation leans the machine with the use of ethanal fuel and is not recomened

if you look at the other three times they dynoed the poo with the correct ethanal plug it makes around the 8200 142.6 91.3 to be exact

 

[fredw]

This next sled was a new SkiDoo Etec 800 brought by Tom Ferry of Arctic Adventures
from Rosendale, NY (SE NY), zero miles, and that breakin mode pumping lots of oil and
perhaps extra fuel causing HP to be a bit lower than Billy Howards’ 2010 Etec 800.

2011 154hp out of box

2010 out of box :8100 103.2 159.1

2011 after breakin 163.6

 

[Slick]

Please don't eat the yellow snow....or the yellow excrement that fred is passing off as fact. In our riding group of guys, 9 one day 11 one day this weekend and 7 the previous weekend theres a good mix of everything the majority being Xp's, an 08 a couple 09's, 1 2010, 2 2011 summits and 1 freeride, 2 M8's, 2 Pro's, stock nytro, boosted Apex, mix of 154's and 163's. We've been out a lot, and the Pro's aren't getting beat by the stock anything, in fact the Freeride seems to be at a disadvantage in the deep snow, we assume the track and weight r a factor. The normal Summit the M8's and the Pro's r outdoing the Freeride it seems,might change when the snow sets up. The Pro's are certainly equal to the Cats and Doo's and the general opinion is they are doing better in deeper snow especially at slower speeds thru the more techy stuff but at WOT in the deep up hill, they're quite often the first one up. Another majority opinion is the Pro's are just more fun and certainly less of a problem to clutch to the power, and for a couple die-hard Doo guys its really sucking, gonna be some moddin money spent soon. My opinion, love Poo or hate em, this year ...out of the box and ride, the Pro is hands down best choice. Now don't go crazy here, cause the others are great, nothing really wrong........just not...Best for 2011

 

[Slick]

Oh, and you guys can virtual ride on your dyno's all you want, we ride em in the mountains, seems to be a good test and comparison site.

 

[fredw]

maybe slick you seen different, but i have never seen a sled 10 to 20hp less on the dyno with similar weight and track perform better on the hill

no i dont bleed yellow, but do know what works and does not, and i am saying if power was equal, then sleds would as well

we have way to many doo riders in our camp, and i would love to be first to go poo, but i need something that is somewhat comparable, poo has the chassie, but now needs the hp

i will contack another memeber here that has both, and you can get his read on it as well...

 

[snowmobiler]

xp is 2011 sled of the year

 

[Slick]

maybe slick you seen different, but i have never seen a sled 10 to 20hp less on the dyno with similar weight and track perform better on the hill

no i dont bleed yellow, but do know what works and does not, and i am saying if power was equal, then sleds would as well

we have way to many doo riders in our camp, and i would love to be first to go poo, but i need something that is somewhat comparable, poo has the chassie, but now needs the hp

i will contack another memeber here that has both, and you can get his read on it as well...

You go ahead fred and contact him or whoever else, but I don't need his comments or yours to make my opinion or pass on to others what we're seeing first hand.

 

[Jaynelson]

maybe slick you seen different, but i have never seen a sled 10 to 20hp less on the dyno with similar weight and track perform better on the hill

no i dont bleed yellow, but do know what works and does not, and i am saying if power was equal, then sleds would as well

Out of people who have acutally ridden Pro's, you would be in the minority saying that real world testing shows it down on power......

Mine is definetly not lacking in power compared to my 800R....which ran really strong when the crank stayed in the block.

 

[cascadesnowjunky]

WOW, this thread WAS informative. I say do a little research, ride both if possible, buy one and dont look back!!!!!!

 

[MontanaPowder]

3 ski doo xp, one 860twin pipe 174 and the Pro

I have the following in my stable:
2008 180hp 860 with twin Jaws, wins uphill point shoot
2008 150 hp 800xp 163, a good overall sled
2011 xxxhp etec a very nice sled 155track
2011 xxxhp pro rmk 163 a very nice sled and the funnest for me of all. It is my choice to ride. Is the best out of box clutched sled with best chassis I have found yet. Not saying for all just is for me.

Pro will not touch my big bore in uphill point and shoot, however I have found nothing in my neck of woods I can't go over with the Pro, just may take more runs, same applies for the e tec though.

Again I am not brand loyal just sledded for over 30 years had em all. The pro is just much easier and funner to ride, you must dial it in for your liking, it has taken me 4 rides and 250 technical mountain miles to get to my style. Feels like the e tek has more top end but less bottom, either way they are both nice sleds. Just depends on your style and what you like in a sled. The pro gets up on snow much better and is a better deeep snow choice IMO. I do not like the Pro track for our steep downhills through trees, needs the camo extreme. lug tips bend too easily. If one is not in steep constantly like we are not an issue.

Maybe being a motocrosser it just feels more like a bike than any other I have owned. It does take a bit to get used to, getting more fun though each ride. Handlebars forward for me, front shock spring light setting, rear shock spring heavy setting. Just rode so hard today I can barely get out of chair, what a day. Happy sleddin to all, what a great sport.

 

[550iq]

Take a look how both sleds attach their A-arms to the chassis, then take a look at where the brake disc is located, then see how both turn at the handle bar, then try to take the driven pulley off the Ski-Doo. I am spending time on an XP Ski-Doo and have those observations. Really, one cannot lose with any purchase of a modern sled. Ride safe.

 

[Kambo14]

i have definently come to the conclusion that i will ride both and see what one feels better but i must say i agree with see how they are in the mountains then on the dyno cause that is were i will be riding thanks for all your inputs

 

[Leaf27]

i have definently come to the conclusion that i will ride both and see what one feels better but i must say i agree with see how they are in the mountains then on the dyno cause that is were i will be riding thanks for all your inputs

Cool, let us know how you make out.

 

[8emup]

Rented Ski Doo Etec 154 and Polaris RMK 155 and took them out for the side by side comparison. Both myself and buddy own 07 rev's. At the end of the day he will buy Ski Doo and I will change brands.

I really liked the narrow feel of the Polaris and these sleds are very equal on the hill. The ski Doo has more power on top end especially but the Polaris gets up on the snow better making them very competitive with each other.

In the biggest bowl we rode that day with the deepest snow the drag race was the Ski Doo beating the Polaris by one half sled length and the Polaris rider had 35 lbs on the Ski Doo rider. That is a testament as to how the Polaris gets up on the snow.

Other than that which ever sled the lighter rider got on won. For me the Polaris is a side hilling machine and that gives it the win.

 

[snowdog484]

Just curious, does anyone actually know the true weights of these sleds? Now that they are in our hands someone must have put them on the scales.