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Past m8 riders?
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440dart
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Dont ever buy a lesser quality of sled meaning if your thinking of buying a cheaper sled to learn on dont do it waste of time and money just buy the better sled because 1/2 way through the year your going to wish you had the better sled as your skills get better GET THE SLED YOU TRUELY WANT
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HiWaYman92
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I came off of a 2010 M8 162. Great sled. I was hard core AC. I had two buddies who bought Pro's last year, and I could go JUST ABOUT everywhere they went... other than the last 50 feet on the hill. The pro's just stay up on the snow so well... keep digging and digging without trenching. I could follow them through the trees, but it was just a lot more work to make their lines. Now that I got a pro I'm really impressed. They just handle so great. Power more, power less, they are better than the more powerful M8. They take a bunch less gas and oil too! The only thing better than my 155 Pro would be a 163 Pro!
how are things over in the cat section??? haven't been there in awhile. you should give a pro a ride, might make ya' come join me!!!
Okay. We get it. You have made your point. In fact, you have made your point so many times, I have to wonder if you even have a job? The searches you are telling people to search for show you over and over again telling everybody the sled is junk!!
Comparing the 800 CFI to a 6.2 you definately need your head examined or you need to get off the yank.
I asked you before and you ignored me so I ask you again, What has been your experience with your ownership of a Pro?
Exactly, None!
I think when people are asking for opinions about such sleds, they are expecting real world results from people that actually own the sled in question and THEIR real world experiences. Not people that have only ridden the sled a couple of times, what the hell is a couple of rides mean?
Your precious Arctic Cat is no perfect sled either. Just because I have seen a couple of Clutches go to hell and a few diamond drives take a crap, and 2 motors going out from oil pump issues, does this mean I should go to the M section and tell everybody the same non-sense you keep bringing to the forum everyday. No, because I don't own those sleds that had those issues and I have a life.
You should really do yourself a favor and try to find something more productive than the continual bashing of this sled. Let it go, live life. The time you have spent bashing this sled, would have been more than enough time to build a sled.
I have to ask somebody like you, are you really this bored with life? Are you that unhappy? I know Red Lodge is small but couldn't you make more of an impact in the world than this? Show us that you aren't really this bitter of a person.
Isn't enough, enough?
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High Velocity
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diamonddave, great post !! Couldn't have said it better.
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aebsledder
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You guys are blind, I am not bitter, pi$$ed off or what ever, in fact I am laughing my arse off. I have first hand experience with the pro and how they work, what makes them work, how to make them work better, and watched one drop the piston skirts into the crank case 100ft from the trailer, and no I don't own one, so I must not have a clue. and yes if you hear of problems with a cat, I do want to here about it, that is useful information.
Where in the heII have I ever said the pro was junk, for the blind maybe you could have someone read my first post in this thread and tell me I didn't put the pro on a very high pedestal. How many times to I have to put "IMO" that means my opinion not fact or what ever. You guys basically trash the other sleds constantly, I come on here and praise it then say "but I don't trust this part, not that it doesn't work thats just me" and OMG whine whine whine, trust me I am not bitter and very well entertained.
You should have said, thats his opinion (as in mine) we think its fine and works great, end of story no more comment from me unless asked, but you continual attack me giving more opportunities to put more info out there hurting your cause. My response comes after yours so who is the broken record.
lmao
I still think its a great sled just not for me.
Where in the heII have I ever said the pro was junk, for the blind maybe you could have someone read my first post in this thread and tell me I didn't put the pro on a very high pedestal. How many times to I have to put "IMO" that means my opinion not fact or what ever. You guys basically trash the other sleds constantly, I come on here and praise it then say "but I don't trust this part, not that it doesn't work thats just me" and OMG whine whine whine, trust me I am not bitter and very well entertained.
You should have said, thats his opinion (as in mine) we think its fine and works great, end of story no more comment from me unless asked, but you continual attack me giving more opportunities to put more info out there hurting your cause. My response comes after yours so who is the broken record.
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I still think its a great sled just not for me.
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Slick
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All this and u r still on an 09 Cat, certainly a great sled ...but so yesterday and outdated. Of course thats my opinion, and yes I had one, my first motor went at about 250 miles, way too tight from factory. Agood sled.......but a long long way from the performance and fun factor of a stock Pro.
Sorry OP, your thread was hijacked. This seems to be a typical "which sled is better" thread. Hopefully you are able to see through all the BS and gather enough valuable information to answer your question and make a somewhat informed decision. Regardless of what you chose to do hopefully you have a blast this winter and ride the $hit out of whatever you buy.
WyoBoy, you really think you can win this debate? You're in the Polaris Pro thread. You can state your opinon but when you start to harp on the same thing over and over you become a pest, and people dont like pests... We get it, you can't stand the thought of a Polaris 800 CFI motor surviving a winter, let alone 2 full seasons... You can give your constructive criticism here, but you have done no such thing. Constructive criticism means you provide a solution to a problem, you provided no solution, thus all your saying is criticism. You really expect all these Pro owners to sit and listen to this with no reaction?
Maybe you can open a debate in the fouled plug area of the forum, the place where people discuss things that have no real weight or meaning in the snowmobile world.
Please do not turn this forum into a place where people pi$$ and moan about things like HCS. I actually enjoy logging on to this forum and like to read and research things on here. Please don't wreck that for me or other people looking to get the same out of a forum. This is one of the reasons I have a hard time convincing myself to become a premium member, I don't want to pay to read through all the BS.
I'm not sure if this thread is salvagable or not. Maybe the OP can start a new thread if he wishes to gather more useful information.
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Oregonsledder
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Shell_Guy, the good news is that your dilemma actually is an easy one. You can’t go wrong with either sled you have listed as your choices. This thread has hit on most if not all the points you should probably consider, you just need to filter out the one guy who didn’t come to the thread to help you in any way, he has his own personal agenda and that is always more important than anything else. He loves ANY attention he can get good or bad. Sad but true.
I had a friend a couple of years ago having a hard time trying to decide between two different snowmobile trailers. He felt he only needed a 3 place, but one of his riding partners kept trying to push him to a 4 place. he asked me and I said, just buy the one you want. I would tell you the same thing. Any used sled you buy (or new one) runs the risk of having problems, regardless of brand.
As I said this is an easy one, you will have a blast either way.
I had a friend a couple of years ago having a hard time trying to decide between two different snowmobile trailers. He felt he only needed a 3 place, but one of his riding partners kept trying to push him to a 4 place. he asked me and I said, just buy the one you want. I would tell you the same thing. Any used sled you buy (or new one) runs the risk of having problems, regardless of brand.
As I said this is an easy one, you will have a blast either way.
You can give your constructive criticism here, but you have done no such thing. Constructive criticism means you provide a solution to a problem, you provided no solution, thus all your saying is criticism. You really expect all these Pro owners to sit and listen to this with no reaction?
WTF, maybe you need to read it again. I'm saying its the better sled and if you want to beat it your going to have to mod m8.
You would have to dump money into the m8 to lighten it up and change the suspension to make it handle comparably. For the Pro If I where to get one I would go through the engine check tolerances with a fix kit and wisco's, on everything, add dual egts, fuel controller just to have and a temp readout, then you can monitor it and it should work, but that will do away with the waranty. still not as stout as the cat but will work, and does work as is.
The lack of constructive criticism on this subject is ridiculous, you guys act like its the god of sled right out of the box, don't touch it, its perfect.
But if you clutch it and do some shock work (very simple) its even better, let alone all the mods that are sold for it just like any other sled.
Stock for stock I would take the pro, light mods that don't change hp (clutching, suspension, light weight) I would take the pro, more than that I take the M8.
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A friend of mine asked the same questions about getting a new sled and came off a 09 xp I told him the same stuff, and told him if he can ride a xp he can ride them all. Warned him of possible stuff that could go wrong with each sled on a basis of overall reliability, what was better for what, all my opinion, and said get what you want. He bought a pro and loves it, as do I, its nice having one to ride and since he got it we go a lot of places he wouldn't have on the xp.
I think another guy in that group might be going with one too coming off a 10 xp, not sure on that yet.
I am surprised it took you this long to bad rep me for putting out info
A friend of mine asked the same questions about getting a new sled and came off a 09 xp I told him the same stuff, and told him if he can ride a xp he can ride them all. Warned him of possible stuff that could go wrong with each sled on a basis of overall reliability, what was better for what, all my opinion, and said get what you want. He bought a pro and loves it, as do I, its nice having one to ride and since he got it we go a lot of places he wouldn't have on the xp.
I think another guy in that group might be going with one too coming off a 10 xp, not sure on that yet.
I am surprised it took you this long to bad rep me for putting out info
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You're just figuring this out? You obviously haven't seen his "how a 155" is longer than a 155", because part of the track is slightly off the ground" post.
what part,
polaris built there skid different, its not longer it just puts more track on the ground giving it a larger footprint on the snow than the other sleds the same length, go get your tape measure out and prove me wrong
I really think its cute that you took the time to measure a sled sitting on flat solid ground, and then took even more of your time to post how that measurement has any bearing upon surface area of the track and thus flotation of the skid.
Have you ever seen a sled sitting in powder, do you think your tape measurements while on flat ground have any bearing in this situation?
Have you ever seen a sled sitting in powder, do you think your tape measurements while on flat ground have any bearing in this situation?
You said alot of useful things about the handling differences between the two... then this is the part that gets old.
I'm gonna need a bigger bowl of popcorn
Useful?
Good job.
Really? Even if you had to ride it stock all winter long?
I'm gonna need a bigger bowl of popcorn
Maybe thats the reason we are posting in the Polaris section. You dont see any of us in the Cat section bashing them do you?. We all know your opinion of the Pro, that we all disagree with, so just by you typing IMO doesnt excuse you from ridicule. For hopefully the last time STFU.
Yes I do, even putting ice age rails under a cat puts down a little more from the front of the skid having a quicker arc instead of the angle the stock rails do, and there is a difference, take a 155 vs a 163 and look at the difference in flotation and the only difference is more track on the ground. If I can do it I will try and change a cat 153 to do the same, not sure its possible but if I can we will find out. http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272458&highlight=putting+track
Really? Even if you had to ride it stock all winter long?
I'm gonna need a bigger bowl of popcorn
If I had to.
My personal agenda is to get the most out of any sled.
Arguing approach angle is a different story, though that wasn't the argument you are making.
Just for kicks (and to further illustrate how ridiculous your theory is) you pointed out the difference in flotation between a 155 and a 163, yet the polaris engineers saw fit to tip the rear of the skid up to allow easier turning in marginal snow conditions. They also state this track off the ground situation would not reduce flotation, I'm willing to wager you are nearly the only person who doesn't think you don't know what you are talking about.
Just for kicks (and to further illustrate how ridiculous your theory is) you pointed out the difference in flotation between a 155 and a 163, yet the polaris engineers saw fit to tip the rear of the skid up to allow easier turning in marginal snow conditions. They also state this track off the ground situation would not reduce flotation, I'm willing to wager you are nearly the only person who doesn't think you don't know what you are talking about.
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