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one more year for cat to test the supposed new sled

Those guys make some cool stuff

They also make a rear scissor arm for cats that make running a coil a feasibility on later model twin rails. Stock ones are built for progressive air shocks so don't work that great with most coils.
Yeah they do. The "Slicast" caster adjustment was actually developed and patented by Houser Racing for ATV racing a-arms. They must have a deal worked out with them to either build the arms for them or licensed to use that feature.

Some of us could probably fabricate our own setup similar to that, but unfortunately since it's patented we probably won't see another a-arm company pick it up and make it for our mountain sleds.
 
Yeah they do. The "Slicast" caster adjustment was actually developed and patented by Houser Racing for ATV racing a-arms. They must have a deal worked out with them to either build the arms for them or licensed to use that feature.

Some of us could probably fabricate our own setup similar to that, but unfortunately since it's patented we probably won't see another a-arm company pick it up and make it for our mountain sleds.
I emailed them and asked if they had anything for Polaris sleds or if I could buy the ball joint end from them to weld into mine. They came back with "No we have nothing for sleds, sorry"

I could make up something on my own but would not go with a round adjuster as that lifts and drops the ball joint too, I just want to go forward or backward.
 
Carefull with adjusting castor to much either way with stock spindles. The foot of the spindle is designed to be flat at what ever angle the factory set. Buy increasing it it angles the foot to much forward causing the front of the ski to push down and the opposite for the other way. You can really make it much worse with out even realizing what has happed.
 
Carefull with adjusting castor to much either way with stock spindles. The foot of the spindle is designed to be flat at what ever angle the factory set. Buy increasing it it angles the foot to much forward causing the front of the ski to push down and the opposite for the other way. You can really make it much worse with out even realizing what has happed.
Yes I considered this but it was not very noticeably when I moved the top of the spindle 5/8" forward. Ideally a new spindle design would be also needed but this is an R & D test to see how much can be gained. In theory having the rear suspension cranked up and the front soft and low could also tip the spindle foot down at the front. It has proved fairly forgiving though as many times your sled will hammer through a creek bed or other hole where you are esentially riding on the toes of the spindle foot and it is still okay. The ski dampeners might take more of a beating I expect.
 
Just get a ski like SLP that has a removable saddle. make your own ski saddle to accommodate for the new angle of the spindle

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I’ve used these control arms, they are a bit heavy for what your doing but the concept works well


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I find it interesting that I ride around poo and doo 850's and they say its me not the sled. Then people say cat needs to do something.
If you drop the skid and raise the boards 1". Then put in a doo style steering post it would be that much better. Then drop weight it would be great. As much as I would like a new chassis I also fear 2012 all over again.
The ascender chassis is basically what I started in 2012. then kept advancing. it took the years to get something right in 18. I don't want to see that chit again. The caster on the spindles is still not right. It could use a touch more steering. So how bad do we want a new chassis? Just look at the attempt to fix clutching?
Finally a primary that works but the secondary sucks. Id rather have a corrected old secondary. It had way more pull.
either way I'll still buy one most likely and chop it apart.
For now Ill keep improving my Solid sled and light weight sled. But I may keep them until new chassis proves something
 
There are things in the works for something to come out in 2023. I believe in the chassis department. Just dont know what yet.
 
Not everyone likes the look of skinz helium but one thing is for sure, they show you how much smaller the bodywork can be, and it works. Ascender plastics might already be tucked in more than other brands but who cares, the cat laydown motor has potential to be most trimmed body of any out front. Not sure why they keep making the nose so long and long dorky ski tips way out in front. It gets a little more rider forward like a doo when you pull everything back but it still has vertical steering if you want and sidehills well. the parts are availible to build the cat the way you like now, raised spindles is a must, change castor via upper arms if you want...cat could still use same bulkhead and just put a complete new suspension under it for their new sled imo. Get a little more exotic with the bodywork, all these new mountain sleds are still based on trail sled bodies. Reason many are ditching sleds for snow bikes. Need a lightweight e-start like a bike has too. just get rid of the recoil and rope, you can spin the clutch with the toolkit rope if you had to. happy new year!
 
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I'm looking forward to seeing what they wrap around the ADAPT drive clutch for 2023
 
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Just received the latest Snowtech magazine which includes their yearly Pure Speculation article.

They start the Arctic Cat section with "we can place good money on there being a larger than 800cc two-stroke from Arctic Cat." Later in the article they state, "we're hearing the mountain version of their new platform is not yet ready. What is more likely is for us to see the new, bigger than 800 engine in a new platform for trail and maybe crossover sleds, just not the mountain segment quite yet."

Will be interesting to see how correct their speculation is.

Kale
 
Get a little more exotic with the bodywork, all these new mountain sleds are still based on trail sled bodies. Reason many are ditching sleds for snow bikes. Need a lightweight e-start like a bike has too. just get rid of the recoil and rope, you can spin the clutch with the toolkit rope if you had to.
Who is ditching sleds for snow bikes due to bodywork lol.
Have you seen them out? They are wrapped out constantly to go ANYWHERE. I doubt theres a single bike out there that could climb what I did today in some softish yet-set snow.

The recoil and rope doesnt really weight anything.... nor take up hardly any space. About an inch or so on the motor end.

The lithium batteries are the lightweight systems, not really anything special on the bikes. The factory estart weight on polaris is half the battery.
 
^ Chickensticks, My best riding bud ditched sleds for bikes because they are just easier to ride in the terrain we like. Converted another buddy who was a long time sledder, a real ripper. We dont just ride straight up things. Im down on sled buds now. Try riding with a group of good 450+ bigger tracked bikes in tight tech terrain. I get you on the hillclimbs, thats why im still on a sled. Big Windshields hardly weigh anything, put some plastic around the whole steering column like a polaris edge, hardly weighs anything...
I dont need 3 ways to start a motor and 3 ways to turn it off myself. They shoud come with a damn lightweight battery was my point.
 
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