i can really see that pissing me off if i was a soldier, but to me it also seems to make our soldiers more mature in a way....mabye that wasnt the right word....more proffesional?
Obama's Plan To Disarm The Usa
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i can really see that pissing me off if i was a soldier, but to me it also seems to make our soldiers more mature in a way....mabye that wasnt the right word....more proffesional?
How about more "precise", or "certain"?
I guess it could be a hindrance, but I guess that is how you try and win a battle while winning a war.
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How about more dead? The Iraqis know that if there are insurgents near by they will be killed along with the bad guys. It's part of the incentive to turn the bad guys in. It works.
Did you know that many of the bombs that we drop now are cement filled? They are so accurate that they don't need to detonate to do there job, just the kinetic energy of a Mk82 500 lb hunk of steel and cement flattens the building and does little if no damage to surrounding buildings.
How about you get your azz over there and see how you handle it.
Don't forget your sling shot!
How about you get your azz over there and see how you handle it.
Was there a discussion point here, or is that just a random statement?
I couldn't find anything on Snopes about this NOT being a discussion point "get your azz over there and see how you handle it". Maybe my grammer is off a bit or maybe I need to explain my point of view to you a few more times again!
Probably best if someone isn't understanding what you are saying to try a different method/wordage rather than just repeating yourself. Just a thought. I am just trying to figure out how my ability to "handle it" has anything to do with my statement below.
now we're hitting clost to home. I was trained to fight and kill. I was not trained to win hearts and minds. The reason for dragging out the war is politics. It's all political. Democrats use it to belittle the republicans and point their fingers at the 'war mongers.'
ROE states that I cannot raise my weapon at ANYONE unless they are POINTING A WEAPON at me. Therefore I have less then a second to bring my weapon up, take it off safe and double tap center mass. On top of that you have higher division headquarters judge advocates doing all they can to prove soldiers wrong and defend the rights of the guy that 72 hours ago was trying to kill you. Let me tell you something, a guy can walk up to a fire team, pop off a couple shots and kill the team leader and drop his weapon. If he is shot and killed after he drops the weapon, the rifle that shot the fatal round will be taken and the soldier that rifle is assigned to is going to jail for the wrongful killing of a civilian.
There is no black and white anymore, it's all a gray area and if you don't have your chit straight you're screwed period.
Now back on topic advanced weaponry IS what wins wars. a robot that can accurately shoot a 7.62mm round at a combatant is priceless when it means taking one less soldier off the battlefield. I saw 'howitzer' was mentioned. I started out in a FA battalion as a fire direction control specialist (the brain and the trigger finger) GPS guided rounds are reality...a 98lb round guided by GPS. This is pretty much turned the cannon into a direct fire weapon. Take nukes out of the discussion we have a plethera of good **** that will rock the war....but we can't because war is big business.... and if you think that obama can actually bring the troops home you are sadly mistaken. not a chance in hell
ROE states that I cannot raise my weapon at ANYONE unless they are POINTING A WEAPON at me. Therefore I have less then a second to bring my weapon up, take it off safe and double tap center mass. On top of that you have higher division headquarters judge advocates doing all they can to prove soldiers wrong and defend the rights of the guy that 72 hours ago was trying to kill you. Let me tell you something, a guy can walk up to a fire team, pop off a couple shots and kill the team leader and drop his weapon. If he is shot and killed after he drops the weapon, the rifle that shot the fatal round will be taken and the soldier that rifle is assigned to is going to jail for the wrongful killing of a civilian.
There is no black and white anymore, it's all a gray area and if you don't have your chit straight you're screwed period.
Now back on topic advanced weaponry IS what wins wars. a robot that can accurately shoot a 7.62mm round at a combatant is priceless when it means taking one less soldier off the battlefield. I saw 'howitzer' was mentioned. I started out in a FA battalion as a fire direction control specialist (the brain and the trigger finger) GPS guided rounds are reality...a 98lb round guided by GPS. This is pretty much turned the cannon into a direct fire weapon. Take nukes out of the discussion we have a plethera of good **** that will rock the war....but we can't because war is big business.... and if you think that obama can actually bring the troops home you are sadly mistaken. not a chance in hell
What really scares me is for one side to have
lots of technology = no soldiers, when the other side has actually people fighting. Robots killing people is a road I wish we wouldn't go down, but I think the military is headed down there.
I knew we'd agree on something sooner or later
Yeah I didn't care too much for that last Terminator flick myself
Don't they already have drones that have missles on them? There are starting to create unmanned vehicles for transport of equipment with that whole Darpa thing.
I think we are closer from a technology standpoint that you guys think. Though I do agree that people will never be completely eliminated from the operation, but I think more of the battles will be fought with robots.
OK... once again I'll bite. Why does that scare you?
Yeah I didn't care too much for that last Terminator flick myself
Quite the comments you got. I am not worried about machines turning on the human race.
I am more worried that the ability and means to kill other people will become much easier... especially when there is only a dollar value attached to it and not a human cost. It scares me because the restraint for an armed conflict will be less as it only takes money instead of a large human cost.
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Quite the comments you got. I am not worried about machines turning on the human race.
So you'd rather see those who serve our country killed because they have a heart beat? It's not free to train our soldiers either so why do you question the dollar value of your freedom?
technology and the engineering capabilities on top of the training it would take to operate on a battlefied of which you speak of would be attained by only a handful of countries....no country in the middle east could ever compete at that level so im curious why you are scared of?
hell did you ever watch battle bots? the machines on that were lethal as hell! They did that and destroyed each other for fun....I know i wouldnt mess with a country that builit killer robots in their spare time
hell did you ever watch battle bots? the machines on that were lethal as hell! They did that and destroyed each other for fun....I know i wouldnt mess with a country that builit killer robots in their spare time
I would rather see no one killed. I don't think I am questioning the dollar value of freedom. The cost of a human soldier is much higher than the cost of some of those drones. Using drones dramatically reduces risk to one sides human casualties and therefore increases the opportunity to use this technology when a confrontation might not happen due to possible human risk.
I guess what I am trying to say is that with the ability of robots to be used in the battlefield, it seems to me that the value of life is reduced. I don't think I am explaining my point of view very good.
