Obama's birth cert. issue not going away
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I'm a little suspicious of the MySpace age thing though. That seems so obvious, it makes me wonder why it's coming up now.
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Ollie
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I wouldn't put any stock in it at all to be honest.
However, it is just one more piece.
You can only build a house of cards so tall before it all comes crashing down. I am just amazed that it has lasted this long. I figure if bo keeps attacking the press (those that arn't in his pocket) it will bring the house down faster.
However, it is just one more piece.
You can only build a house of cards so tall before it all comes crashing down. I am just amazed that it has lasted this long. I figure if bo keeps attacking the press (those that arn't in his pocket) it will bring the house down faster.
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Wolfrun
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I would bet that he needs another distraction from all his other indiscretions and the birther situation has died down a little bit. All these balancing jobs are going to catch up with him sooner or later. What a tool!!
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Trinity Taz
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obama kenyan birth certificate video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd...GE.view&pageId=107678&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd...GE.view&pageId=107678&feature=player_embedded
I'm trying not to get my hopes up anymore, but when I see that I do hope. The copy that Orly has looks pretty authentic and all the debunkers have themselves been debunked, so not sure where that's going.
This one Taz posted in the vid also looks a heck of a lot more authentic than the photoshopped form that's on BO's website that anyone can put together in 5 minutes on a home computer that all the libs say "proves" he was born in HI. Again, even if it was not photoshopped, a "Certification of Live Birth" just means you were born, it's not proof of where you were born and could be given to any foreign baby (per the HI statute I looked up posted prior). A "Certificate of Live Birth" is the real McCoy with the hospital and doctor information.
This is the guy who had the copy on Ebay and was trying to auction it off.
He has a criminal record. His reasoning was, "I don't mind breaking a few laws or policies here and there. I don't mind paying the military in foreign countries to look the other way ... The military [in Africa] will grant you access to anything for just a few dollars. People are starving. So yes, it takes a guy like me to get things done once in a while."
Things I noticed watching the vid several times. "Larry Big" is spray painted on the wall. ??
The BC# is 32018, which should match up to the copy Orly has. (Edit: Checked what inverted99 posted of the copy Orly found and can't find that # anywhere, but does that mean anything?)
We could see if James O.W. Ang-Awa matches up with being on staff in 1961.
Also, the WND article notes that other Kenyan BCs look different than what this guy came up with, but I wonder if that varies from Province to Province and/or if the one posted from a Kenyan is from Mombasa.
Bottom line is it keeps putting doubt in people's minds as to the crap BO posted as "proof." And we again wonder why he's fighting so hard to keep those records sealed.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107678
This one Taz posted in the vid also looks a heck of a lot more authentic than the photoshopped form that's on BO's website that anyone can put together in 5 minutes on a home computer that all the libs say "proves" he was born in HI. Again, even if it was not photoshopped, a "Certification of Live Birth" just means you were born, it's not proof of where you were born and could be given to any foreign baby (per the HI statute I looked up posted prior). A "Certificate of Live Birth" is the real McCoy with the hospital and doctor information.
This is the guy who had the copy on Ebay and was trying to auction it off.
He has a criminal record. His reasoning was, "I don't mind breaking a few laws or policies here and there. I don't mind paying the military in foreign countries to look the other way ... The military [in Africa] will grant you access to anything for just a few dollars. People are starving. So yes, it takes a guy like me to get things done once in a while."
Things I noticed watching the vid several times. "Larry Big" is spray painted on the wall. ??
The BC# is 32018, which should match up to the copy Orly has. (Edit: Checked what inverted99 posted of the copy Orly found and can't find that # anywhere, but does that mean anything?)
We could see if James O.W. Ang-Awa matches up with being on staff in 1961.
Also, the WND article notes that other Kenyan BCs look different than what this guy came up with, but I wonder if that varies from Province to Province and/or if the one posted from a Kenyan is from Mombasa.
Bottom line is it keeps putting doubt in people's minds as to the crap BO posted as "proof." And we again wonder why he's fighting so hard to keep those records sealed.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107678
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Well, keep up the good work BFluff, it's been highly educational for me to follow this. Something tells me that once it starts to fall apart for Obama, it will fall fast. Everyone will be asking how everyone missed all the signs for so long.
You have to be willing to always side with truth; over desire.
You have to be willing to always side with truth; over desire.
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Everything, all the points, all the problems, his associations, his friends, the accusations, all of it.
They are little points.
No single point is enough to do anything, but when it is all put together, it makes a picture.
That picture is still incomplete, when it is completed, the puzzle is exposed and the truth comes out.
Just like water gate, when the dam breaks, it will break fast, hard and destroy everything in it's path.
Thus the dems pushing to get their agenda thru, thus bo fighting tooth and nail to stop the release of ANY of his personal info, they are stalling.
They are little points.
No single point is enough to do anything, but when it is all put together, it makes a picture.
That picture is still incomplete, when it is completed, the puzzle is exposed and the truth comes out.
Just like water gate, when the dam breaks, it will break fast, hard and destroy everything in it's path.
Thus the dems pushing to get their agenda thru, thus bo fighting tooth and nail to stop the release of ANY of his personal info, they are stalling.
Feel free to go to http://www.politico.com/ and vote on the poll (bottom right) "Should Rep. Trent Franks go ahead with his plan to file a lawsuit to put Barack Obama on the spot about his birthplace?"
I spoke to Frank's office and he actually was misquoted and he isn't planning a lawsuit, but Politico tends to get a lot of Lefties if you read the comments in the comment sections. So it'd be fun to reflect people who have been following the actual facts of the cases instead of Lefties who want their Dear Leader to get away with whatever he wants.
I spoke to Frank's office and he actually was misquoted and he isn't planning a lawsuit, but Politico tends to get a lot of Lefties if you read the comments in the comment sections. So it'd be fun to reflect people who have been following the actual facts of the cases instead of Lefties who want their Dear Leader to get away with whatever he wants.
^^I'd say they get a lot of lefties... 59% say no in the poll
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Someone should just call Trent Franks and voice the snowmobiling community's overwhelming support of the investigative lawsuit.
What's his phone number?
What's his phone number?
It looks like BO's maternal grandparents rented the house that was in the birth announcement in the HI paper.
"Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.
Very likely, the neighbor, Beatrice Arakaki, did not recall the Obama family because the primary residents were the grandparents, the Dunhams.
At most, Ann Dunham Obama and her son lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway only a few days, and there is no evidence Barack Obama Sr. ever lived there, despite the address having been listed in the Honolulu newspapers as the residence of the parents"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337
So we're still left with the fact that we're supposed to take it on some HI employee's word that she's seen the BC.
The Kerchner case (by Mario Apuzzo) is till predicated on the fact that it does not matter where BO was born because his dad was a British citizen.
He has such a solid case based on the FF's intent and precedent, that Judge Schneider has said there is merit to the case. The judge has still delayed BO's motion to dismiss, however. It was supposed to have been answered by the judge before August 17.
We still have multiple time lines and documents that don't add up and have been altered and tampered with.
But bottom line is we all want to know what he's fighting so hard to hide.
"Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.
Very likely, the neighbor, Beatrice Arakaki, did not recall the Obama family because the primary residents were the grandparents, the Dunhams.
At most, Ann Dunham Obama and her son lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway only a few days, and there is no evidence Barack Obama Sr. ever lived there, despite the address having been listed in the Honolulu newspapers as the residence of the parents"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337
So we're still left with the fact that we're supposed to take it on some HI employee's word that she's seen the BC.
The Kerchner case (by Mario Apuzzo) is till predicated on the fact that it does not matter where BO was born because his dad was a British citizen.
He has such a solid case based on the FF's intent and precedent, that Judge Schneider has said there is merit to the case. The judge has still delayed BO's motion to dismiss, however. It was supposed to have been answered by the judge before August 17.
We still have multiple time lines and documents that don't add up and have been altered and tampered with.
But bottom line is we all want to know what he's fighting so hard to hide.
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Judge hasn't been offered enough money by BO to dismiss it. It'll come. He'll dismiss it.
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Wolfrun
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Given that during the 6 months prior to Bo's birth there is no knowledge of Ann Dunhams whereabouts, really the sky is the limit as to where he was born. The fact that the birthers are so denigrated and demonized tells you how important the subject really is. Keep up the good work, Blue.
Wow, I haven't paid much attention to Leo Donofrio's stuff, but it sounds like it might be dovetailing into Mario's, as his issue is also NBC status having to do with parental citizenship. Interesting that Obama's admission to being born with British citizenship in lieu of his father's has now been scrubbed.
There are images of the relevant Obama websites that show up in the link. This guy has a sense of humor too
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THE RELEVANT OBAMA ADMISSION
Posted in Uncategorized on July 29, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
With all the new media attention swirling around the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, I thought it might be helpful to re-release an important blog post I created back when my law suit was pending before SCOTUS. I’ve done this for two reasons.
1. The image that contains Obama’s admission of his birth status having been governed by Great Britain is being scrubbed from the web. It was highlighted originally at Obama’s own Fight The Smears website which has now vanished. The relevant admission appeared just below the Certification of Live Birth which he used to declare he was born in the US.
2. The admission by Obama that his birth status was governed by Great Britian is the one fact which the main stream media has NEVER acknowledged. In all of the coverage on the web and on radio and TV nobody will talk about it. Instead of discussing this admission openly, they mock the entire movement. It’s the new Soviet form of sarcasm. They’ve found a new way to censor people, just act like a bunch of bullies in a sandbox and pretend you are in kindergarden. Kick sand in the face of those who won’t do your bidding and threaten anybody else with sand in their face if they don’t laugh along.
Thank God for punk rock. That music liberated me from all fear. When The Sex Pistols back in 1976 put it to the Queen they got the snot kicked out of them everywhere they went. But they started a revolution, a revolution along with The Ramones and The Clash and the world was changed. They certainly liberated me and taught me to question authority.
I brought my law suit against the NJ Secretary of State to rid the ballots of McCain, Obama and Calero. Yet, I have been called a racist more times than I can count. Furthermore, I have never said that the definition of natural-born citizen has been certainly determined in the courts. I simply pointed out various historical cases and comments which support the definition I believe is most on point – that to be President one must be born in the US to parents without foreign allegiance who are US citizens.
It’s hardly a fringe concept to expect and demand that the Commander in Chief was never a citizen of another nation.
It was Obama who originally said his birth status was governed by Great Britain, not me. He said it. He proved it. Now it’s like the emperor’s new clothes. Nobody in the main stream media has the guts to discuss it openly.
I originally posted the following on December 5, 2008 – the date SCOTUS discussed my case in private conference.
THE RELEVANT OBAMA ADMISSION
At Barack Obama’s web site, the following admission:
“FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “
Read that last line again.
“That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”
That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. He has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.
And this leads to the relevant question:
HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?
A natural born citizen’s status should only be governed by the United States. This is the core issue before the Supreme Court of the United States.
[Ed. Notice the link to Fight the Smears is now broken.]
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
There are images of the relevant Obama websites that show up in the link. This guy has a sense of humor too
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THE RELEVANT OBAMA ADMISSION
Posted in Uncategorized on July 29, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
With all the new media attention swirling around the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, I thought it might be helpful to re-release an important blog post I created back when my law suit was pending before SCOTUS. I’ve done this for two reasons.
1. The image that contains Obama’s admission of his birth status having been governed by Great Britain is being scrubbed from the web. It was highlighted originally at Obama’s own Fight The Smears website which has now vanished. The relevant admission appeared just below the Certification of Live Birth which he used to declare he was born in the US.
2. The admission by Obama that his birth status was governed by Great Britian is the one fact which the main stream media has NEVER acknowledged. In all of the coverage on the web and on radio and TV nobody will talk about it. Instead of discussing this admission openly, they mock the entire movement. It’s the new Soviet form of sarcasm. They’ve found a new way to censor people, just act like a bunch of bullies in a sandbox and pretend you are in kindergarden. Kick sand in the face of those who won’t do your bidding and threaten anybody else with sand in their face if they don’t laugh along.
Thank God for punk rock. That music liberated me from all fear. When The Sex Pistols back in 1976 put it to the Queen they got the snot kicked out of them everywhere they went. But they started a revolution, a revolution along with The Ramones and The Clash and the world was changed. They certainly liberated me and taught me to question authority.
I brought my law suit against the NJ Secretary of State to rid the ballots of McCain, Obama and Calero. Yet, I have been called a racist more times than I can count. Furthermore, I have never said that the definition of natural-born citizen has been certainly determined in the courts. I simply pointed out various historical cases and comments which support the definition I believe is most on point – that to be President one must be born in the US to parents without foreign allegiance who are US citizens.
It’s hardly a fringe concept to expect and demand that the Commander in Chief was never a citizen of another nation.
It was Obama who originally said his birth status was governed by Great Britain, not me. He said it. He proved it. Now it’s like the emperor’s new clothes. Nobody in the main stream media has the guts to discuss it openly.
I originally posted the following on December 5, 2008 – the date SCOTUS discussed my case in private conference.
THE RELEVANT OBAMA ADMISSION
At Barack Obama’s web site, the following admission:
“FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “
Read that last line again.
“That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”
That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. He has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.
And this leads to the relevant question:
HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?
A natural born citizen’s status should only be governed by the United States. This is the core issue before the Supreme Court of the United States.
[Ed. Notice the link to Fight the Smears is now broken.]
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
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That has been my point since day one.
It is not and never has been (to me anyway) a question of whether bo was born in Hawaii or not, it was the status of his father.
Both parents much be US citizens in order for bo to be a NBC.
His father (by his own admission) was a brit.
It is not and never has been (to me anyway) a question of whether bo was born in Hawaii or not, it was the status of his father.
Both parents much be US citizens in order for bo to be a NBC.
His father (by his own admission) was a brit.
Me too. That's why it's so funny the name-calling from the Left AND the Right. "Birthers" isn't an accurate term (any more than teabaggers or racists for those issues).
I just wanna know what he's hiding and want someone to seriously look into it instead of dismissing it and trusting someone else's (agenda-d) word for it. I don't want to simply hear a judge say he's an NBC or not an NBC, I want a judge to say "release your records" or that they have to be released for discovery.
But that brings up another issue. Since it's already known that his dad was a British subject, would he have to release the sealed info??
I find it hilarious (NOT) that they're releasing the CIA info but not his BC.
I just wanna know what he's hiding and want someone to seriously look into it instead of dismissing it and trusting someone else's (agenda-d) word for it. I don't want to simply hear a judge say he's an NBC or not an NBC, I want a judge to say "release your records" or that they have to be released for discovery.
But that brings up another issue. Since it's already known that his dad was a British subject, would he have to release the sealed info??
I find it hilarious (NOT) that they're releasing the CIA info but not his BC.
Bummer, that eBay guy who tried to sell the "Kenyan" BC on eBay (who has a criminal past) and also had the video of the Kenyan BC, that paper has been proven false. Still no word on the copy Orly came up with that I know of.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108005
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108005
Missed this in the article before.
" Moreover, WND sources reported it is unlikely any 1961 birth certificate for President Obama will ever be found at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, even if one originally existed.
Administrators and doctors at the hospital told WND sources that in 2004 a high-level team of Kenya's National Security Intelligence Service came to the hospital and seized all files containing birth certificate documents from the years 1960 through 1963.
According to the hospital administrators and doctors interviewed at the hospital, it was not until four months later that Kenya's National Security Intelligence Service returned the seized files to the hospital."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108005
Someone pointed this out - "What happened in 2004? Barack Obama gave the keynote speech at the Democrat's National Convention and became a "rising star" in the Democrat party."
" Moreover, WND sources reported it is unlikely any 1961 birth certificate for President Obama will ever be found at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, even if one originally existed.
Administrators and doctors at the hospital told WND sources that in 2004 a high-level team of Kenya's National Security Intelligence Service came to the hospital and seized all files containing birth certificate documents from the years 1960 through 1963.
According to the hospital administrators and doctors interviewed at the hospital, it was not until four months later that Kenya's National Security Intelligence Service returned the seized files to the hospital."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108005
Someone pointed this out - "What happened in 2004? Barack Obama gave the keynote speech at the Democrat's National Convention and became a "rising star" in the Democrat party."
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