Obama's birth cert. issue not going away

[Wade]

Geeze Ruffy, who pissed in your cherrios?

 

[ruffryder]

Really??
I don't remember seeing anything like that when bo's brown shirts invaded the conservative meetings and shut them down.
I don't think any of the people at the anti-obamacare meetings openly attacking any politicians (inlike the pie throwing clowns).
I don't remember hearing about the republicans calling the anti-war protesters anti-american pro-terrorists (unlike Palosi who calls the anti-obamacare people unamerican and fringe nut cases or the dems calling anyone who is against amnesty for 20 million criminals racists and such).
I don't remember seeing anything about conservatives threatening people to vote they way they want, but don't worry, bo called off the prosecution of the thugs that helped get him elected.

Lets see some evidence of republicans demonizing americans the way the ruling communist are now.
Show me where Bush EVER called out thugs to attack those that disagreed with him? He only put illegal wire taps on em..
Show me where Bush ever called on the public to assist with putting together an enemies list.

How did this get to Bush? and why are you bringing him into it?

I thought we were talking about people and there methods of arguments? What tangent are you trying to take me on?

 

[ruffryder]

Don't even try to tell me that of all the people that voted for bo, that every single one of them voted for him and for no other reason than they thought he was god.

I am not, but you make it sound like they only voted for Obama because they didn't want McCain to win... I would say more people voted for McCain as a vote against Obama then people that voted for Obama as a vote against McCain.

 

[Wade]

I am not, but you make it sound like they only voted for Obama because they didn't want McCain to win... I would say more people voted for McCain as a vote against Obama then people that voted for Obama as a vote against McCain.

Now that's BS. McCain was labeled as 4 more years of Bush. You remember that. A vote for Obama, as a vote against Bush. Not the other way around, unless you were a vet, or just prejudice.

Now, by the time the media got finished with Palin, a vote for Obama might have been a vote against Palin. Hard to argue the successful method of the attack applied against Palin.

 

[Yamahamod]

According to this guy all you "birthers" are just racists.....

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/...l?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU


Can't believe i still subscribe to this paper...although it was just an article in the opinion section.

He must have taken one of those adds up on Craigslist to work and protest for Nobama.
F that guy. STUPID

 

[Ollie]

How did this get to Bush? and why are you bringing him into it?

I thought we were talking about people and there methods of arguments? What tangent are you trying to take me on?

You had said that the republicans did the exact same things.
So I pointed out that you were wrong.
Bush was just a good and recent example.

 

[hottank]

B. O. is the first pres. Elec. not born in the USA. We are flushing our Constitution down the drain. Why are we supporting someone wrong? Who really believes in our Constitution? And why are we letting this happen to our country? Anyone that argues with we, move to North Korea.

 

[Snow Flake]

B. O. is the first pres. Elec. not born in the USA. We are flushing our Constitution down the drain. Why are we supporting someone wrong? Who really believes in our Constitution? And why are we letting this happen to our country? Anyone that argues with we, move to North Korea.

Good job guys. There are now enough fear and hate for our president threads on this forum that it can be held up as a poster child for the right wing lunatic fringe. Anyone trying to read any of these threads can't tell if you are arguing against each other or against the few that call BS on you.

There is enough misinformation in this thread alone for the people that oppose motorized use of our forests to have proof that 90 percent of people that ride snowmobiles are crazy.

You have ruined a great forum. Continue with your graveyard spiral of self destruction. Mission accomplished.

 

[Wolfrun]

Today's findings:

For Wolfy!! This is included in the Kerchner law suit:

"The Constitution and de Vattel’s Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries:

EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

EXCERPT 2: de Vattel’s Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212:

The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.

Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together:

EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8:

The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations

Yes, Law of Nations is capitalized, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time."

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AND

More proof of the lies. Document photos proving Obama never lived in the home listed as his address at the time of his birth in the birth announcement and photos of documents showing his mother was attending school in Washington when Obama says in his book something entirely different.

As documented in an earlier post, his mother too was known to be a liar. Friends said they couldn't ever believe anything she said. The acorn doesn't fall...

Almost everything this man says is a lie, so we're supposed to believe he's hiding his BC and docs for a good reason? (I know, I know -- define "good")

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"This now-documented account of President Obama's birth timeline differs dramatically from the narrative the president told in his autobiography "Dreams From My Father."

In that book, President Obama claimed his mother remained with him in Hawaii until 1962 when supposedly Barack Obama Sr. made the decision to abandon Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii because Harvard did not provide sufficient funds for him to take his family with him to Cambridge, Mass., to begin his studies at Harvard in September 1962.

Ann Dunham's transcript from the University of Washington in Seattle shows she continued to take classes there through the spring term 1962, which suggests that Ann Dunham not only abandoned Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii, but also that she remained in Seattle to continue her studies there well into 1962..."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106258

Thanks again Blue, It calms my mind. As I get older I can't always remember how I found something that I do remember reading a month or so ago, also I am a speed reader so now I no doubt miss some things. Thanks again, Wolf

 

[woodzy]

Good job guys. There are now enough fear and hate for our president threads on this forum that it can be held up as a poster child for the right wing lunatic fringe. Anyone trying to read any of these threads can't tell if you are arguing against each other or against the few that call BS on you.

There is enough misinformation in this thread alone for the people that oppose motorized use of our forests to have proof that 90 percent of people that ride snowmobiles are crazy.

You have ruined a great forum. Continue with your graveyard spiral of self destruction. Mission accomplished.

Thanks for playing. Goodbye. and good riddance.

 

[Snow Flake]

Thanks for playing. Goodbye. and good riddance.

I'm not going anywhere. No free pass for BSers.

 

[woodzy]

I'm not going anywhere. No free pass for BSers.

and the rain comes down on the great parade..

 

[MPS]

Good job guys. There are now enough fear and hate for our president threads on this forum that it can be held up as a poster child for the right wing lunatic fringe. Anyone trying to read any of these threads can't tell if you are arguing against each other or against the few that call BS on you.

There is enough misinformation in this thread alone for the people that oppose motorized use of our forests to have proof that 90 percent of people that ride snowmobiles are crazy.

You have ruined a great forum. Continue with your graveyard spiral of self destruction. Mission accomplished.

We have ruined a great forum...haha....ok veteran of 300 posts. Do you think we are going to take stock in you calling us right wing lunatics?....haha....that would be like me believing Pelosi when she said we are un-American. No it is her and Obama that are un-American because they are trying to shut us up and push their agenda. How is that American? "Graveyard spiral?" OMG! hahahaha....you want to interpret that wise one? We better comply with his majesty huh!? How dare we voice our concerns and opinions. How dare we show up at town hall meetings or hold tea parties to voice how pissed off we are! Oh wait and then the SEIU union thugs show up and beat protesters and the administration says nothing!!!! To me that is as good as saying they support it!! Obama has said it himself that we need to shut up and let them do their thing! WTF is that! Does he think we are a communist nation? Does he think he is king!?

I could give a rat's a$$ if there is misinformation in this thread....we are entitled to our opinion! If you don't like it go somewhere else! Don't listen to the protesters! We aren't gonna lay over like a bunch of p*ssies because libbies like you want to control every aspect of our lives! Got it?


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[Ollie]

We have ruined a great forum...haha....ok veteran of 300 posts. Do you think we are going to take stock in you calling us right wing lunatics?....haha....that would be like me believing Pelosi when she said we are un-American. No it is her and Obama that are un-American because they are trying to shut us up and push their agenda. How is that American? "Graveyard spiral?" OMG! hahahaha....you want to interpret that wise one? We better comply with his majesty huh!? How dare we voice our concerns and opinions. How dare we show up at town hall meetings or hold tea parties to voice how pissed off we are! Oh wait and then the SEIU union thugs show up and beat protesters and the administration says nothing!!!! To me that is as good as saying they support it!! Obama has said it himself that we need to shut up and let them do their thing! WTF is that! Does he think we are a communist nation? Does he think he is king!?

I could give a rat's a$$ if there is misinformation in this thread....we are entitled to our opinion! If you don't like it go somewhere else! Don't listen to the protesters! We aren't gonna lay over like a bunch of p*ssies because libbies like you want to control every aspect of our lives! Got it?


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I wouldn't even bother replying to that tard anymore.
I think "it" must be 12 (or a liberal arts college student).
Flaky has no clue what a debate is or how to go about it.
We have lots of debates and welcome anyone with constructive input (even if we don't agree with Ruffy).
The libs just arn't used to people disagreeing with them. That's why this type of thread is so foreign to it. There are both sides of the arguement represented and we debate the merrits. So I am sure "it" is confused and scared by people that think other than the way "it" wants.
All "it" does is the same bs that all libs do. Blame, deflect and name call.
Not worth the effort.

 

[Wolfrun]

Ollie, I am encouraged in the fact that at least more than a few people are starting to stand up for themselves. We are going to have more than a few fights and battles before this is over and we get Bo out of office but it will be more than worth it.

 

[ruffryder]

I could give a rat's a$$ if there is misinformation in this thread....we are entitled to our opinion! .

wtf? Are you serious? You don't have a problem with spreading lies and false hoods?

This is what is wrong with America these days.... I am disappointed!

 

[ruffryder]

That's why this type of thread is so foreign to it. There are both sides of the arguement represented and we debate the merrits. .

Reductionist thinking?... us vs. them... one side vs. the other... The only time there are only two sides to a subject is in school and on tv. The world is so much more complicated. Good on you with divisive thinking..

Yet another large problem with America... We will not be undone by political issues, military issues, religious issues, or anything else.

What will be our undoing is our loss of respect for our neighbors and each other. We will tear ourselves apart, not because of an outside threat, but because we perceive parts of ourselves as the threat.

 

[ruffryder]

Now that's BS. McCain was labeled as 4 more years of Bush. You remember that. A vote for Obama, as a vote against Bush. Not the other way around, unless you were a vet, or just prejudice.

I did not say that it wasn't a factor. Just seem a larger majority of democrats actually wanted Obama as a president, compared to republicans with McCain. What was the Rush comment?

We will drag this Yosemite Sam across the finish line and deal with him later

or something like that.

That comment was a main reason why I stopped considering McCain as a valuable choice. If even his own party members didn't respect him as a leader, what hopes does he have being a leader of the country.. wow, sorry about the tangent.

Anyways, both sides did it, but from people on here, and people I talk to, it seems republicans used that thought process more..

 

[MPS]

wtf? Are you serious? You don't have a problem with spreading lies and false hoods?

This is what is wrong with america these days.... I am disappointed!

I have a problem with the infringments on the freedom of speech! Got it!? Do i need to write it in crayon for you!?

The problem with America is the left is trying to cram stuff down our throats and trying to control everything they can! People like you that put us on the fast track to socialism/communism are the problem!

BTW, falsehoods is one word.


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[MPS]

I wouldn't even bother replying to that tard anymore.
I think "it" must be 12 (or a liberal arts college student).
Flaky has no clue what a debate is or how to go about it.
We have lots of debates and welcome anyone with constructive input (even if we don't agree with Ruffy).
The libs just arn't used to people disagreeing with them. That's why this type of thread is so foreign to it. There are both sides of the arguement represented and we debate the merrits. So I am sure "it" is confused and scared by people that think other than the way "it" wants.
All "it" does is the same bs that all libs do. Blame, deflect and name call.
Not worth the effort.

Ya I said that earlier and I didn't want to reply to blatant stupidity. I shouldn't have given him the gratification of responding. I'm completely done with all liberals....I don't have the patience anymore....like I ever had much! They are getting themselves onto a whole new playing field right now. They don't realize what kind of hornets nest they are stirring up. Ruffy is just "polite" in his condescension, so people let it fly. He isn't blatantly rude....just coy and smug about it. Lets hear your rebuttal Ruffy....I can almost see it....it is always the same.


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