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Obama's birth cert. issue not going away
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Isn't it nice of Al Gore to invent the Internet, that's used to pass information around that the Media won't tell you. I mean look at the media. The media is reporting on stories that are happening on the Internet. What ever happened to the Media reporting the stories, and everyone talking about the Media's story, on the Internet. Sell your stock on Media outlets, they are setting themselves up for being "the last to know".
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Ollie
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I don't think they voted so much for the obamanation as they voted against their other option.
McCain and the republican party.
Bush and the republicans totally screwed up the first 2 years of the war in Iraq. They pretty much miscalculated everything they possibly could. They passed new laws restricting peoples rights, they ran up huge deficits and then the economy crashed on Bush's watch.
The media and the dems did a great job of showing that McCain would just be 4 more years of Bush.
Enter the obamanation. Extremely well spoken, very carasmatic and said all the right things. He portrayed himself as a centrist that could bring the 2 sides together. He used all the proper buzz words (health care reform, climate change, sticking it to the rich, etc), now he used the buzz words without actually saying how he was going to do any of it. Then there is the race card. just as there were those that voted against him just because of the color of his skin, there were even more that voted for him just because of the color of his skin. Those that wanted to show they weren't racist and those that were racist and just wanted a black man in the white house. There were a lot of illigal or at least VERY unethical things he did to get there, but he got there.
Now a lot of those people that voted for him, are questioning their decision and regretting it.
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mngoat
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According to this guy all you "birthers" are just racists.....
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/...l?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
Can't believe i still subscribe to this paper...although it was just an article in the opinion section.
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/...l?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
Can't believe i still subscribe to this paper...although it was just an article in the opinion section.
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Ollie
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Standard liberal tactic.
demonize, label, segregate and eliminate.
They do this with ever major issue.
Illigal Immigration
Stimulus Bill
Health care
bo papers
the list could go on and on.
Ya know I was going to come on here and "debate" with this person....I'm not going to waste my time. At least Ruffy can articulate his points. I don't what the hell this stuff is.
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You know... I find it interesting all these people on here criticizing Snow Flake for his methods and etiquette of communicating, yet these same people are guilty of doing the same thing over and over again too... Hmmm... What a shocker...
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Isn't that why most on here voted for McCain? Seems to me most thought Obama would be a good president, and voted based on that belief. McCain voters on the other hand, only voted against Obama..
Funny, you have stated many many times how the media is in love with Obama and so are his followers, and yet here you state most people voted for Obama as a means of against the McCain side?
I could uses a little consistency in your arguments..
Oh, and I am ready for you to justify your consistency now. At least that is consistent.
So do republicans, so do capitalists, so does... well everyone does it.
You telling me that republicans don't throw around labels? Jeez... just look at all the labels that get thrown around here... Look at the demonizing that gets thrown around here...
It is a republican tactic in having other republicans believe that liberals are the only ones that do it......
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What you dont understand, Ruffy, is that ALL MEN are fallible, the laws of this country are in place to hold us ALL accountable by the same moral standards.
When the system no longer works, we have the mess we are in today. There are no clear lines to follow because our Constitution has been so polluted by corrupt lawyers and judges through judicial precedence that there is no teeth in it anymore.
Plain and simple, the system isn't working as it should when a man such as Obama is "qualified" for the office of president of this late, great country.
Go ahead and argue the facts, its your right...that is IF you still have it!
When the system no longer works, we have the mess we are in today. There are no clear lines to follow because our Constitution has been so polluted by corrupt lawyers and judges through judicial precedence that there is no teeth in it anymore.
Plain and simple, the system isn't working as it should when a man such as Obama is "qualified" for the office of president of this late, great country.
Go ahead and argue the facts, its your right...that is IF you still have it!
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MPS
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ahhhh that hurts and I was trying to pay you a compliment so we could be friends....hahahahaha.....wait you already have a lightsaber friend....forgot...my bad
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I did that too, but he keeps popping up when he's quoted in rational people's posts!
Then there are pages and pages of useless back and forth that don't accomplish much and then a lot of the useful information is buried.
Ahhhh, maybe that is SF's diabolical plan
And/or he's hoping that the Rules for Radicals tactics work and the thread gets shut down!
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Today's findings:
For Wolfy!! This is included in the Kerchner law suit:
"The Constitution and de Vattel’s Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries:
EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
EXCERPT 2: de Vattel’s Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212:
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.
Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together:
EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8:
The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations
Yes, Law of Nations is capitalized, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time."
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More proof of the lies. Document photos proving Obama never lived in the home listed as his address at the time of his birth in the birth announcement and photos of documents showing his mother was attending school in Washington when Obama says in his book something entirely different.
As documented in an earlier post, his mother too was known to be a liar. Friends said they couldn't ever believe anything she said. The acorn doesn't fall...
Almost everything this man says is a lie, so we're supposed to believe he's hiding his BC and docs for a good reason? (I know, I know -- define "good")
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"This now-documented account of President Obama's birth timeline differs dramatically from the narrative the president told in his autobiography "Dreams From My Father."
In that book, President Obama claimed his mother remained with him in Hawaii until 1962 when supposedly Barack Obama Sr. made the decision to abandon Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii because Harvard did not provide sufficient funds for him to take his family with him to Cambridge, Mass., to begin his studies at Harvard in September 1962.
Ann Dunham's transcript from the University of Washington in Seattle shows she continued to take classes there through the spring term 1962, which suggests that Ann Dunham not only abandoned Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii, but also that she remained in Seattle to continue her studies there well into 1962..."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106258
For Wolfy!! This is included in the Kerchner law suit:
"The Constitution and de Vattel’s Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries:
EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
EXCERPT 2: de Vattel’s Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212:
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.
Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together:
EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8:
The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations
Yes, Law of Nations is capitalized, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time."
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More proof of the lies. Document photos proving Obama never lived in the home listed as his address at the time of his birth in the birth announcement and photos of documents showing his mother was attending school in Washington when Obama says in his book something entirely different.
As documented in an earlier post, his mother too was known to be a liar. Friends said they couldn't ever believe anything she said. The acorn doesn't fall...
Almost everything this man says is a lie, so we're supposed to believe he's hiding his BC and docs for a good reason? (I know, I know -- define "good")
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"This now-documented account of President Obama's birth timeline differs dramatically from the narrative the president told in his autobiography "Dreams From My Father."
In that book, President Obama claimed his mother remained with him in Hawaii until 1962 when supposedly Barack Obama Sr. made the decision to abandon Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii because Harvard did not provide sufficient funds for him to take his family with him to Cambridge, Mass., to begin his studies at Harvard in September 1962.
Ann Dunham's transcript from the University of Washington in Seattle shows she continued to take classes there through the spring term 1962, which suggests that Ann Dunham not only abandoned Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii, but also that she remained in Seattle to continue her studies there well into 1962..."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106258
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This is crazy.Anyone of my neighbours I can tell you where they lived and where they were born.It seems like this Obama guys past is as shady as it comes.I mean ask my mom she knows who else was in the hospital having a kid when I was born.Somebody must be out there that can verify when and where Obama was born be it in Kenya or USA or some other country.But for this story to have so many missing pages I cant believe this guy is now a president.
I did that too, but he keeps popping up when he's quoted in rational people's posts!
Then there are pages and pages of useless back and forth that doesn't accomplish much and then a lot of the useful information is buried.
Ahhhh, maybe that is SF's diabolical plan
you are exactly right!
oh come ruffy that is bs! so you are saying ALL of us conduct ourselves as snow flake? hyperbole much!
there are SOME that take up less than desirable tactics but MOST debate cordially... for the most part.
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MPS
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correct, I should have used "some"... or "most"...
boo hoo, that is all I have to say....keep whining. BTW I said nothing about how he presented things, he has no substance. He needs to take a class from the spin doctor....YOU! hahaha ....go play lightsabers with your friend.
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Really??
I don't remember seeing anything like that when bo's brown shirts invaded the conservative meetings and shut them down.
I don't think any of the people at the anti-obamacare meetings openly attacking any politicians (inlike the pie throwing clowns).
I don't remember hearing about the republicans calling the anti-war protesters anti-american pro-terrorists (unlike Palosi who calls the anti-obamacare people unamerican and fringe nut cases or the dems calling anyone who is against amnesty for 20 million criminals racists and such).
I don't remember seeing anything about conservatives threatening people to vote they way they want, but don't worry, bo called off the prosecution of the thugs that helped get him elected.
Lets see some evidence of republicans demonizing americans the way the ruling communist are now.
Show me where Bush EVER called out thugs to attack those that disagreed with him? He only put illegal wire taps on em
..Show me where Bush ever called on the public to assist with putting together an enemies list.
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Ollie
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Isn't that why most on here voted for McCain? Seems to me most thought Obama would be a good president, and voted based on that belief. McCain voters on the other hand, only voted against Obama..
Funny, you have stated many many times how the media is in love with Obama and so are his followers, and yet here you state most people voted for Obama as a means of against the McCain side?
I could uses a little consistency in your arguments..
Oh, and I am ready for you to justify your consistency now. At least that is consistent.
The media isn't just in love with bo, they fight over who gets to give him his morning BJ. It is really disgusting when you have "news" orgs like MSNBC who compares bo to a god.
Of cource there are those that voted for him because they believed his line of BS. However, remember he only got 52% of the vote, to listen to the dems and bo, he got 100% of the vote.
There are a LOT of people that voted for him that are now pizzed off big time because they have found out he LIED to them.
Don't even try to tell me that of all the people that voted for bo, that every single one of them voted for him and for no other reason than they thought he was god.
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