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Obama's birth cert. issue not going away

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Dam wolf that isn't the US constitution if you read that in it. Again, Born in the USA.

You will have to read a lot farther than that to discover the original and successive meaning of Natural born. I am not saying he is not a citizen, I am saying it will take him some pretty fancy constitutional lawering and probably years in court to make himself into a natural born citizen. I will check tomorrow.
 
Did you guys feel that huge jolt yesterday? When the crazy Russian lawyer lady admitted the kenya birth certificate was a hoax the world quit turning. Chit, trees snapped of and all kids of crap.

What country was our president born in today?

Got Birther control?

No, I haven't read that. You got a link?

So, your complaining that Taitz asked the government to confirm a document, they refused, and she did the research herself, and found it to false? That doesn't sound crazy, that sounds responsible. If it where the White House, there would be memos circulating about "spinning the news". Good for her, looking into it, and admitting the truth. That's what we all want.

Now, we can get back to asking for Obama's long form BC.
 
I really have no doubt that bo is or can be made to look like he was born on american soil. The question is, what about his dad??
It takes BOTH parents to be a NBC.
 
You will have to read a lot farther than that to discover the original and successive meaning of Natural born. I am not saying he is not a citizen, I am saying it will take him some pretty fancy constitutional lawering and probably years in court to make himself into a natural born citizen. I will check tomorrow.

Born in the USA Wolf. Thats it. Very clear. Very Simple. Very easy to find and understand. No cluster Fox news interpretation needed. Those birthers are blowing smoke. Think for yourself man.
 
Yep boys, the most powerful politician on Earth, can't get a copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate, because the Hawaii Dept of Health Website, doesn't have that option. Guess we'll never know. Foiled by bureaucracy again.
 
Yep boys, the most powerful politician on Earth, can't get a copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate, because the Hawaii Dept of Health Website, doesn't have that option. Guess we'll never know. Foiled by bureaucracy again.

Jesus Christ on a crutch Wade. Give up the we'll never know argument. With all the research done on our president's background there is not one shred of evidence he is not a natural born citizen, or that there is any reason to fear and hate him. The evidence to the contrary has been provided and you refuse to accept that our president is one of us.
 
Jesus Christ on a crutch Wade. Give up the we'll never know argument. With all the research done on our president's background there is not one shred of evidence he is not a natural born citizen, or that there is any reason to fear and hate him. The evidence to the contrary has been provided and you refuse to accept that our president is one of us.

Nice to see you agree with my facts. By the way, that wasn't me that was a reporter's argument. That and it's all white southerner's fault. He didn't mention snowesters.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6788515.ece?openComment=true

This is the kind of journalism that started the last civil war.
 
Nice to see you agree with my facts. By the way, that wasn't me that was a reporter's argument. That and it's all white southerner's fault. He didn't mention snowesters.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6788515.ece?openComment=true

This is the kind of journalism that started the last civil war.

Journalism started the Civil War??? I think it was hate of people that were "Not like us" and fear that if those people were given rights the economic system would collapse.
 
Journalism started the Civil War??? I think it was hate of people that were "Not like us" and fear that if those people were given rights the economic system would collapse.

Unfair Taxation and belittling of southerners started the war. There where strong differences between the north and south.

Heck, Lincoln didn't even free the slaves in the North, only the south. That was just an excuse to force the south into submission.

Either that, or it was because Lincoln couldn't get a long form birth certificate from Kentucky.
 
Yo're fishing again, and using stink bait.

Nice cop out.

I hated Bush because he spent like a liberal.

I hate Obama because he spends like a liberal.

I hated Bush for his detriment to foreign policy.

I hate Obama because of his detriment to Foreign policy.

I hated Bush for paying off his Buddy's and big dirty oil.

I hate Obama for paying off his Buddy's with cap and trade and stimulus pork.

It's not hard and ALL founded reasons for me to hate them both in my mind, I just hate Obama a whole lot more for a lot more reasons including hiding his past.

It's really not even a debate, you can't say it's normal to hide all of your past (not just the birth certificate) and get away with it, love him or hate him. I fricken hate him for damn good reasons!
 
Ericbigbore said:
It's really not even a debate, you can't say it's normal to hide all of your past (not just the birth certificate) and get away with it, love him or hate him. I fricken hate him for damn good reasons!

You're believing a lot of BS then. Hows all that hate working for you?
 
Ericbigbore said:


You're believing a lot of BS then. Hows all that hate working for you?


Right on Eric, 100% agree. Hate Bush, hate Obama a lot more. Hate 90% of congress; just as much. You forgot, hate MORE socialized medicine. I think Bush may go down in history, as the guy that started stimulus checks. Somehow, I think there will always be a reason for more stimulus checks, from now on.

Hate's working for me. Keeps the mind working.

Got Records. Got School Records, Got Birth Certificate, long form of course.
 
You guys need to bring in the big guns. Today's attack on our president is pretty lame. You need some breaking news revealing the evil Obama's heritage from the nut wing blogosphere. Where's H2 and Blue when you need them?
 
You guys need to bring in the big guns. Today's attack on our president is pretty lame. You need some breaking news revealing the evil Obama's heritage from the nut wing blogosphere. Where's H2 and Blue when you need them?

Where do these simpletons come from? :confused: You are on the wrong forum cretin.....didn't you know your libby friends frown on wasting energy and polluting the mountain skies with sled exhaust? You have a case of mistaken identity? It's amazing how a libby can try to thwart simple logic. You are one of the better spin doctors, but still not good enough. Keep trying. You and I will dance later. I don't have the patience for your type tonight. I need to go drink beer and play while you get off on your keyboard....hahaha....do you have a Star Wars lightsaber too? hahaha


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You guys need to bring in the big guns. Today's attack on our president is pretty lame. You need some breaking news revealing the evil Obama's heritage from the nut wing blogosphere. Where's H2 and Blue when you need them?

OK, try this. They found nude pictures of Obama's mom. That'll show him.

Truth is, the health care thing has gotten such a steam lately, I doubt anyone needs to do anything else.
 
Ericbigbore said:


You're believing a lot of BS then. Hows all that hate working for you?

The hate sucks but look around buddy, were F'D!! It's not one side or the other, it's all of them!

You have zero substance to your points! You make a lame comment like you're on some intellectual and moral high ground but you can't back up anything.

How typical for an uninformed liberal sheep from Seattle..

At least Ruffy can make some great points, whether you agree with him or not, and believe it or not, I agree with him quite a bit. I'm sure I would agree with you on a lot of issues if you could make some kind of point but you have nothing but personal attacks. You've got nothing...

You think everyone on here is a hard core right winger but you are sooo wrong. I am an independent! I lean hard right on most issues especially when it comes to fiscal and personal responsibility, Immigration, the environment, gun rights, small government, liberty and justice. I lean left when it comes to organized religion or religion and politics, gay marriage, abortion, and stem cell research. So What? I agree, so the F what! Nobody here really cares as long as you bring something to the table.

At least am not afraid to say what I think when I disagree with H2 or MPS, I don't just attack them. I respect them, and usually respectfully disagree. Ruffy, Blue Fluff, Wade, Ollie, Wolf Run, ect. They all have substance to their comments and can make you think hard about your opinions. You have nothing...

See you on the dark side - E
 
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Sorry but in the USA we go by the US constitution to find the rules for presidency. You won't find the definition of citizen where you are looking. Here's a hint, it starts with 14th. Born in the USA. that's it, very easy to understand.

Go ahead and post up the 14th amendment and right under it give your intrepretation of what "Born in the USA means in that amendment, not wickipedia or Fox news interpretation or some other right wing lunatic blog BS. You can't spin the facts into anythig different. Obama was born in the USA.

According to the 14th Amendment, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

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that little phrase right there has A LOT of meaning to it. if im not mistaken, and i could be but i dont think i am, the STATUS of a natural born citizen is CONDITIONAL upon the aforementioned phrase. due to obama's father being subject to british jurisdiction(obviously not a citizen of the u.s.) that disavows obama's NBC.
 
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