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Obama's birth cert. issue not going away

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Good, Ollie. Ruffy, as I have said before Bo will never be my president until he comes up with paperwork to show who and what he is. I can't go to Canada fishing without a passport and I had to show my REAL birth certificate to get the pass port. Does Bo think he is better than us???
 
He must be better because he was up here awhile ago already.Good old Canada probably never even asked to see his passport.
 
My guess would be that once you hold the office of POTUS, you don't need a passport to go anywhere in the world! A.
 
You are talking about what? The legality of what? The person is who??

It doesn't matter what you view as the legality of the position he is holding. Right now, this instant, he is the President. Even if he is there illegally.

That is why, if something happened with Obama, he would be "removed" from what? From office..

You guys are playing word games... poorly I might add. ;)

That's all good points Ruffy, we'll figure it all out once we get the Birth Certificate. After all, there's no reason to worry, he's legit right? This is just a bunch of unreasonable Americans, asking for one sheet of paper. No one can expect a president to preform such extreme physical labor to provide a sheet of paper. How dare they. I mean, asking a president to provide documentation, that's never been done before. :rolleyes:

Caesar would be proud of Obama for standing up to these people. :eek:
 
Speaking of Canada, this was one of the theories in the link I posted earlier. I think the bracketed numbers are page numbers for reference, but I haven't looked more deeply.

Just throwing another option into the mix.

BTW, Obama Sr. is only 1/8 African, the rest is Arabic. Hmmmm, that'd make BHO2 NOT black!


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"Shortly after Dunham’s high school graduation in 1960 the family abruptly left Washington and moved to Hawaii, where she reluctantly enrolled at the University of Hawaii. (She had wanted to attend the University of Washington.) Taking his daughter with him to Hawaii was perhaps Stanley Armour Dunham’s way of keeping an eye on her. He may have been reluctant to leave her behind at the University of Washington, after at least one false pregnancy scare. At the University of Hawaii in her freshman year Dunham was described as shy and reluctant to participate in classroom discussions. Out of the classroom, she was friendly with the boys, frequently flirting and repeatedly touching them. Classmates say, “When Dunham arrived in Hawaii, she was a full-fledged radical leftist…” She also stopped using her first name Stanley at that time. [558, 564, 2291]

Knowing of her sexual reputation, Obama, Sr. supposedly told Dunham, “It’s not mine” when, in December of 1960, she informed him that she was pregnant. Obama, Sr.’s classmates knew he had a wife and children in Africa, but it has to be assumed that Dunham initially did not. She may have quickly found out, however, because Dunham left Obama, Sr. within a few weeks of her son’s birth. [564, 2287]

Dunham’s acquaintances recall that they often had difficulties knowing when she was telling the truth. One remarked, “She would make you believe anything while you were face-to-face but, a few minutes after she’d leave, you’d realize what she said wasn’t very… realistic or true,” explained one. Another friend recalls joining Dunham for dinner with her parents. Dunham tells an incredible story about a car accident. Her mother, knowing the tale was fabricated, lets her finish… and then states, “That never happened.” [564]

One Obama birth theory speculates that Dunham’s parents were disturbed by the news of the pregnancy (understandably, considering the scandal an interracial couple and an unwed pregnancy would have prompted in 1961), and likely tried to persuade her to give the child up for adoption and then claim she had miscarried. There is some speculation that Dunham left Hawaii and gave birth to Obama in Washington State (or perhaps British Columbia, Canada) at a facility for unwed mothers—and then decided to keep the baby. She then would have returned to Hawaii and registered the child’s birth there, claiming the child was born at home in Honolulu. (Had Obama been born in Washington State, Dunham would have had no need to later register his birth in Hawaii, but had he been born in Canada her doing so would have been understandable.) In August 1961, Dunham visited a friend in Seattle who had to show Dunham how to change the baby’s diaper. [564, 2655]

Almost immediately after giving birth to Obama, Dunham returns to Washington State to attend the University of Washington, leaving her infant to be cared for by her mother in Hawaii. Obama, Sr. remains at the University of Hawaii. [408]"
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On his non-black heritage:

A significant and understandable fuss has been made about Obama becoming the first African-American president. Obama is arguably not, however, “African-American.” His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was purportedly one-eighth African from his mother’s side (from the Luo tribe in Kenya) and his father’s ancestry is alleged to be Arabic. To the extent that is true, Obama is “Arab-African-American.” Obama is certainly not—like many black Americans—the descendant of African slaves owned by white American slave owners. There is insufficient publicly available evidence to state with certainty the percentages of Obama’s national ancestries, but if he has Arab ancestors Obama is more likely a descendant of slave owners than slaves because for centuries Arabs traditionally owned slaves and were active slave traders. The names “Barack” and “Hussein” are of Arab origin. “Barack” comes from the Arabic “baraka,” meaning “blessed,” and “baraka” means “blessing” in Kiswahili, a common language in Africa. “Hussein,” from the Arabic “Hussayn,” is a diminutive of “Hassan,” meaning “good” or “handsome;” it is a common Muslim name.
 
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You are talking about what? The legality of what? The person is who??

It doesn't matter what you view as the legality of the position he is holding. Right now, this instant, he is the President. Even if he is there illegally.

That is why, if something happened with Obama, he would be "removed" from what? From office..

You guys are playing word games... poorly I might add. ;)

What word games?
There are no word games.
What the big controvercy is about is his refusal to release information.
We have no idea of the legality of anything becuase he is throwing up smoke screens so as to not have to answer any questions.
The man is 2 faced. He demanded Hillary release information, he demanded McCain release information, yet he thinks he is immune??

There are no word games, we simply want to see the information.
Period.
 
What word games?
There are no word games.
What the big controvercy is about is his refusal to release information.
We have no idea of the legality of anything becuase he is throwing up smoke screens so as to not have to answer any questions.
The man is 2 faced. He demanded Hillary release information, he demanded McCain release information, yet he thinks he is immune??

There are no word games, we simply want to see the information.
Period.

Yah you are.. He is the PRESIDENT, right now. Will he be in the future, maybe not...

The point wasn't the legality of the position he is in, but which position he currently has, which is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES... By arguing the legality of Obama being president, you have to agree that he is President.

How can you argue against someone being President, when they are not President now? That is the point I am trying to make...

Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Yah you are.. He is the PRESIDENT, right now. Will he be in the future, maybe not...

The point wasn't the legality of the position he is in, but the position he currently is in, which is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES... By arguing the legality of his position, you first have to come to the fact that he is in that position in the first place.

And that is how you talk in a circle... :beer;
 
Yah you are.. He is the PRESIDENT, right now. Will he be in the future, maybe not...

The point wasn't the legality of the position he is in, but the position he currently is in, which is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES... By arguing the legality of his position, you first have to come to the fact that he is in that position in the first place.

..........Must take break to bang head against wall ..be back in a minute :face-icon-small-blu
 
Yah you are.. He is the PRESIDENT, right now. Will he be in the future, maybe not...

The point wasn't the legality of the position he is in, but which position he currently has, which is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES... By arguing the legality of Obama being president, you have to agree that he is President.

How can you argue against someone being President, when they are not President now? That is the point I am trying to make...

Sorry for the confusion.

Is a person with a Fake mdical degree, a doctor? Uhhhhh, he was until discovered, but he wasn't cause he didn't have legal degree. :eek:
 
Is a person with a Fake mdical degree, a doctor? Uhhhhh, he was until discovered, but he wasn't cause he didn't have legal degree. :eek:

Exactly, we already know he isn't a naturalized citizen because his father wasn't a citizen. Shocking I know! Can you believe it ruffy!? :eek:


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Is a person with a Fake mdical degree, a doctor? Uhhhhh, he was until discovered, but he wasn't cause he didn't have legal degree. :eek:

not an accurate comparison... yet again....

There is a difference, but it doesn't matter if you don't realize it..
 
not an accurate comparison... yet again....

There is a difference, but it doesn't matter if you don't realize it..

Beat me with the virtual bat of knowledge. One is a document of eligibility, and one is a document of eligibility. A board of medical practitioners fails to properly vet a candidate for a medical license. A board of the senate, election commission, and electoral college fails to properly vet a candidate for president of the united states.

Both might be real.
 
not an accurate comparison... yet again....

There is a difference, but it doesn't matter if you don't realize it..

kinda like ....you have been told that the sky is purple ...and you believe it .....doesn't really matter what you believe because ..........it is Blue ..period end of story.:eek:
 
Life must be hell for those that fear and hate their president for no founded reason.
 
Originally Posted by Snow Flake View Post
Life must be hell for those that fear and hate their president for no founded reason.

wade wrote:
Nope, it's kinda fun, picking on the factually disabled / emotionally enabled.

You got that right wade. I don't even have to be a good little googler cutting and pasting reams of unintelligible BS.
 
It's all about comparative purposes.

People like Fluff and Ollie are looking for The Truth. You can demean it with whatever noun you can thing of.

Others, well, their satisfied with things the way they are, and just maybe they really don't want to know.

The search for truth and knowledge is a higher purpose, than those that deny the quest. Let'em look.
 
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