Obama the socialist - revisitied...

[bonz50]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/obama-plumber-plan-spread-wealth/comments/

tells a plumber he has to tax him more so he can spread the wealth around... seriously, if McCain doesn't beat him to death with this club that has been so graciously handed to him I may not even vote for Mac... this is a friggin gem for the republicans

 

[Joe Mama]

Thank you Comrade Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[ruffryder]

Why is this a surprise? Isn't this what you have been arguing against for the last couple months?


yawn.....

 

[bigfoot]

Why is this a surprise? Isn't this what you have been arguing against for the last couple months?


yawn.....

Obama actually saying it out loud doesn't bother you? He's not even trying to hide the fact that he's a communist anymore and you're ok with that? Wow, comrade, that's impressive!

 

[dragon12]

I, as a plumber, am outraged that now I must share the wealth. I guess I will look for a new profession in early November. No more getting rich in this one.

 

[ruffryder]

Obama actually saying it out loud doesn't bother you? He's not even trying to hide the fact that he's a communist anymore and you're ok with that? Wow, comrade, that's impressive!

Of course I am ok with it... though I don't see much difference between out loud and laid out in his policies.... they are both his words/beliefs?

Why would I be mad? He already sent me this cool commie uniform, and it even came with a commie hat too! Lets all get together and dress a like and eat vanilla ice cream! lol

 

[bonz50]

how about this little tidbit....

"Yet, in the brutal winter of 1996, Obama all but ignored the little people in his district living without heat in their apartments. The landlord of the 31-unit apartment Englewood building turned off their heat in December 1996.

For five brutal winter weeks the tenants there had no heat, sitting in the cold from Dec. 27, 1996, until early February 1997, when the city of Chicago sued to turn the heat on. The case was settled later that month with a $100 fine.

However, as his fellow neighbors sat freezing in the Chicago winter, Obama accepted a political donation from the Englewood owners.

The Englewood owners claimed they did not have the money to turn the heat back on. The very same owners who claimed they did not have money gave cash to Obama.

The owners, Tony Rezko and his partner Dan Mahru managed to come up with $1,000 for Obama to help his political campaign fund even as they refused to turn on the heat for the people that Obama represented.

Of course, the help Obama gave to his landlord friend Rezko did not stop in 1997. In 1998, Obama wrote several letters, lobbying the state and city governments to award a company owned by Rezko, New Kenwood LLC, and a lucrative contract to run more housing for the poor. "

 

[bigfoot]

Of course I am ok with it... though I don't see much difference between out load and laid out in his policies.... they are both his words/beliefs?

It doesn't bother you that he will do what he can to force them onto you? I guess I already know the answer to that, just don't understand it.

Why would I be mad? He already sent me this cool commie uniform, and it even came with a commie hat too! Lets all get together and dress a like and eat vanilla ice cream! lol

Vote your boy in and we will be, comrade!

 

[ruffryder]

Does it matter to anyone, that the plumber most likely makes less then 200k (or 250k combined) them be net numbers too right?... a year and will actually see a reduction in taxes?....

Or should we all feel bad for the plumber.... cause he thinks he is getting screwed but isn't....?

Oh and if he is making more then 200k a year... he must be named Mario and finds gold coins all over the place...

 

[bigfoot]

Does it matter to anyone, that the plumber most likely makes less then 200k (or 250k combined) them be net numbers too right?... a year and will actually see a reduction in taxes?....

Or should we all feel bad for the plumber.... cause he thinks he is getting screwed but isn't....?

Oh and if he is making more then 200k a year... he must be named Mario and finds gold coins all over the place...

Still on the "were all gonna get tax cuts" bandwagon eh? Right. If he's a small business owner he will be pulling in over 200k in receipts if he has more than a couple employees, and he will be getting nailed with big tax increases.

Obama when he actually has voted, has never voted to decrease taxes, he isn't going to start now.

 

[POLZIN]

I could noy be more obvious that Mr Obama has absolutely no I dea how small business really works! more taxes will not help business' or our employees. The single most helpful thing the gov. ever did to help my business was to give us the tax breaks they offered after 9/11 . It allowed me to grow unfortunatly labor issues have limited the longevity of this prosperity. I have no direct proof but I noticed about the same time as pellosi and the moron brigade took over congress I started to see a decline and in todays economy my prospects are dim.

 

[ArcticBoy]

How about his tax cut for 95%???? Isn't it strange that over 33% don't pay any tax??? I think that's called an gift. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

 

[POLZIN]

Does it matter to anyone, that the plumber most likely makes less then 200k (or 250k combined) them be net numbers too right?... a year and will actually see a reduction in taxes?....

Or should we all feel bad for the plumber.... cause he thinks he is getting screwed but isn't....?

Oh and if he is making more then 200k a year... he must be named Mario and finds gold coins all over the place...

Every politician I have every heard says the same thing! No matter who your for they are all full of crap in 20+ years in business its only gotten worse! Thats a fact ! Should we take a poll of the bus. owners on here to verify that ? More politicians promises plain and simple . Its B.S. and you should Know better!

 

[COGrizzly]

Whether McCain or Obama wins the election, wouldn't anything they are proposing have to be put in front of Congress to be passed?

 

[framus]

Of course I am ok with it... though I don't see much difference between out loud and laid out in his policies.... they are both his words/beliefs?

Why would I be mad? He already sent me this cool commie uniform, and it even came with a commie hat too! Lets all get together and dress a like and eat vanilla ice cream! lol

Maybe since you're such a believer, Obama will nail your paycheck harder than mine...it is after all your patriotic duty.

Dat cute little uniform with the spiffy cap on all you boys goose-steping down pensyvainia ave. ought to be a sight. Of course only Ben and Jerry's ice cream....with the human t*ty milk will be allowed.

If our side only shows half the atitude that the left showed Bush, Obama will fold like a cheap suit. You want it...you aparently got it. Now, start delivering all that "CHANGE" LMAO

 

[Wade]

Why is this a surprise? Isn't this what you have been arguing against for the last couple months?

yawn.....

This should be a surprise to you Ruffy. Do I have to pull up your comments about the Obama's and McCain's economic plans being just about the same?

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Personally, I can't believe he said something so completely backwards to this countries capitalist foundation. The man is a freaking Commie. OK, now I have to make a list of countries that have redistributed the wealth, and how it turned out. I'll start with Zimbabwe.

If everyone in America heard this come out of his mouth, he'd be toast.

 

[Ollie]

How many people actually believe that a buisness owner is going to sit back and say "darn, guess I won't profit from my hard work, gotta give it to the people". They lay off workers, they cut hours, they shut down buisenesses.

Obama jumping taxes on people making over 250k is no different than putting people under 250k out of work. Don't think so? Look at the 70's. No-one looks to history.

 

[ruffryder]

This should be a surprise to you Ruffy. Do I have to pull up your comments about the Obama's and McCain's economic plans being just about the same?

Personally, I can't believe he said something so completely backwards to this countries capitalist foundation. The man is a freaking Commie. OK, now I have to make a list of countries that have redistributed the wealth, and how it turned out. I'll start with Zimbabwe.

If everyone in America heard this come out of his mouth, he'd be toast.

What makes it not a surprise is that a 5 percent increase on the those that make more then 200k coupled with tax decreases for those that make less, makes him a socialist... 5% increase in taxes goes from hardcore capitalist to hardcore socialist? Please as to the difference... yah as I said 5% increase on the wealthy... anyone got a percentage for the low and middle class? I doubt it is higher then 5-10%, but I don't know...... I mean how many degrees difference do you call that? It is not 180, nor even 90.. I would say maybe 20 or so? Small... very small

People that call him socialist think this is a capitalist society still.... It isn't any more and it hasn't been for a long while.... wake up people! That or just correct your use of words..

List of countries... I think you would be hard pressed to find one that doesn't... we do it now, and have always done it... Why is this so shocking to people? Did you guys finally start paying attention to how the system works? I am amazed....

 

[MTm7]

heres a good article making clear what exactly obama is about.

http://www.americanthinker.com/

 

[Wade]

What makes it not a surprise is that a 5 percent increase on the those that make more then 200k coupled with tax decreases for those that make less, makes him a socialist... 5% increase in taxes goes from hardcore capitalist to hardcore socialist? Please as to the difference... yah as I said 5% increase on the wealthy... anyone got a percentage for the low and middle class? I doubt it is higher then 5-10%, but I don't know...... I mean how many degrees difference do you call that? It is not 180, nor even 90.. I would say maybe 20 or so? Small... very small

People that call him socialist think this is a capitalist society still.... It isn't any more and it hasn't been for a long while.... wake up people! That or just correct your use of words..

List of countries... I think you would be hard pressed to find one that doesn't... we do it now, and have always done it... Why is this so shocking to people? Did you guys finally start paying attention to how the system works? I am amazed....

That's 5% income tax, and 6.2% payroll tax.

Even he knows he can't get true socialism overnight. It's the trend he wants to set. His stated goal is to spread the wealth around. The 5% is just the start. He's going to buy the poor vote. No better than buying votes, just he's going to use tax payer money instead of his own.

I don't hear him saying he's going to make the country stronger, just take from the rich and give to the poor. Great, in 4 years, we'll get back together and see what the return on investment is. Something tells me, the gain will be negative, and the investment will bankrupt us. The poor are a "very large gravitational singularity" you can poor money in. (wouldn't want to be accused of being racist)

A better question Ruffy, why aren't you outraged?

Taxation without proportional representation. Hmmmm, where's the tea?

Isn't this interesting, McCain fought communism most of his life, and now he's running against one.