Northern Rockies Protection Act at it again and this time it WILL PASS
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SnowSnob
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How have these 2 douches stayed in office? They both have voted for more Wilderness. If anyone needs a talking too it's these two d-bags.
I'll call both this week but they got their hands so deep in the enviros pockets I'm not sure if it will matter.
Denny is MT's only hope for this kinda thing. I say we line Denny's pockets just so he'll punch out Tester and Baucus for us.
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bfchiro
Member
Just made the phone call to my senators here in Washington. I personally think a phone call does much better that sending a chain email, but anything is better than nothing. I guess I don't get the greenies problem with snowmobiles. Its snow.....yes there is some noise, but big deal.
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Ollie
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I sent the letters off (again).
I have come to the conclusion that all the letters, calls and such don't do any good.
It hasn't opened up any land already stolen, it hasn't stopped any land from being stolen.
So, I am just going to ride it anyway. Take a piece of duct tape to cover the permit and ride anyway. If they can actually catch me, then I deserve a ticket and they better be good riders cause I ain't stopping.
I have come to the conclusion that all the letters, calls and such don't do any good.
It hasn't opened up any land already stolen, it hasn't stopped any land from being stolen.
So, I am just going to ride it anyway. Take a piece of duct tape to cover the permit and ride anyway. If they can actually catch me, then I deserve a ticket and they better be good riders cause I ain't stopping.
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Rubi
Member
I agree with the people that say to make a phone call. There are so many mass emails and faxes coming in, that those are pretty much ignored. It's very simple to make the call. Some snively-nosed little liberal staffer will answer the phone, you will state the name and number of the bill, then you'll say you DON'T support its passage. Respectfully state why you feel that way if you want, and you're done ....repeat until exhaustion.
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SnowSnob
Well-known member
I hear ya Ollie. It's like we're trying to kill a Bull with a stick. You might slow it down a little but your not going to stop it.
So how do we get a gun to shoot this Bull?
I think we need to fight fire with fire and start buying off politicians like the greenies have.
I currently don't donate to BRC or SAWS but after this I'll sacrifice a little mod money to keep my riding areas. I hope this is a big enough scare for everyone to feel the same.
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EricW
Well-known member
I have been working this stuff from a different angle as well. As both my parents are members of the Colville Confederated Tribes I have been pushing the point that PWA's (proposed wilderness areas) and wilderness designation both deny traditional tribal uses on these lands such as hunting, fishing, gathering, firewood, meditation, and even cerimonial prayer. I'm not saying that these uses are not the rights of non-members, i'm just saying that the tribal component of these restricted land uses seems to pack a little more concern especially for the liberal officials who dream them up.
If you know of any family or friends with tribal ties to these areas you need to get them involved and have them push their respective tribal leaders to get involved as well. Restricting land use on traditional tribal areas or areas that benefit tribal members seems to take the game to a different level that is not so promising for these whacks so far.
I am also pushing for continued shared motorized uses in our local PWA's for the disabled public as well. For many of my disabled friends, motorized use is the only opportunity they have to access these areas that they love. Throwing the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) into the mix may well have the same impact on these decisions as the tribal component. I'm going to push that way since being a tax paying American doesn't seem to be enough any more.
Thanks to all for getting involved, and be sure to get your native and disabled friends involved too, they will loose in this as well. US Senators and Representatives need to hear from them. EW
If you know of any family or friends with tribal ties to these areas you need to get them involved and have them push their respective tribal leaders to get involved as well. Restricting land use on traditional tribal areas or areas that benefit tribal members seems to take the game to a different level that is not so promising for these whacks so far.
I am also pushing for continued shared motorized uses in our local PWA's for the disabled public as well. For many of my disabled friends, motorized use is the only opportunity they have to access these areas that they love. Throwing the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) into the mix may well have the same impact on these decisions as the tribal component. I'm going to push that way since being a tax paying American doesn't seem to be enough any more.
Thanks to all for getting involved, and be sure to get your native and disabled friends involved too, they will loose in this as well. US Senators and Representatives need to hear from them. EW
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Kordero
Well-known member
I received a response from my rep Jay Inslee (D WA) regarding an email I sent a month or so ago. Had to take the time to send a follow up letting him know I STILL OPPOSE HR980!!
I also ride mtn bikes and in the latest issue of BIKE magazine there is a very big article regarding the Wilderness fight. The article focuses on the Montana proposed closures. This is the first time I have seen a magazine I regularly read use major space and resources to educate it's user group/readership/constinuency on Wilderness and the effects it WILL HAVE on our recreational freedoms.
I also ride mtn bikes and in the latest issue of BIKE magazine there is a very big article regarding the Wilderness fight. The article focuses on the Montana proposed closures. This is the first time I have seen a magazine I regularly read use major space and resources to educate it's user group/readership/constinuency on Wilderness and the effects it WILL HAVE on our recreational freedoms.
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hilinerider
Well-known member
theres alot more votes with idiots back east then there is us in the west,
thats why we need help from people in other states other wise we are screwed!!
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rynokron
Well-known member
I have contacted my WA reps about this and many other issues only to politely be told to F off. They are all for it.
I did the same. I copy/pasted the letter from ARRA. Found my congressmans website and sent him the letter. Ive only been riding out west since I was 16, now almost 22, and this bill would wipe out every place I've ever rode. I have many years of riding ahead of me and I DONT want to spend them in the flatlands.
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mtcatgirl
Member
Nice to see some interest in this.
Yellowstone to Yukon or maybe it will become Montana National Park, Idaho National Park, Wyoming National Park, Oregon National Park, Washington National Park--that's where we're all going to be if the wilderness advocates have their way with us. Nice to see some are actually checking out the maps with this instead of brushing it off!
The SAWS chaiman has already mentioned looking at the February 09 SAWS alert about this for more information on what NREPA is all about.
It does seem like we are beating a dead horse; but this dead horse keeps rising from the ashes with the likes of people that don't even live in the states affected by this!
Here's the SAWS link again. Read it, you might come across something you've missed.
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/09/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm
Don't stop at just contacting your own state representative(s) and senator(s). Contact everyone associated with even the thought of moving this resolution on. Hopefully, this will never make it to a House vote. HR980-Look at the house committe member list first, that's where this piece of work is sitting now. Contact everyone or send a message to the committe chairman requesting your message be provided to everyone sitting on the committe. Add a politically correct personal touch to your comments.
Members on the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands
Mr. Raúl M. Grijalva, Arizona, Chairman
Mr. Rob Bishop, Utah, Ranking Republican Member
Democrat members:
Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
Grace F. Napolitano, California
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
Madeleine Z. Bordallo, Guam
Dan Boren, Oklahoma
Martin Heinrich, New Mexico
Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
Maurice D. Hinchey, New York
Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands
Diana DeGette, Colorado
Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Lois Capps, California
Jay Inslee, Washington
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, South Dakota
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire
Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts
Pedro R. Pierluisi, Puerto Rico
Nick J. Rahall, II, West Virginia
and the Republicans:
Don Young, Alaska
Elton Gallegly, California
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee
Jeff Flake, Arizona
Henry E. Brown, Jr., South Carolina
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania
Robert J. Wittman, Virginia
Paul C. Broun, Georgia
Mike Coffman, Colorado
Cynthia M. Lummis, Wyoming
Tom McClintock, California
Doc Hastings, Washington
and don't forget, if they fail getting this passed, they have another plan knocking at the door. STAY Involved!
Yellowstone to Yukon or maybe it will become Montana National Park, Idaho National Park, Wyoming National Park, Oregon National Park, Washington National Park--that's where we're all going to be if the wilderness advocates have their way with us. Nice to see some are actually checking out the maps with this instead of brushing it off!
The SAWS chaiman has already mentioned looking at the February 09 SAWS alert about this for more information on what NREPA is all about.
It does seem like we are beating a dead horse; but this dead horse keeps rising from the ashes with the likes of people that don't even live in the states affected by this!
Here's the SAWS link again. Read it, you might come across something you've missed.
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/09/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm
Don't stop at just contacting your own state representative(s) and senator(s). Contact everyone associated with even the thought of moving this resolution on. Hopefully, this will never make it to a House vote. HR980-Look at the house committe member list first, that's where this piece of work is sitting now. Contact everyone or send a message to the committe chairman requesting your message be provided to everyone sitting on the committe. Add a politically correct personal touch to your comments.
Members on the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands
Mr. Raúl M. Grijalva, Arizona, Chairman
Mr. Rob Bishop, Utah, Ranking Republican Member
Democrat members:
Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
Grace F. Napolitano, California
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
Madeleine Z. Bordallo, Guam
Dan Boren, Oklahoma
Martin Heinrich, New Mexico
Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
Maurice D. Hinchey, New York
Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands
Diana DeGette, Colorado
Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Lois Capps, California
Jay Inslee, Washington
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, South Dakota
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire
Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts
Pedro R. Pierluisi, Puerto Rico
Nick J. Rahall, II, West Virginia
and the Republicans:
Don Young, Alaska
Elton Gallegly, California
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee
Jeff Flake, Arizona
Henry E. Brown, Jr., South Carolina
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania
Robert J. Wittman, Virginia
Paul C. Broun, Georgia
Mike Coffman, Colorado
Cynthia M. Lummis, Wyoming
Tom McClintock, California
Doc Hastings, Washington
and don't forget, if they fail getting this passed, they have another plan knocking at the door. STAY Involved!
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m7bandit
Active member
have contacted my states reps would like phone numbers to other states. some reasons to oppose hr980 it interfears with our use of renewable resources, plus restricts access of the disabled and elderly which is in violation of constitual rights for the pursuit of happiness
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CleElum Sledhead
Well-known member
SAWS members:
In February 2009, our members received a SAWS Action Alert regarding the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA) that had been recently reintroduced in the 111th Congress by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-New York. This new NREPA bill in this Congress is HR980.
Please review our previous alert from February 2009 at this link:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/...lert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm
Recently, SAWS has been informed by Brian Hawthorne at the BlueRibbon Coalition, that there may be a committee hearing on NREPA the first week of May. This will not be the first time this legislation has had a committee hearing, but it is important that our elected representatives know how we feel about this lousy legislation. If you did not contact your U.S. Representative last February, or even if you did, it is important that you contact them again within the next week and tell them you do not support this legislation!
Link to look up and contact your US Representative:
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Comment deadline: Sunday May 3, 2009
NREPA will affect significant acreage (23 -24 millions acres) across the Intermountain and Western states of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming as shown in the maps provided at this link:
http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/issues/nrepa/mapIndex.shtml
Here is a link to the tracking summary:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-980
You may also wish to take a few minutes to listen to SAWS chairman, Dave Hurwitz' interview with Lee Hinkelman in regards to the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act. Dave makes excellent points on the distinction of what wilderness is as opposed to publicly managed lands. There is also mention of how stimulus monies are directed at tearing up 6000 miles of roads. Lee broadcasts from New York but recognizes the values we all hold with the power of our voice to our senators and representatives nationwide. NREPA will affect the entire country in some manner not just within the states where actual closures are proposed primarily in the West. Click on segments 3 and 4 from the Weekend of February 21, 2009 once you have linked to the connection:
http://www.bigfrog104.com/TipsforBe...County/SnowmobileShow/tabid/3397/Default.aspx
Some of our newer SAWS members may also wish to review our SAWS alert from October 2007, just in case this is the first time you have heard about this outrageous legislation. SAWS has been opposing this legislation and informing our members about this proposal for many years:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/...Northern_Rockies_Ecosystem_Protection_Act.htm
If not you, then who else will help stop this insanity?
Janine Stewart
Montana SAWS rep
Snowmobile Alliance of Western States
In February 2009, our members received a SAWS Action Alert regarding the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA) that had been recently reintroduced in the 111th Congress by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-New York. This new NREPA bill in this Congress is HR980.
Please review our previous alert from February 2009 at this link:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/...lert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm
Recently, SAWS has been informed by Brian Hawthorne at the BlueRibbon Coalition, that there may be a committee hearing on NREPA the first week of May. This will not be the first time this legislation has had a committee hearing, but it is important that our elected representatives know how we feel about this lousy legislation. If you did not contact your U.S. Representative last February, or even if you did, it is important that you contact them again within the next week and tell them you do not support this legislation!
Link to look up and contact your US Representative:
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Comment deadline: Sunday May 3, 2009
NREPA will affect significant acreage (23 -24 millions acres) across the Intermountain and Western states of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming as shown in the maps provided at this link:
http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/issues/nrepa/mapIndex.shtml
Here is a link to the tracking summary:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-980
You may also wish to take a few minutes to listen to SAWS chairman, Dave Hurwitz' interview with Lee Hinkelman in regards to the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act. Dave makes excellent points on the distinction of what wilderness is as opposed to publicly managed lands. There is also mention of how stimulus monies are directed at tearing up 6000 miles of roads. Lee broadcasts from New York but recognizes the values we all hold with the power of our voice to our senators and representatives nationwide. NREPA will affect the entire country in some manner not just within the states where actual closures are proposed primarily in the West. Click on segments 3 and 4 from the Weekend of February 21, 2009 once you have linked to the connection:
http://www.bigfrog104.com/TipsforBe...County/SnowmobileShow/tabid/3397/Default.aspx
Some of our newer SAWS members may also wish to review our SAWS alert from October 2007, just in case this is the first time you have heard about this outrageous legislation. SAWS has been opposing this legislation and informing our members about this proposal for many years:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/...Northern_Rockies_Ecosystem_Protection_Act.htm
If not you, then who else will help stop this insanity?
Janine Stewart
Montana SAWS rep
Snowmobile Alliance of Western States
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MTdream
Well-known member
great job EricW nice tactic, and it will work if enough use it...
I am completely blown away at the lack of engagement on a few forums...Maybe people just dont think this is real or something, but some of these communities will be devastated financially if these proposed closures happen...
this is one of those times where we have to pull out all the options!!! this is real!!!
I am completely blown away at the lack of engagement on a few forums...Maybe people just dont think this is real or something, but some of these communities will be devastated financially if these proposed closures happen...
this is one of those times where we have to pull out all the options!!! this is real!!!
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