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Minneapolis (aka Chicago West) is burning

Turns out they did tear gas protestors in D.C. on Monday. So that was another lie.

They are building a wall around the White House today. Bunker Baby Trump can use his regular toilet to post to Twitter now. He must be happier.

I wonder if Mexico will pay for it? Lol
 
It really sucks that a person died , hopefully justice will be done . One of my biggest scares in life was when my son said he wanted to be a cop . I was so thankful when he realized what a horrible job that can be and dealing with violence on a daily basis can not be left at the office by the end of the day . Maybe there needs to be a time limit on how long a law enforcement should do specific jobs . It sure would be appreciated if it where that way with politicians .
It's still no excuse for destroying other peoples property . They have no idea how hard it is to support their livelihood .
 
...and, nobody ever compares these percentages/numbers with the amount crimes committed by each group?

(i.e. - 1 non-black killed by PO for every 100K crimes committed by non-black vs. 1 black killed by PO for every 50K crimes committed. Now THAT’S 2:1, sorta...)

Could even be taken several steps further with the seriousness of the crimes committed. It’s not as simple (no not our SIMPLE ?) as everyone tries to make it look.

Correct me if I’m wrong, cause l’ve only been wrong one time in my whole life. ?
It's a never ending rabbit hole...chicken or the egg. Do POC actually commit more crimes...or are they accused/arrested at a higher rate due to systemic racism in the judicial system?

If they actually commit more crimes per capita....what is the cause? They are naturally disposed to it? Highly unlikely. Yet highly likely that it is due to poverty, and lack of good education/access to good education. Likely due again to systemic racism since the dawn of time.

I think the current (very apparent and very public) problems USA is currently facing can easily be tracked back to 1 simple issue - a lack of widespread, high quality public education. From the "top -> down" and the "bottom -> up" on the social scale. Quality education being one that also focuses on practices and policies working/not working beyond borders, not just within. Easy to identify - harder to fix. Maybe not hard actually....just expensive, and requiring leadership that's interested. That's not to say they're aren't plently of smart people - there obviously are. We are talking an average national deficiency, with a disproportionate affect on low income income areas/families.

Good stuff as usual MH
 
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It's a never ending rabbit hole...chicken or the egg. Do POC actually commit more crimes...or are they accused/arrested at a higher rate due to systemic racism in the judicial system?

If they actually commit more crimes per capita....what is the cause? They are naturally disposed to it? Highly unlikely. Yet highly likely that it is due to poverty, and lack of good education/access to good education. Likely due again to systemic racism since the dawn of time.

I think the current (very apparent and very public) problems USA is currently facing can easily be tracked back to 1 simple issue - a lack of widespread, high quality public education. From the "top -> down" and the "bottom -> up" on the social scale. Quality education being one that also focuses on practices and policies working/not working beyond borders, not just within. Easy to identify - harder to fix. Maybe not hard actually....just expensive, and requiring leadership that's interested. That's not to say they're aren't plently of smart people - there obviously are. We are talking an average national deficiency, with a disproportionate affect on low income income areas/families.

Good stuff as usual MH

A lot of that summed up here:

 
A lot of that summed up here:
I never assumed George Floyd was/wasn't a righteous person elsewhere in life. Lots of people have done some good stuff and some bad stuff....some have done a lot of bad stuff....yup, no argument there. Usually when people die you try to celebrate the good in their life, this just happens to be on a grand scale amongst a great deal of political and social angst.

Does the black community need some help from the inside-out, as well as the outside-in? Yup, no argument there either. Disagree that racial-motivated police brutality is "not a thing" ...but hey, can't agree on everything.

It's quite easy to make great sounding videos, or write eloquent articles about controversial goings-on in hind site. Really easy. With enough dissection and analyses, you can find points to support whatever view you hold and make it sound good or "right."
 
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Anything she or Turning Point USA should be noted as purely argumentive opinion pieces to continue the divide between people. Intelligent and makes passionate points but ultimately looking to fight rather than come together. I'm not a fan unless it at least it has a sense of humor about how ridiculous they are. They don't and other taking heads know that it is easy to pop the bubble of fake outrage for clicks and views.
 
Jaynelson , just a question about education .

How is it possible that a quality education across the board can be done when the previous President passed the no child left behind act ?

Learning to graduate is no longer required .
 
Blame game is always easier than solutions, no argument there either. That's a total cop-out and buying in to it lets the powers that be off the hook for improvement. Look beyond US borders for systems working well in other countries, adapt a system for the US, and invest in it. Don't have to re-invent the wheel, just need a dose of humility at government decision making level, and someone to sell it to the public, because you will need *gasp* public money. But more than anything, you need to unite the people in order to move forward.

Too many years of the red vs. blue, Chevy vs. Ford mentality....busy playing the "why your team sucks" game while falling behind in critical areas like education. The fruits of that are coming home to roost during these tough times...wouldn't you agree?
 
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Jaynelson , just a question about education .

How is it possible that a quality education across the board can be done when the previous President passed the no child left behind act ?

Learning to graduate is no longer required .
Man you are just wrapping an act into one statement on graduation? You realize it isn't in place any longer? 2015 ESSA is the new policy. Trump and Devos are still trying to change it nearly 4 years later but they are both corrupt nitwits and can't seem to focus on getting politics out of education.

Need a Wikipedia link?
 
Blame game is always easier than solutions, no argument there either. That's a total cop-out and buying in to it lets the powers that be off the hook for improvement. Look beyond US borders for systems working well in other countries, adapt a system for the US, and invest in it. Don't have to re-invent the wheel, just need a dose of humility at government decision making level, and someone to sell it to the public, because you will need *gasp* public money. But more than anything, you need to unite the people in order to move forward.

l can think of several areas where money could be, reallocated! ?

Too many years of the red vs. blue, Chevy vs. Ford mentality....busy playing the "why your team sucks" game while falling behind in critical areas like education. The fruits of that are coming home to roost during these tough times...wouldn't you agree?

Yep. I could never figure out why some people seem to put more effort(?) into their favorite team, than they do their own life. Better to be a spectator, than a fanatic, IMO.
 
Even before public education comes family. How many of these people in question were raised by grandma..............
 
How many people here were raised in a military family? Adopted family? Family with 1st generation immigrants? Family with homosexual elders? Family where everyone used nicknames? Family that left their country because fascist dictators took over? Family that drank bagged milk? Family where all men had one testicle? Family with only high school education? Family where everyone pyscho analyzed everyone else? Lol no but really I was raised by Jedi or wolves...I can't remember.
 
How many people here were raised in a military family? Adopted family? Family with 1st generation immigrants? Family with homosexual elders? Family where everyone used nicknames? Family that left their country because fascist dictators took over? Family that drank bagged milk? Family where all men had one testicle? Family with only high school education? Family where everyone pyscho analyzed everyone else? Lol no but really I was raised by Jedi or wolves...I can't remember.
So you dont think a stable family unit gives youth a better chance at sucess?
 
So you dont think a stable family unit gives youth a better chance at sucess?
I guess so...I have no benchmark "stable" family to go off of though.

I had a similar conversation with friends recently. I don't know of a single family in existence than doesn't have it's black sheeps. I do know that family will generally protect that black sheep and even get themselves dragged into the mess without realizing what is happening. I live in a small town that families are spread around. Even with constant support from birth little Jimmie can turn into an arsonist and try to burn down the farm.

It isn't that easy. We don't exist in a bubble. In fact in recent years from the internet the ability to keep your family in the bubble has grown nearly impossible.

But yes...LOVE wins... always...it fixes everything.. seriously
 
I read what you posted Simple , don't know why Oboma took credit for the no child left behind but he tooted his horn over it .
My family was from another country to answer your other question also .
Yes , I know what poverty means , I know what it's like waking up on a mattress froze to the floor , dumping water off the kitchen wood stove on the frozen hand well pump , wiping my butt with sears and roebuck paper and helping move the outhouse from on hole to another . Step dad was a drunk half sister I barely talk to . I did my best with my kids , never laid a hand on them , they don't know what a beating with a belt feels like or any of the above . One of them is an electrical engineer with a master's in coding and the other will probably be self employed like the old man . Sure as hell not looking for sympathy or hand outs .
So yes I have a problem understanding the demand for hand outs and not doing anything for their families or this country .
 
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