Lets talk Motec stand alone ECUs

[Duke]

Man lack of snow is getting everyone fired up! Well here is my two cents. We run the new Impulse stand alone with fuel/timing. We have launch control, switch for two maps, cam sensor and the option to have a race harness like we do that plugs into factory plugs. We can also run stock, LS1, MSD coils etc. We can run one set of injectors or like on the raptor we use the stock injector blender with a second 750cc injector. We run 10lbs to 28lbs of boost, pump to Q16 race fuel and 9:1 to 11:1 compression all with great results. We also have a cnc ported head with bigger valves, bigger cams, strokers etc. This set up has been designed and tested just for sled/quads and the support is great. Can something else work as good? A course there is more than one good fuel management system out there.

I think competition is great and can only do good things for the sport, plus it's more fun to whoop on a group of sleds instead of one

I always say, I'll give credit where credit is due, it sounds like you have some pretty cool stuff going on and some cool toys your building. I'd like to see some of your stuff work, you ever travel to BC in the winter?

 

[MCX KILLER]

I'm not sure what you expect coming on here calling down fuel controllers/systems that guys like Paul and Neil have invested their hard earned money, time, winters, and sleds for. They have helped alot of people regain faith in their turbo sleds after some internet cracker suckered them into buying some POS that doesnt work. You need to get some sleds in the mountains here, get some guys that can really ride/tune, test and push your chit to the limit. Thats the only way your going to have a successful product. You talk about "Pro Tuners", I call these guys pro tuners, not some geek with a dyno, degree and a laptop telling me something will work. These guys have video, movies, pictures to PROVE their stuff lays smack on the mountain. So jump in your little blue and lets see this chit.

Telling down??NO im just saying there are always better things out there. I have never sed IMPULSE OR BOOST IT IS BAD ****T.I have tryed lotts of different piggy back stuff, and those im not satiesfied with. I emailed NM and explained him what my plans were with his syst in the dyno.And if it was a good system i would defenetly sell many syst for him.But he did not get back to me till now. If people can reed they can see im telling that impulse got great stuff.But snowmobilers sems to back up in a corner ,and bring their spikes out,to back up their own stuff.There are always better things out there guys.

 

[MCX KILLER]

Man lack of snow is getting everyone fired up! Well here is my two cents. We run the new Impulse stand alone with fuel/timing. We have launch control, switch for two maps, cam sensor and the option to have a race harness like we do that plugs into factory plugs. We can also run stock, LS1, MSD coils etc. We can run one set of injectors or like on the raptor we use the stock injector blender with a second 750cc injector. We run 10lbs to 28lbs of boost, pump to Q16 race fuel and 9:1 to 11:1 compression all with great results. We also have a cnc ported head with bigger valves, bigger cams, strokers etc. This set up has been designed and tested just for sled/quads and the support is great. Can something else work as good? A course there is more than one good fuel management system out there.

I think competition is great and can only do good things for the sport, plus it's more fun to whoop on a group of sleds instead of one

Hi did you notice any diference mounting the msd coils? What kind of switch are you guys using to change between maps,?Thanks Bjørn

 

[zebiraross]

Telling down??NO im just saying there are always better things out there. I have never sed IMPULSE OR BOOST IT IS BAD ****T.I have tryed lotts of different piggy back stuff, and those im not satiesfied with. I emailed NM and explained him what my plans were with his syst in the dyno.And if it was a good system i would defenetly sell many syst for him.But he did not get back to me till now. If people can reed they can see im telling that impulse got great stuff.But snowmobilers sems to back up in a corner ,and bring their spikes out,to back up their own stuff.There are always better things out there guys.

We were never talking about piggybacks in this thread. Please refer to my previous 3 posts so I dont have to repeat myself. You say yours is better then the Impulse. I asked you to show me how this was the case and you still avoid the question and called me stupid when in reality your the idiot because you dont have a answer. And because you dont you are now trying to say that a standalone is better then a piggyback. Were not talking about piggybacks. Of course standalones are better then a piggyback. The reality is you have no clue what system impulse uses for his standalone. And because of this you have no base to make a claim that yours its better because you have nothing to base your claim off of. And if your trying to be a ambassador for your standalone your failing miserably.

 

[MCX KILLER]

We were never talking about piggybacks in this thread. Please refer to my previous 3 posts so I dont have to repeat myself. You say yours is better then the Impulse. I asked you to show me how this was the case and you still avoid the question and called me stupid when in reality your the idiot because you dont have a answer. And because you dont you are now trying to say that a standalone is better then a piggyback. Were not talking about piggybacks. Of course standalones are better then a piggyback. The reality is you have no clue what system impulse uses for his standalone. And because of this you have no base to make a claim that yours its better because you have nothing to base your claim off of. And if your trying to be a ambassador for your standalone your failing miserably.

First of all you are a moderator and call people stupid???hmmm But seriously you can not have a clew about engine tuning and standalone systems. give paul a call and ask his opinion,a pro syst costs 5000+usd compleate.and then you have to mount and tune the ****t.Impulse uses stock sensors no coils +++ and how mutch does it cost?? it speaks for itself. same softwear??? Do you get the softwear so you can mod the map,for self tuning???does it have a sep triggerwheel?same softwear as motec hmmm??hmmmyou really dont know. talk about repeting yourself,can you read? or just dont you wanna understand? sick of this ****t .wont make more coments about this imp syst.FINITO

 

[pus1100]

hey mcx killer,looks like these guys dont belive you have the best apex money can buy,either.same **** from you,but on a different forum.
please dont feed this troll.boova,why do you have to edit your posts all the time?

 

[smokindave]

First of all you are a moderator and call people stupid???hmmm But seriously you can not have a clew about engine tuning and standalone systems. give paul a call and ask his opinion,a pro syst costs 5000+usd compleate.and then you have to mount and tune the ****t.Impulse uses stock sensors no coils +++ and how mutch does it cost?? it speaks for itself. same softwear??? Do you get the softwear so you can mod the map,for self tuning???does it have a sep triggerwheel?same softwear as motec hmmm??hmmmyou really dont know. talk about repeting yourself,can you read? or just dont you wanna understand? sick of this ****t .wont make more coments about this imp syst.FINITO

I honestly wish I could believe you when you say you are finished here but I am sure you'll be back.

As for the thumbs up on your post,that was a accident,I ment to give you thumbs down.

 

[EZmoney]

This is the busiest the turbo section has been in a long time and you guys want this guy to disappear? lol Opinions are like a**holes and everyone has one. Hes got his opinion on whats the best. So does NM, Zeb and myself ect.. Maybe his stuff rocks??

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

I guess not everyone has as much cash as you...some people have to drive a Hyundai as they have no other choice.

i have to disagree with you Neil...the price of this year's standalone entering the market will not be higher than your boost-it complete systeme......so i guess all can now drive a mercedes!

 

[smokindave]

This is the busiest the turbo section has been in a long time and you guys want this guy to disappear? lol Opinions are like a**holes and everyone has one. Hes got his opinion on whats the best. So does NM, Zeb and myself ect.. Maybe his stuff rocks??

His stuff may rock but his people skills sure suck.
I kind of do hope he does stick around though,for a ***** he has been entertaining.

I probally wouldn't buy anything off of him though....

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

His stuff may rock but his people skills sure suck.
I kind of do hope he does stick around though,for a ***** he has been entertaining.

I probally wouldn't buy anything off of him though....

Smokindave, as a super moderator i think you should be a little more quiet and stop posting your personal feeling about people.No big deal for you to post your ideas,but why aren't you quiting puting down people for their language barrier......? show us your skills in french or norwegan??

 

[RIDECATS]

Serious Questions

... who would offer "pro level" tuning services for these on sleds, i work with similar sophisticated devices and its takes lots of hands on to get good with something like what is being described. these folks are hard to find, really hard.

... more features and options CAN be good or CAN be bad depending on how well integrated and implemented a system is. Sometimes KISS is best method if desired results are achieved. Not clear as to what you are offering and main improvements on this majic box.

...this is such a small market globally seems like difficult long term business. I can't see how that is "worth it" - agree or not?

 

[smokindave]

Smokindave, as a super moderator i think you should be a little more quiet and stop posting your personal feeling about people.No big deal for you to post your ideas,but why aren't you quiting puting down people for their language barrier......? show us your skills in french or norwegan??

I think you might be a LITTLE confused here,language barrier not a chance.

 

[SPOOLED]

First of all you are a moderator and call people stupid???hmmm But seriously you can not have a clew about engine tuning and standalone systems. give paul a call and ask his opinion,a pro syst costs 5000+usd compleate.and then you have to mount and tune the ****t.Impulse uses stock sensors no coils +++ and how mutch does it cost?? it speaks for itself. same softwear??? Do you get the softwear so you can mod the map,for self tuning???does it have a sep triggerwheel?same softwear as motec hmmm??hmmmyou really dont know. talk about repeting yourself,can you read? or just dont you wanna understand? sick of this ****t .wont make more coments about this imp syst.FINITO

Ok ill enlighten you a little all you are stating with no progress is that your speculating what the Impluse standalone can and cannot do. Well the standalone was developed by him. He didn't buy a off the shelf universal
Motec. The thermisistor sensors can be calibrated to use what ever sensors he wishes stock or not. The code is also written two be used with the stock trigger wheel in the Nytro and Apex. also which are programmable to use whichever wheels he wants "missing tooth". as for the coils the apex and nytro can use the stock coils which his ecu has drivers to run them as well as aftermarket coils which the ecu controls and if he wishes, the ecu has logic level outputs to control ls1 type coils as well the wasted spark coils your most likely using. oh and also when your sled is covered in deep snow you motec will most likely ****e the bed, my impulse shock and waterproof ecu will keep on going.

 

[zebiraross]

First of all you are a moderator and call people stupid???hmmm But seriously you can not have a clew about engine tuning and standalone systems. give paul a call and ask his opinion,a pro syst costs 5000+usd compleate.and then you have to mount and tune the ****t.Impulse uses stock sensors no coils +++ and how mutch does it cost?? it speaks for itself. same softwear??? Do you get the softwear so you can mod the map,for self tuning???does it have a sep triggerwheel?same softwear as motec hmmm??hmmmyou really dont know. talk about repeting yourself,can you read? or just dont you wanna understand? sick of this ****t .wont make more coments about this imp syst.FINITO

you just proved my point. You have no clue what sensors impulse uses, nor the software, nor any other component of the impulse standalone system. And because this is the case you have no way to even compare his system with yours or anyone elses. So before you start spouting off on how much better yours is then anyone elses at least be educated enough to know what the other system has. Do you inderstand now? Go ahead and read again slowly, I know you are having a hard time understanding my point.

Impulse uses only two stock sensors. One is the crank angle and the other is cam angle. There is also a AIT, coolant sensor, tps. There is no external trigger wheel used, the stock flywheel is more then adequate in conjunction with the CAS to give a good signal. That is if you can build a appropriate circuit board to manage the signal, which paul spent hours and hours on. We run full sequential, not wasted spark with this set up. he also runs 4 drivers for the coils and 4 drivers for the injectors.

I know plenty about standalone systems and standalone tuning, I've tuned several aem ems mitsubishi cars so this isn't my first rodeo. I'm certainly not in the same league as Paul, but I know enough

 

[zebiraross]

Ok ill enlighten you a little all you are stating with no progress is that your speculating what the Impluse standalone can and cannot do. Well the standalone was developed by him. He didn't buy a off the shelf universal
Motec. The thermisistor sensors can be calibrated to use what ever sensors he wishes stock or not. The code is also written two be used with the stock trigger wheel in the Nytro and Apex. also which are programmable to use whichever wheels he wants "missing tooth". as for the coils the apex and nytro can use the stock coils which his ecu has drivers to run them as well as aftermarket coils which the ecu controls and if he wishes, the ecu has logic level outputs to control ls1 type coils as well the wasted spark coils your most likely using. oh and also when your sled is covered in deep snow you motec will most likely ****e the bed, my impulse shock and waterproof ecu will keep on going.

Great post

 

[NM]

i have to disagree with you Neil...the price of this year's standalone entering the market will not be higher than your boost-it complete systeme......so i guess all can now drive a mercedes!

Oh boy..your back
You are like a bad cough I just can't shake. Ok I will bite, and I am sure you know the size of injectors that you will have to replace the stockers with? How much money they are?

How about this...we both post vid of how our fuel systems work in the mountains, and we can't post again until we post a vid. Sound fair? I have proof...you have none. I will go first, when you have vid, then you can post on Snowest again? You have been babbling about a fuel system for 2 years and have not showed anyone anything?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Zxthpva50
Ok here goes

 

[taylorbok]

WOW I am very shocked by the unprofessional traits so many are showing in this thread.

 

[supraturbo]

Oh boy..your back
You are like a bad cough I just can't shake.
I have a remedy for you....Simply stop to jump on other guys like you do all the time and let them express themselves and stop calling them stupid when they aren't sharing same opinions . AND since snowest is a payable service, guys from the east,midwest,out of the country are welcome on here so you and your buddy DUKE can stop babbling about this once and for all.
Ok I will bite, and I am sure you know the size of injectors that you will have to replace the stockers with? How much money they are?
No need to replace stocker up to a certain hp level(depend on the hardware you use) then a new set of injectors is 189$....

How about this...we both post vid of how our fuel systems work in the mountains, and we can't post again until we post a vid.
How old are you?? seriously...
Sound fair?
No it doesn't sound fair.Do you realy think Motec and Vipec(multi million $$ company) aren't sending out working standalone plug and play ECU ?
I have proof...you have none.
Better be carefull on that....it is simply not the timing for us to let go all information/video(marketing strategy)
I will go first, when you have vid, then you can post on Snowest again?
Do you realy think a home made video is all it takes....?
You have been babbling about a fuel system for 2 years and have not showed anyone anything?
Realy....!!go back to the thread you hijacked in the polaris pro ride section and whatch again the teaser video.....you know that little aluminum cased computer with vi-pec engraved on it , it is called a ECU and look at it carefully.it is not a mirage it is real,in fact if you want one i have one for you......2 years is a long time but we have a world class COMPLETE package.....we didn't borrowed 1985 technology from someone else and put our name on it like you did.Oh didn't i tell you we can modulate 2 staged injection MAP based exactly like you do with boost-it??? it is one of hundreds function we can do with a real standalone ECU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Zxthpva50
Ok here goes

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[NM]

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This is absolutely my last reply to you. I can't believe I am letting you drag me down where you dwell.
I will make you a deal. You find one post where I called some one stupid, and I will leave forever. If anyone can dig up a post where you called someone stupid than you leave? Sound fair? I'm not a big fan of someone misquoting me.