Just Give Peace a Chance
- Thread starter J-Fly
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Turn off your f*cking TV! You won't hear about the ones that come back to their families and integrate back into society on CNN.
Returning from Iraq doesn't mean you're going to be a murderer. What you said is called a "hasty generalization", a form of logical fallacy. Doesn't take an English major to see through that pile of crap.
I didnt mean "all" the soldiers the returned were doing these things. I know it is a small percentage, but i just cant believe that our soldiers would do something like this at all.
for all of you who dont believe in peaceful revolutions here is a big list of examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
and here is the next revolution. A mental revolution. No one can stop this
http://www.technocracy.org/Archives/A Mental Revolution-r.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
and here is the next revolution. A mental revolution. No one can stop this
http://www.technocracy.org/Archives/A Mental Revolution-r.htm
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What can't you believe? Our armed forces trains these men to survive and kill. While specialized training goes in there as well, those 2 are the basics. It's easy to train how to kill, it's quite another to do it and live with that fact. Some adjust quite well, others don't.
As has already been stated, ALL of them have earned any and all care required to help them adjust and reenter society.
I know quite a few of you have served in 1 form or another, if I'm in error on any of this, please correct me. I know speaking for myself, killing is the easy part, getting a decent night sleep afterwards is rough.
thats because your school is trying to brainwash you.
I now understand why my dad always told me to not believe anything I heard or read, and half of what I actually saw with my own eyes.
I knew there was a reason you were so lost. You actually believe this stuff.
Use YOUR head, not somebody else's. There are powerful, dangerous people out there who are jealous of what we had (before sheep like you) in this country. They know nothing except violence and will use it as often as they can to take from us what we have. They will kill their own families members in their quest for power. If you remember right we tried the peace approach before 9/11. Look what it got us, 2,740 dead Americans. Look what it got the people of Iraq. Millions of people brutally killed and dumped into mass graves by one of these dangerous people. In an effort to prevent the violence from spreading in their country, and to prevent him from bringing it to our country we went to war. The whole spill about GWB oil is more propaganda you read and believed. Had nothing to do with oil. It was always about protecting your rights to be stupid and spew the crap put in your head from reading some whack jobs view point and believing it.
As has been stated above, there will always be war. Revelations 12: 7. There was even war in heaven over the same thing we have wars over today, Power.
Thank goodness GWB was willing to go to war to protect our nation. Thank goodness before they needed a way to smear GWB ( in an attempt to get POWER ) a majority of dem's including BO supported the war. And once again, thank goodness GWB had the balls to do it so you still have the right to come on here and show us how naive a generation who has never had to fight for anything can be.
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Bkinz
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You seriously need to lay off the weed man! No it is because wikapedia is not a reliable source for information. An average joe can get on their and screw with the info, not saying it is all false information. But that it is not a guaranteed correct information on the site.
Its funny, your dad told you not to believe everything you read, but then you quote the bible like its fact. And you use the bible to defend war, you should be ashamed. The Bible i read goes against war. If you still believe George Bush's lies, i feel sorry for you, most people have realized the truth by now.
Bingo I never served but I have been told by my old man when he did, rifle training went something like this. Acquire target, identify target, eliminate target. To the best of my knowledge he never used that on a human(jet mechanic) but to this day that is how he views anything he sees down a gun barrel, be it paper targets, cans or critters(also why he doesn't care if it's a spike or a wall hanger).
I also know a few guys who did have to do the killing part, some dealt OK, another jumped off a building. Bottom line is, guys who need help should not be waiting on the VA to schedule them etc.
Now J-fly, what did ya think of my link.
and correct me if I'm wrong, but wiki isn't a scholarly source is it?
And you dont think anyone has screwed with the books you read at school. What about the people who control what you read in school.
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Bkinz
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They are called teachers. Ya they control what we learn, its not like they are brainwashing us though you numb nuts!
I believe it is because anyone can edit the information on wikipedia, making everything on their site suspect. If the information is suspect than it can not be cited as a source for FACTS. I commend you for actually trying to do some research...you are getting closer to being able to argue your point, even if it is pretty F'ed up.
J-Fly said:
You are asking someone to "fertilize the tree". One can only assume that you mean by killing himself, or he should "sign up to die" fighting for his country. That doesn't seem very peaceful to me. Practice what you preach bucko.
You dont care about Illegal Aliens in our country, and you also support every persons right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. What you are forgetting is that the Illegal is potentally in a job (lets say pizza delivery for fun) that a tax paying american CITIZEN, or even better, a LEGAL immigrant who pays taxes could be using to not just support their family or supplement their income, but also support their country by paying taxes. When that person snuck into this country they #1, broke the law. When they got a job under the table (because they can't legally work here) they #2, took a job from a CITIZEN as well as did not pay any taxes towards the country they "want" to live in to better their lives. Let me ask you...if you were at all thankful for living in someones house, wouldn't you want to repay them somehow? Anyhow, between point #1 and #2 an illegals "pursuit of happiness" is taking away from joe smith who wants to deliver pizza for some ding dong who owns half a pizza place because the owner can pay the illegal less and not worry about benefits or taxes. In the end, joe smith is rightfully angry because someone who is already breaking the law is now making the money he needed for his AMERICAN (tax paying) family.
In order to live in a country that affords you freedom of choice and protection from all enemies foreign and domestic (this includes the muslims who want to destroy our entire way of life) you have to give a little back for those offered to all legal citizens. To put it simply, the illegals want the benefits of being a citizen without having to be one.
you just described socialism. Who would regulate the redisribution of wealth...ahem, i mean natural resources? I'm pretty sure they tried redistributing wealth somewhere else before and it didn't work out so well....
I think you have a lot of noble ideas, but you are taking the human factor out of it.
If you can't understand that, you are a lost cause.
I'm off work for the day, see you f*ers later.
one last thing,
I think you read the wrong part of the bible...I was just reading in exodus where God commanded the isrealites into battle against those who still believed in their false gods. God was one vengeful...well...God in the early years. Anyways, after I get home I'll look up the passage for you.
I dont think you have the full perspective on what GWB told the public. Do some reasearch and you'll find that he is advised by a LOT of people on intelligence about various countrys. Since I am in Intel analyst in the AF, I'll give you what I can. The weapons were there, they found evidence of them and knew saddam had them from the start. He used them on the iranians and the kurds in the north. We gave them so much time before we went in, and had so much buildup on the southern border that they moved all the weapons out of country before we went in. You didn't hear about us finding the storage areas on CNN because it wasn't in their personal interest. Hell the terrorists still have old chemical weapons they are using in IEDs. I'd say more but alot of what I know on the subject is classified and I dont want to cross any lines.
I've been here 22 minutes longer than I should have J...you are now infringing my pursuit of happiness!
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