look who we are fighting,you cant have peace with those people.we should have had that place leveled 20mn after 9/11 before even setting foot in that country..have you guys read ted white and blue yet
NOW THATS AMERICAN
Just Give Peace a Chance
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why do arctic cats allways get the highmark?
Civil Rights Movement...Kings, not the Panthers. Oh and the whole Ghandi deal.
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WTF ARE YOU TALKING BOUT! Name one revolution that wasn't violent, and one that we have all heard of?
here are a bunch more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
Originally Posted by Bkinz View
WTF ARE YOU TALKING BOUT! Name one revolution that wasn't violent, and one that we have all heard of?
here are a bunch more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
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i'm wondering why there's corn in my poop.
Last time I had corn that I can remember was when I ate at qdoba last week, and I know that's outta my system by now. It usually does a number on me the next day.
Since the American public is too lazy to read up on Iraq,( they'd rather blame someone it's easier) heres my take. I wrote this some time ago and thought that maybe jr. here could maybe...maybe understand why we took Sadam out.
What most dont understand is the fact that the majority of Iraqies wanted Sadam gone.. they just wanted it done at the end of the gulf war. They had to suffer through the 90s.. starvation, one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world,(no medicine/supplies) murder on a scale we cannot imagine ect. How long do civilized people allow this to continue?
Dont be too harsh on the President. Everyone on the Intellegence commitee saw the same reports as the president. The CIA, MI6, the Mossad, French Intel., the Russian Intel. agencies all had those weapons there. It wasnt a stretch of the imagination either. Sadam used those weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. Given his secretive, psycopathic and murderous personality it wasnt a stretch at all.
There was also the matter of the sanctions. They were only hurting the people of Iraq. The poor had it much worse and the situation was desparate. Sadam was doing (Illegal) brisk business with the French,Chinese and Russians, sooo the sanctions had no effect on Sadam. Our so-called partners were scaming on cheap oil deals with Sadam on the backs of the Iraqi peoples.He had tankers of diesel going to Jordan,Syria and Lebanon that stretched for miles.
There was also the matter of Sadam playing chicken with our F-15s in the no-fly zone. He locked up and fired on our aircraft on a daily basis.
All of these were violations agreed upon after the gulf war and Sadam could care less. We looked like the villan because we enforced these sanctions and people of Iraq suffered.
Theres so much more to this story like the UN's food for oil scandle, Clinton had an operation which he killed in the last minute which had a coup talking Sadam out. Sadam put a hit out on President Bush Sr. Sadam DID entertain terrorists in Iraq. He was actively seeking nuclear materials.The torture chambers,the mass graves.. On and on. Weather or not it was time to liberate Iraq from a scum-bag like Sadam and his two lunatic boys...drag Iraq into the 21st century will be decided in history. If the Iraqis dont blow it they'll have a huge advantage over the rest of the countries in the region. With a un-sanctioned (or unsactionable) and healthy Sadam the region would have surely seen another conflict with dire consequences.
Jr. here takes a sadistic view of the Iraq situation. He would allow the people of Iraq to suffer until they ran out of ground to bury the corpses.
What most dont understand is the fact that the majority of Iraqies wanted Sadam gone.. they just wanted it done at the end of the gulf war. They had to suffer through the 90s.. starvation, one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world,(no medicine/supplies) murder on a scale we cannot imagine ect. How long do civilized people allow this to continue?
Dont be too harsh on the President. Everyone on the Intellegence commitee saw the same reports as the president. The CIA, MI6, the Mossad, French Intel., the Russian Intel. agencies all had those weapons there. It wasnt a stretch of the imagination either. Sadam used those weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds. Given his secretive, psycopathic and murderous personality it wasnt a stretch at all.
There was also the matter of the sanctions. They were only hurting the people of Iraq. The poor had it much worse and the situation was desparate. Sadam was doing (Illegal) brisk business with the French,Chinese and Russians, sooo the sanctions had no effect on Sadam. Our so-called partners were scaming on cheap oil deals with Sadam on the backs of the Iraqi peoples.He had tankers of diesel going to Jordan,Syria and Lebanon that stretched for miles.
There was also the matter of Sadam playing chicken with our F-15s in the no-fly zone. He locked up and fired on our aircraft on a daily basis.
All of these were violations agreed upon after the gulf war and Sadam could care less. We looked like the villan because we enforced these sanctions and people of Iraq suffered.
Theres so much more to this story like the UN's food for oil scandle, Clinton had an operation which he killed in the last minute which had a coup talking Sadam out. Sadam put a hit out on President Bush Sr. Sadam DID entertain terrorists in Iraq. He was actively seeking nuclear materials.The torture chambers,the mass graves.. On and on. Weather or not it was time to liberate Iraq from a scum-bag like Sadam and his two lunatic boys...drag Iraq into the 21st century will be decided in history. If the Iraqis dont blow it they'll have a huge advantage over the rest of the countries in the region. With a un-sanctioned (or unsactionable) and healthy Sadam the region would have surely seen another conflict with dire consequences.
Jr. here takes a sadistic view of the Iraq situation. He would allow the people of Iraq to suffer until they ran out of ground to bury the corpses.
It was a movement, not to be classified as a Revolution. Revolutions are historically violent.
While peace would be a very good thing, it is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain. People have been fighting amongst themselves for centuries going back to Biblical times. The Middle Easterners have been killing themselves and each other, including children over religion since then also. There is no stopping them as it is now ingrained into the children's tiny little brains since birth. Kill those who are American or who don't hold the same beliefs as you.
you can't discuss peace with a people that will saw your head off with a dull knife as soon as you walk thru the door. Unless you want to volunteer to be the peacemaker J-Fly? If so, then have at it
Jfly......
J-Fly has it ever dawned on you how much hatred you are stimulating by trying to parade your banner of peace? Your parade for peace has brought more hatred to this forum and into the hearts of more respectable people on this site than I have ever seen.
Please sign off and stay off. I'm sure you can find a site where you can promote peace without creating hatred. You will never be successful at doing it on a site full of people who really understand what it takes to have peace. You need to find a site full of people who are as sick and mixed up as you are, and it should be apparent by now we aren't it.
Good hunting and good luck on your mission of peace. Remember, we all want peace, we just happen to disagree on how we go about having it.
Please sign off and stay off. I'm sure you can find a site where you can promote peace without creating hatred. You will never be successful at doing it on a site full of people who really understand what it takes to have peace. You need to find a site full of people who are as sick and mixed up as you are, and it should be apparent by now we aren't it.
Good hunting and good luck on your mission of peace. Remember, we all want peace, we just happen to disagree on how we go about having it.
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I wasnt saying I'm smarter than everyone on here, cause if i did I would be lying. I was just trying to push J-flys buttons. No i havent been to a third world country yet, unless Canada counts. lol I just havent been fortunate enough to go see how bad other country's truely have it, and I would love the opportunity to go see it first hand. Instead of hearing about it all the time. And no i'm not like every other 14 yr old, maybe the majority, but not every one.
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Good for you J-fly that you live in a half a million dollar house with your girlfriend. That is great you can support a child, and still make enough to smoke your pot. But you need to watch yourself, first of all i aint a redneck. Second of all I would never kiss your arse, if anything you would be kissing mine. Sorry if i offended you, but your just a tool in my sense.
I don't think Mcfly is seeking peace, he started this thread and he replies to other threads in an effort to be inflammatory. Your response as well as all the others are exactly what he is seeking, turmoil not peace. Typical troll, the best thing to do would be ignore him.
When has there ever been world peace. As long as there are humans and tribes and borders and something the other guy wants there will be a fight. World peace will never happen. We are up against an enemy that will strap bombs to their kids and send them "home to Allah". I think that we are still too civil against our enemies. We either need to match the intensity (which as a civil society we won't strap bombs to our kids) or beat them with technology and brute force. To me it looks like the US and Canada are only partly fighting this war in the Middle East. I'm not saying that the fight isn't on and the people there aren't fighting. I just think we need to either pi$$ or get off the pot. Assemble the force required to go in there and get it done now instead of counting the dead from IED's and the like. Back the force up with the full compliment of naval and air support and get the job done. THere is no way that this war has to go on for so long. You won't win it if you don't go in full force.
This is just my opinion. I am not a war planner, a historian, retired military, police officer, peacenik or pot smoker. I mourn the losses that both of our countries have endured already.
This is just my opinion. I am not a war planner, a historian, retired military, police officer, peacenik or pot smoker. I mourn the losses that both of our countries have endured already.
wtf am I posting on this for?
Ok so I try to look @ both sides before making judgement, For the last 2 years I have tried to educate myself on the politics that I have hated for so long.
Unfortunatley war goes with politics & with this New World Order the soldiers that fight that war are only the pawns in a chess game between 2 rich men which caused the war in the first place.
I will never NOT support our troops & yes imho we do have the Best fighting force in the world, I just fear that the NWO is out to make us do their dirty work so they can get what they want all the while screwing us in the end. If you look @ some of the Bill's that elected crooks are trying to get passed you too would understand my fear.
Ok so I try to look @ both sides before making judgement, For the last 2 years I have tried to educate myself on the politics that I have hated for so long.
Unfortunatley war goes with politics & with this New World Order the soldiers that fight that war are only the pawns in a chess game between 2 rich men which caused the war in the first place.
I will never NOT support our troops & yes imho we do have the Best fighting force in the world, I just fear that the NWO is out to make us do their dirty work so they can get what they want all the while screwing us in the end. If you look @ some of the Bill's that elected crooks are trying to get passed you too would understand my fear.
Mule quoted my comment from months ago. I was not calling you an ******* redneck
I did not spur haterd. People already hate illegals, and liberals, and anyone that doesnt have the same stance. People would rather support war, than peace. War is hatred. I would rather come to this site and debate , than go to a site where everyone agrees with me. Not everyone on here wants peace. Most dont even think its possibe. What thread have you been reading.
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