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IS THE RECENT RISE IN ENFORCEMENT OF NEXUS TAX LAWS THE DEATH OF SNOWMOBILE SHOWS???

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I also believe that the internet should have to pay sales taxes. Make it an even playing field.

If the business has a physical presence in the state then they are obligated to collect sales tax for that state.

However most state tax returns have an area to include the tax for purchases made outside of the state that you are still responsible for, most people quickly skip that line.
 
If the business has a physical presence in the state then they are obligated to collect sales tax for that state.

That is the crazy thing.... establishing Nexus in a state does not require you to have a traditional "physical presence" in the state... Displaying at a Trade show, even for one day, can establish Nexus and from then on you as a business are obligated to pay sales tax to that state for and sales shipped to or sold in that state from that point on, regardless if you show again the following year.
 
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you folks are making it harder than it is. At the time of purchase just write an invoice and ask for the pertinant infor. city and state. than collect the tax. Then send in the tax.

and if charging sales tax ends snowshows, the snowshows where not that important.
 
Tim,

I'm probalby not doing a good job of communicating.

It is NOT about collecting sales tax AT the shows. It is about charging tax on ANY sales made to that state and the back tax obligation to that state from the date that the Nexus was established.

I'm talking about sales made NOT AT THE SHOW in addition to sales made/delivered at the show. After a business returns to their home state and sells any item to a customer in a state where, through participation in a trade show, they have have

Some business are on the hook for years of back taxes on all sales made to a state where they established Nexus by displaying at the trade show....even when they collected and sent in tax for sales made AT the snowshow.
 
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It shouldn't be but how well will you defend yourself after the IRS seizes all your assets for back charges and penalties. The Governments are to big and out of hand. A local town around here tried to pass a weed tax until a old guy sent them a bill for 5 year of mowing there weeds and they discovered they where the biggest offender. All I'm saying is nothing makes sense anymore. I think I would bankrupt the company and start a new one doing it right.



First off, this is the Washington State Dept of Revenue NOT the IRS. As a former business owner in the state of Washington, I can tell you that the IRS is a walk in the park to deal with than is the Washington State Dept of Revenue. Loan Sharks charge less penalities and interest and are easier to deal with.


The other thing to remember is you can NOT file bankruptcy on taxes!!!
 
The other thing to remember is you can NOT file bankruptcy on taxes!!!

But I believe if you are an LLC etc.. you can close your doors and roll up the carpet and fold the business with bankruptcy without personal financial loss.

I may be wrong on this though.
 
But I believe if you are an LLC etc.. you can close your doors and roll up the carpet and fold the business with bankruptcy without personal financial loss.

I may be wrong on this though.

That is correct. Sometimes there are extenuating issues, but correct for the most part.
 
I spoke with a local collector car accessory mfg about NEXUS... he has been hit because of attending car shows and trade shows in WA and UT. Washington is hitting him for over $63,000.
 
Here in Colorado, we have a use tax. It is levied on the use of the personal property purchased. If you don't pay sales tax, on most personal property or the use thereof, the use tax is substituted for the sales tax that would have been paid to your home jurisdiction (city, county) in a taxed retail transaction. The state also collects some use taxes eg vehicles, rentals and such.
Alternatively, the sales tax is considered levied on the transaction. Therefore, its conceivable that the state might come after the purchaser, as well as the vendor.

Use tax on most items is supposed to be collected from the purchaser by the purchaser fessing up that they bought goods without paying sales tax. Easiest way for the consumer to stay out of trouble is just send some money to each sales taxing entity each year.
Of course, the easiest enforcement is to go after the vendor for the sales tax instead of waiting for the consumer to report their own sales or use tax liability. If all the Amazon customers were paying their Colorado sales or use tax, Amazon wouldn't have "left" Colorado.
 
Taxes are taxes If the guy sold car asccesory somewhere any where, and paid no taxes on it and got caught then he needs to pay them if they are a taxable item no matter what state he's in. He must have sold a bunch to be liable for that much.
 
I think the problem mountainhorse is seeing is that people were unaware of these laws and taxes and not filing them properly and now are going to be facing heavy penalties
 
That is a big part of it.

But also, by presenting at a show in many states and establishing Nexus... ALL sales to that state after that date... weather by Internet or phone etc and shipped to that state, will require charging the customer that states sales tax and also filing taxes with that state.

If you did not show in that state and establish nexus... you would NOT be required to charge or pay sales tax on items shipped to that state.
 
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MH is this by chance coming out of Utah? Because they got me for 8K 10 or 12 years back . I cant recall what that deal was I remember thinking it was BS but ended up paying the bill.
 
Washington, Utah, California, Idaho, Wyo and Mt seem to be the ones in the west with the most agressive Nexus regs.
 
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But I believe if you are an LLC etc.. you can close your doors and roll up the carpet and fold the business with bankruptcy without personal financial loss.

I may be wrong on this though.


Not on taxes...period. Anyone who is an officer in the company can/will be responsible...period.

Been there done that! So there was no reason to file bankruptcy since our only outstanding bills were taxes.

BTW...this looks like it might end up in the Supreme Court. I sure hope it does. Like I said, Wa state Dept of Revenue are EVEAL Bastards.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/27381.html
 
Nexus.... I have a hypothetical question..... What if the business has its "mortar and bricks" in Washington, with a distrubution center in Idaho.... Which tax do you impose????
 
trestlecreek... This is my understanding... you have to collect and pay taxes in Washington for all Washington sales. For Idaho sales... you would have to collect Idaho taxes.

If you display, for example, at a Utah SnowShow.. you have to pay Utah taxes...for ALL sales made to that state after the date that you first had a trade show "presence" in that state... the same NEXUS tax regulations apply if you have a trade show display in most states.
 
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After looking into it further with their accountant and speaking with fellow vendors that are being "stung" by Wa State... Skinz Protective Gear (SPG) has cancelled their West Coast show circuit, in which they had already rented booth space, including Puyallup and SLC for the sole reason of Nexus laws and its financial implications for the business.

They just did not want the hassles.












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After looking into it further with their accountant and speaking with fellow vendors that are being "stung" by Wa State... Skinz Protective Gear (SPG) has cancelled their West Coast show circuit, in which they had already rented booth space, including Puyallup and SLC for the sole reason of Nexus laws and its financial implications for the business.

They just did not want the hassles.












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Sad.
 
It is sad... they were already signed up with booth space for the Salt Lake City/SnoWest show and the Puyallup show.









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