How to make a 600 quicker other than Buying an 800

[sumtinwong]

lots of rants and no help to the OP.! snorex I would try some clutch work { helix, springs, weights} try carls or indy dan both are knowledgeable and happy to help meet your needs!! you would be surprised what it will do for you. and for the gear down well that's your pref. I love the powder and next to never go in a strait line so I have no need to be geared over 85 or 90 and I like to be geared down {hade a 700 geared at 78 mph and loved it} truth is when im on the trails I rarely crack 60mph most of the time im going 35-50mph any way if you aren't willing to do the 660 kit try it.
good luck on your venture

 

[mtncat1]

just reading this makes me wish i had less power , there are so many time i have found i just had to much power , thanks guy's

 

[sledhead_79]

just reading this makes me wish i had less power , there are so many time i have found i just had to much power , thanks guy's

Just trying to get my point across that there is nothing wrong with a 600. I’d be surprised if these members that are saying trade it in for an 800 has actually spent time on a 600. The OP was asking for a cheap modification and here’s everyone throwing expensive thoughts at him. A sled that is perfectly fine that is probably half paid off; hey I got a great idea, trade it in and go more in debt cause your 600 sucks! By no means am I a pro at riding, best mechanic out there, or a financial advisor, but these answers don’t add up that are being given. I’m glad to see input on the gear down since I myself would like to hear more, but a whole new sled, get real!

 

[goridedoo]

Nothing wrong with a 600. If you are mostly riding at low elevation you will go EVERYWHERE your buddy does.

No need to upgrade to an 800 right away. A gear down should help big time with your low and mid range. Not sure what gearing comes factory on that sled but if its the same as the 800 just get some gears off a 13-15 RMK. Much cheaper than a gear down kit. I would also get a can and call it good.

 

[jim]

I have a hard time agreeing with all the arguments that a 600 will stick with or beat an 800. Yes, if the rider of the 800 is poor and the rider on the 600 is stellar, that can be the case. But in any conditions on any mountain, the 600 will not compare with the 800. It is a simple power to weight ratio thing. If a person is not riding the full potential of a 800, yes the 600 might compare...but they typically don't.

Now this guy is wanting more power...he is obviously riding the 600 to its full potential. Yes, he can mod it and throw money away...but the best answer here is to upgrade to a more powerful sled with more HP. And it's not just the top HP that factors here...the torque, when the motor gets on the pipe, etc. all lend themselves to more potential even if not at full throttle. It's just simple numbers. There is a reason sled classes are displacement based...because it is the primary influencer on performance.

 

[volcano buster]

Make sure your clutching is spot on.

 

[Escmanaze]

irresponsible

Sorry guys, but it would be irresponsible for me to just answer the OP's question directly. If my 8 year old kid comes and says "Dad, which bike should I ride to try a backflip off of Billy's jump" I'm not just gonna say "uh, the green one."

His question has implications and if we disagree strongly with those implications, then we feel responsible to tell him that.

So on that topic, I have an 800 Axys and my dad has a 600 pro. I've also ridden lots of 800 pros. With experience on both, and with what I see on the used market all the time, I really really really think you would be best served to just sell the 600 and get an 800. Somebody out there (like my dad) will be very happy with the 600. If you aren't, and you want more power, then your money is most certainly best spent just upgrading sleds.

I know that's not the question you asked, but that is still the answer I'm giving.

 

[BlowinSmoke]

I myself purchased 2 16' hold overs last year. One was for my wife who switched from an 800 pro to the 600 axys and the other i put nearly 400 mountain miles on. That means little to no trail miles in Western Montana.

On my wife's 600 I installed the following mods and truly believe it's the best bang for your buck. Mod 1 is the gear down kit. Mod 2 was blue/pink primary spring, black purple secondary spring, and a split cut helix depending on your elevation. Mod 3 was an SLP silencer for lightweight and good sound.

Now keep in mind this sled is still no 800 axys on the hill but let me reassure you if your an aggressive rider that little 600 will crush egos all winter long. She has become so much more of a confident aggressive rider now and goes nearly every place all the folks riding 800s.

As for me, yes I ride an 800 turbo pro and feel I'm also above the average rider who uses the sled for its potential. By no means am I saying I'm professional so don't twist that around please. My point being the big 800 is a torque monster and really rips, yet at the end of the day I tend to get tired riding it. You will notice a difference in rotational mass between 600cc and 800cc in my opinion. So I found myself getting on the 600. Yes, I had to standup, ride harder, have confidence and commit when choosing a line but I was have a lot of fun. I realized taking the 600 when everyone else preferred the 800 was more of challenge for me. I found myself actually become a better rider because I wasn't relying on HP to get me places it was my technique. Soon I found myself pulling technical tree lines and hills that other in the group couldn't on a bigger sled.

So in the end it really comes down to what your after. More power which compensates for less abilities or a lighter, nibble, less powered machine that in the end gets you to all those same places but put a much larger smile on your face. I hope this little rant of mine helps.

Happy sled season to all and stay safe...Cheers

 

[dennisdragonsnow]

Don't forget about the most important thing w a 600 FUEL Economy all the 800 need to bring extra fuel Can along w weight penalty my 600 runs all day w the 800 and end day they are empty and refilling and I'm still riding all way bak to truck w fuel to spare. Same hills same lines all day. It's the rider ability not the sled. Throw burandt on a 600 and he will rock that sled all day long!! U don't need power u need skills keep practicing and embarrass all ur buddys on that 600
They will ask u. Hey can I ride that??

 

[x498206]

Anyone try a turbo on the 600?

I'm running a Silber turbo on my 600 and am happy with it other than the first trip of getting the clutching right. It definitely has more power than the stock 800.

 

[FatDogX]

Don't forget about the most important thing w a 600 FUEL Economy all the 800 need to bring extra fuel Can along w weight penalty my 600 runs all day w the 800 and end day they are empty and refilling and I'm still riding all way bak to truck w fuel to spare. Same hills same lines all day. It's the rider ability not the sled. Throw burandt on a 600 and he will rock that sled all day long!! U don't need power u need skills keep practicing and embarrass all ur buddys on that 600
They will ask u. Hey can I ride that??

So.......your drawing a comparison to a pro rider that probably spends at least 100 days a year on a sled to a normal guy and his normal buddies???? I think we're missing the point of the original post.

 

[KFSNOW]

My wife has a 14 pro 600 we did a few mods and she love s the sled my buddies on the 800's can't believe she gets where she does. The mods include high compression head by Indy Specialties who also balanced the clutch, we added a SLP silencer, Kurt's Polaris Gear down kit and clutch setup. Sled runs great and it has 5K miles on and has ran great.

 

[xmk1080]

The bottom line is that a good rider one a 600 is not going to go where a good rider on a 800 is going to go, its just not possible. Would you rather spend your money on a 600 or 800 in aftermarket parts? And as far as fuel consumption the axys 800 does really good compared to the old 800's. Yes its fun to stick a 600 in places that 800's are going but that also means that you are a better rider. I would save your money for a 800 unless you are bound and determined to make that 600 run

 

[meathooker]

Don't forget about the most important thing w a 600 FUEL Economy all the 800 need to bring extra fuel Can along w weight penalty my 600 runs all day w the 800 and end day they are empty and refilling and I'm still riding all way bak to truck w fuel to spare. Same hills same lines all day. It's the rider ability not the sled. Throw burandt on a 600 and he will rock that sled all day long!! U don't need power u need skills keep practicing and embarrass all ur buddys on that 600
They will ask u. Hey can I ride that??

When I had a 600 pro I’d run out of fuel before the 800’s. Always assumed it’s becuase you’re wot all the time. I think I ran out at 42miles one time.

 

[Timberview01]

More fuel on the fire...

I had a '11 Pro 800 with 163" track. Bought a '15 Pro 600 155" for the wife (now ex...) and ended up riding the 600 more because I had way more fun on it. Traded the 800 for a dirt bike and track kit because it sat in the shop.

Now, to be 100% realistic, a 600 155" will NEVER go straight up a hill like an 800 163". NEVER. So that is not really the argument here.

I had MORE FUN on the 600 partially due to the lighter feel and partly because of the more rigid chassis. My main riding partner is on an 800 163" and I go all of the same places on my bone stock 600. I might take a different line, but I always make it. On the 600 the tighter, steeper terrain is less intimidating because I can ride that sled better than I ever could on the 800. Is that because of the 200 less cc's? Probably not, but that sled just flat out performs. Being someone who is less than a quarter as talented as a Burandt class rider, the smaller sled takes me less energy to ride aggressively. At the end of the day, that accounts for a lot towards enjoying the ride.

Everyone has their own opinion, but I will say that I was VERY surprised at the capabilities of that 600 and am more than happy to unload it and head up the hill with all of my buddies on 800's and 850's.

Oh, and I found that my fuel consumption is slightly more than what it was on the 800. I attribute that to taking more lines and trying things that I would not have on the 800 versus going more or less straight up.